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what im hearing re: p12 network/tv contract/boofs bouncin
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“Scoop City” … pardon me if I have my doubts on the reliability of this source.
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Until SportBoner confirms it, it doesn't mean anything.TheHB said:“Scoop City” … pardon me if I have my doubts on the reliability of this source.
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So FSU finally secretly broke their iron clad contract with the ACC after months and months of trying to wiggle away and only Scoop City figured it out? Cool. Can’t wait GifAtomicDawg said:
I would think they would add unc before Clemson.JaWarrenJaHooker said:
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Along with Arizona123 not sure there is a more reliable source on the World Wide Web around these parts.AtomicDawg said:
Until SportBoner confirms it, it doesn't mean anything.TheHB said:“Scoop City” … pardon me if I have my doubts on the reliability of this source.
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
Mountain West announces they’re dropping Mountain from their name. -
I want to see SDSU notify the WAC that they are, indeed, leaving the conference on July 1, 2024.46XiJCAB said: -
Arizona is the other shoe that needs to drop.TheHB said:“Scoop City” … pardon me if I have my doubts on the reliability of this source.
And really this points to what has been reported for 6+ months, that no one trusts Washington and Oregon to remain committed to the idea of a Pac 12. If the guaranteed Playoff money wasn't on the table, this all happens months ago. -
They got an ESPN contract. P12 thought we could get more. P12 was wrong.haie said:
Yormark is a snake oil salesman.huskyhooligan said:
He kind of nails it.
Kind of wild in B12 twitter. The number of fans from teams that have sub .500 all time records, and teams whose majority of wins are from the WAC, MWC, MAC, Conference USA, and American Athletic Conference is kind of astounding to witness. I witnessed a Kansas fan literally tweet that they are good again. They went 6-7 last year. I don't think any of the remaining teams are .500 or better against Power 5 competition.
He kept their conference together. Just without the only 2 schools worth more than 2 Sven bucks.
They got ESPN! Just at less than half the B1G/SEC and chained to ESPN+ (It still has ESPN in the name!).
They're playing a basketball game in New York! They're a "power basketball conference!".
Nevermind that basketball makes nothing outside of 2 weeks a year.
Why it's taken so long to even poach 1 4 corners school. And it was the worst Pac team, and a team that came from that conference, and a team desperate to pay their new coach.
Their schools mostly suck but THEY HAVE A CONTRACT. -
It's a better option than the Mountain West, and UW wouldn't be banished to strraming, but really the whole Big 12 "victory" is just a bunch of fluff lords like TCU and Houston, etc bending the knee to ESPN+.whlinder said:
They got an ESPN contract. P12 thought we could get more. P12 was wrong.haie said:
Yormark is a snake oil salesman.huskyhooligan said:
He kind of nails it.
Kind of wild in B12 twitter. The number of fans from teams that have sub .500 all time records, and teams whose majority of wins are from the WAC, MWC, MAC, Conference USA, and American Athletic Conference is kind of astounding to witness. I witnessed a Kansas fan literally tweet that they are good again. They went 6-7 last year. I don't think any of the remaining teams are .500 or better against Power 5 competition.
He kept their conference together. Just without the only 2 schools worth more than 2 Sven bucks.
They got ESPN! Just at less than half the B1G/SEC and chained to ESPN+ (It still has ESPN in the name!).
They're playing a basketball game in New York! They're a "power basketball conference!".
Nevermind that basketball makes nothing outside of 2 weeks a year.
Why it's taken so long to even poach 1 4 corners school. And it was the worst Pac team, and a team that came from that conference, and a team desperate to pay their new coach.
Their schools mostly suck but THEY HAVE A CONTRACT.
Which legitimately sucks for them. Their toothless fans haven't realized what's coming because they're too busy dancing on the Pac 12's grave.
They don't have a UW or Oregon. Still.
They have BYU which...I mean.... -
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going out like a G?Baseman said:
More like going out like Cobain. -
fluid situation is not so much fluid anymore update:
- 'around $20mm a school'
- all streaming on apple
- couldn't get linear partner cause would have to give up too much on exclusive streaming rights
- still could get linear partner for 'primetime games' but that will take time
- allegedly, and i dont know if this was being sarktastic, but uw on the phone with big 10 willing to take a reduced share (rutgers did this, you happy now sandra?), no idea if that happens. eventually, uw will be in the big 10, big 10 commish didnt want to look like a predator (which is really out of character for schools in that conference) and poach but will happily pick scraps from the dead 12.
- also allegedly, zona/zona state/utah b12 bound
- i also saw something that clempsun and free shoes u were trying to get out of their grant of rights in the ACC, thats gonna be like $80mm, doubt that happens. the acc will eventually collapse, just needs more time to get its grant of rights out of there
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Amazing how the deal went from $300m in June to $200m in Julyrodmansrage said:it goes without saying, this 'tv deal' thing has been handled pretty shitty, here what im hearin though:
- espn and fox have taken deals off the table. they originally had been bidding for a saturday day game and saturday night game, they've taken those off the table as of the past week or past two weeks.
- p12/10 is now trying to get cbs or nbc to offer packages for those games. p12/10 wants $150mm for those games.
- p12 network is going to go either to apple tv or amazon, it will be a $300mm package. previous poast i said 'its going apple,' somethings changed with me.
- if, and that's a huge fucking IF especially for the linear tv games, that will put the payout higher for the p10 than the b12. that will 'put all member schools at ease,' allegedly.
- colorado has been a willing participant in media negotiations, they have 'gone dark' in the past week so this:
that is real, to an extent, as i dont know about wildcats but i know boofs are talking to the big 12.
- colorado will 'come back to the table' if those tv packages are offered
- colorado 'needs something by august' as they dont want to go into the season with each press conference having questions about 'well what about the b12' and 'when are you going to the b12?'
- the 'final offers' are supposed to be in by 'end of june' but that announcement was supposed to happen in march so who fucking knows.
take all the screenshots you need. -
whatshouldicareabout said:
Amazing how the deal went from $300m in June to $200m in Julyrodmansrage said:it goes without saying, this 'tv deal' thing has been handled pretty shitty, here what im hearin though:
- espn and fox have taken deals off the table. they originally had been bidding for a saturday day game and saturday night game, they've taken those off the table as of the past week or past two weeks.
- p12/10 is now trying to get cbs or nbc to offer packages for those games. p12/10 wants $150mm for those games.
- p12 network is going to go either to apple tv or amazon, it will be a $300mm package. previous poast i said 'its going apple,' somethings changed with me.
- if, and that's a huge fucking IF especially for the linear tv games, that will put the payout higher for the p10 than the b12. that will 'put all member schools at ease,' allegedly.
- colorado has been a willing participant in media negotiations, they have 'gone dark' in the past week so this:
that is real, to an extent, as i dont know about wildcats but i know boofs are talking to the big 12.
- colorado will 'come back to the table' if those tv packages are offered
- colorado 'needs something by august' as they dont want to go into the season with each press conference having questions about 'well what about the b12' and 'when are you going to the b12?'
- the 'final offers' are supposed to be in by 'end of june' but that announcement was supposed to happen in march so who fucking knows.
take all the screenshots you need.
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ITS BECAUSE BIDEN CANT GET THIS FUCKIN INFLATION UNDER CONTROL!
in all seriousness, this is a really fucked up situation -
someone that is good at economy, is this bad? -
Just wait until Kalashnikov gets his SDSU and SMU guysms in there!rodmansrage said:
someone that is good at economy, is this bad? -
If the new additions are indeed getting a half share as Ive heard, then at 1 million subscribers, which I think is about what they can expect, the 9 remaining schools in the league would make 24.7 million per school. That should make the four corner exodus an easy financial choice for them. If the four corner schools do depart the pot is bigger for the 6 west coast holdovers. Six new G5 schools at half share, redistributed to the coastal schools brings in 31.9 million for UW, UO, WSU, OSU, Cal and Stanford. If the scales are indeed tipped to UW and Oregon as I've heard then those two would make 37.7 million per year if the other four agreed to 29 million. If Ore/WA really turned the screws I'm sure the other four would go lower on their share for a locked in five year guarantee. 28 million share puts UW at 39.7 , 27 gets them up to 41.7. That said, kill the deal with fire. It's suicide. Tulane, Colorado State, SDSU, SMU and two more teams from such greats as Boise, UNLV, Fresno, Rice or Air Force don't move my needle no matter how much money is shoved under UW's nose to stay. I'm sure Cauce and Jen will probably jump at the chance to keep rubbing elbows with Stanford even if they have to share a dip with Fresno.rodmansrage said:
someone that is good at economy, is this bad? -
I would love to hear the upper campos explanation as to how slumming it with Tulane, Colorado State, UNLV, Boise, etc is in alignment with UW's alleged academic prowess, but going to the Big 12 would not be.theknowledge said:
If the new additions are indeed getting a half share as Ive heard, then at 1 million subscribers, which I think is about what they can expect, the 9 remaining schools in the league would make 24.7 million per school. That should make the four corner exodus an easy financial choice for them. If the four corner schools do depart the pot is bigger for the 6 west coast holdovers. Six new G5 schools at half share, redistributed to the coastal schools brings in 31.9 million for UW, UO, WSU, OSU, Cal and Stanford. If the scales are indeed tipped to UW and Oregon as I've heard then those two would make 37.7 million per year if the other four agreed to 29 million. If Ore/WA really turned the screws I'm sure the other four would go lower on their share for a locked in five year guarantee. 28 million share puts UW at 39.7 , 27 gets them up to 41.7. That said, kill the deal with fire. It's suicide. Tulane, Colorado State, SDSU, SMU and two more teams from such greats as Boise, UNLV, Fresno, Rice or Air Force don't move my needle no matter how much money is shoved under UW's nose to stay. I'm sure Cauce and Jen will probably jump at the chance to keep rubbing elbows with Stanford even if they have to share a dip with Fresno.rodmansrage said:
someone that is good at economy, is this bad?
What a dumpster fire conference that would be. -
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Finally having an Oregon alum as the Prez of Northwestern starts to come in handy.FecalFeast said: -
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Georgie fumbling the bag was the best outcome for UW.
tbh, the bag didn’t really exist but still, we? gone.
partial rev share isn’t ideal but new big 10 deal up end of this decade. -
Just popped in to congratulate the Big 10 on taking the high road in conference realignment and not being predatory. They tried to crush the Big 12 by taking Nebraska, put the screws to the Big East and ACC (Rutgers/NYC & Maryland/DC), and for the coup de grace fucked the Pac 10 in the ass by taking the LA market after making an alliance with them. Most Game of Thrones characters were less duplicitous then these a-holes. -
Mostly classy ass fucking of the PAC.Mitch_Cumsteen said:
Just popped in to congratulate the Big 10 on taking the high road in conference realignment and not being predatory. They tried to crush the Big 12 by taking Nebraska, put the screws to the Big East and ACC (Rutgers/NYC & Maryland/DC), and for the coup de grace fucked the Pac 10 in the ass by taking the LA market after making an alliance with them. Most Game of Thrones characters were less duplicitous then these a-holes. -
Man no shit. Well said.Mitch_Cumsteen said:
Just popped in to congratulate the Big 10 on taking the high road in conference realignment and not being predatory. They tried to crush the Big 12 by taking Nebraska, put the screws to the Big East and ACC (Rutgers/NYC & Maryland/DC), and for the coup de grace fucked the Pac 10 in the ass by taking the LA market after making an alliance with them. Most Game of Thrones characters were less duplicitous then these a-holes. -
All wrapped up in a sweet innocent midwestern accent. Don't ya knowMitch_Cumsteen said:
Just popped in to congratulate the Big 10 on taking the high road in conference realignment and not being predatory. They tried to crush the Big 12 by taking Nebraska, put the screws to the Big East and ACC (Rutgers/NYC & Maryland/DC), and for the coup de grace fucked the Pac 10 in the ass by taking the LA market after making an alliance with them. Most Game of Thrones characters were less duplicitous then these a-holes. -
I like to think of them as a classy Italian mobster in Chicago during the prohibition era. More appropriate.whlinder said:
All wrapped up in a sweet innocent midwestern accent. Don't ya knowMitch_Cumsteen said:
Just popped in to congratulate the Big 10 on taking the high road in conference realignment and not being predatory. They tried to crush the Big 12 by taking Nebraska, put the screws to the Big East and ACC (Rutgers/NYC & Maryland/DC), and for the coup de grace fucked the Pac 10 in the ass by taking the LA market after making an alliance with them. Most Game of Thrones characters were less duplicitous then these a-holes.
