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Plan for Pac-12 becoming a real conference again

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    People in this thread forget that Louisville and Notre Dame are ACC teams now. Notre Dame won the Pac-12 South last year you know.

    Notre Shame plays five games, but they aren't really a member.
    Notre Dame only played three Pac-12 games last year but still won the South Division.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    People in this thread forget that Louisville and Notre Dame are ACC teams now. Notre Dame won the Pac-12 South last year you know.

    It's still a shitty conference.
    So is the Pac-12. Hope this helps.
    That's why I said college football sucks. I don't think Mark Emmert being president and the product being shit is coincidental. Even your beloved SEC sucks compared to 5 years ago.
    But how was he a bad president?????
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,703 Founders Club
    College football doesn't suck

    HTH
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    College football doesn't suck

    HTH

    Having the Egg Bowl decide a playoff spot is like having Butler in the final four though.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    College football doesn't suck

    HTH

    Having the Egg Bowl decide a playoff spot is like having Butler in the final four though.
    LIPO

    I still don't think the Egg Bowel winner will be in the playoff. Nor the loser.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    College football doesn't suck

    HTH

    Having the Egg Bowl decide a playoff spot is like having Butler in the final four though.
    LIPO

    I still don't think the Egg Bowel winner will be in the playoff. Nor the loser.
    I'm all for LIPO. Auburn looking like the team to beat right now.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    PurpleJ said:

    Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.

    It's a good start.

    The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
    Every conference loses coaches.

    But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.

    2009/2014 comparison
    UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement
    WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement
    OSU: Riley/Riley: same
    UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline
    Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline
    Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline
    UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement
    USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash
    Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement
    ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement

    So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.

    But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.

    Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    PurpleJ said:

    Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.

    It's a good start.

    The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
    Every conference loses coaches.

    But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.

    2009/2014 comparison
    UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement
    WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement
    OSU: Riley/Riley: same
    UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline
    Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline
    Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline
    UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement
    USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash
    Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement
    ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement

    So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.

    But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.

    Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
    yryk except you underrate the improvement from Neu to Mora

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    PurpleJ said:

    Bring back Chip and Harbaugh. Get a real coach at USC.

    It's a good start.

    The coaching drain is speaking volumes.
    Every conference loses coaches.

    But the Pac has made some of the best hires in the nation the last few years. Overall the level of coaching is much improved from 3-6 years ago.

    2009/2014 comparison
    UW: Sark/Pete: huge improvement
    WSU: Wulff/Leach: huge improvement
    OSU: Riley/Riley: same
    UO: Chip/Helfrich: big decline
    Cal: Tedford/Dykes: small decline
    Stanford: Harbaugh/Shaw: big decline
    UCLA: Neuheisel/Mora: small improvement
    USC: Kiffin/Sark: wash
    Arizona: Stoops/RichRod: huge improvement
    ASU: Erickson/Graham: small improvement

    So yes the two programs that have carried the flag recently lost their elite coaches and attempted to go back to the same mold but couldn't replicate whatever element made Harbaugh and Chip winners.

    But five other schools made very good hires. And after a disastrous first season Dykes has Cal playing much better in year two.

    Finally- LOL USC ever and always.
    The net total of an upgrade using your scoring is +1.5.

    Considering the fucking dreck the conference added in Colorado and Utah, it's not better off overall than it was five years ago.