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Plan for Pac-12 becoming a real conference again

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.

    It's a good start.

    The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
    Every conference loses coaches.

    But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.

    2009/2014 comparison
    UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement
    WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement
    OSU: Riley/Riley: same
    UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline
    Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline
    Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline
    UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement
    USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash
    Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement
    ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement

    So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.

    But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.

    Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
    The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.

    Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.
    No.

    But the rest of CFB is worse.
    Then why is the Pac-12's playoff hope fading in the first week of October?

    I don't think the Pac's playoff hopes are fading. Whoever wins the conference is a near lock to make the playoffs if they have 2 or fewer losses.

    It is true that the conference is weaker at the top but I think its deeper. Only Stanford and USC could challenge Oregon 3-4 years ago.

    If the conference has regressed its not due to coaching. I would look at recruiting first. Too many top Cali recruits committing to Oklahoma or SEC schools.
    Chip is gone, that's why Oregon is being challenged now.


    And because Arizona, WSU and UCLA (next week) are no longer complete pushovers.
    No, because Oregon is average now.


    2011 final Sagarin ratings:

    UO- 2nd

    Arizona- 64th
    UCLA- 66th
    WSU- 83rd


    2014 prior to this week:
    UO- 3rd

    UCLA- 6th
    Arizona- 34th
    WSU- 53rd.
    Sagarin SUCKS, especially early in the season.

    Then bring something else to the table other than shit opinions.

    Any ranking system you can find will show the same thing: there were a number of extremely shitty teams in the Pac 3+ years ago. Arizona, ASU, UCLA, WSU...all improved massively.
    Protip: There are 10 shitty teams in the Pac-12 RIGHT NOW.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614

    Also, 2011 Oregon would beat 2014 Oregon by 50 points. Because Chip Kelly.

  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,019 Founders Club
    Metrics can suck hope solo's dick
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,019 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    People in this thread forget that Louisville and Notre Dame are ACC teams now. Notre Dame won the Pac-12 South last year you know.

    It's still a shitty conference.
    So is the Pac-12. Hope this helps.
    That's why I said college football sucks. I don't think Mark Emmert being president and the product being shit is coincidental. Even your beloved SEC sucks compared to 5 years ago.
    Emmert is a yes man. A politician's mindset if I ever saw it.

    My plan for improving the product would be to kick out 40 or so teams, institute some form of promotion/relegation to prevent poor performing programs from being complacent, and ban OOC scheduling with lower divisions. I would also like to see a 16 team playoff, or eliminate the playoff completely and go back to just bowl games. The 4 team playoff is horse shit.
    I fixed the problem five years ago.
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