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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,141 Standard Supporter
    Amazing what having a wide open path to a championship will do for getting people to tune in. As much as people laud dynasties, nobody outside of the winning team's fanbase wants to watch the same team win every year. Basketball has had that problem for a long time.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,680 Founders Club
    But the LeBron dynasty versus the Warrior dynasty was the most watched
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
    Denver's starting 5 is just a 'glide to a championship' lineup.

    They probably should already have a ring right after they got Gordon.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    edited May 2023
    haie said:

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
    Denver's starting 5 is just a 'glide to a championship' lineup.

    They probably should already have a ring right after they got Gordon.
    Their 2nd best player hadn’t played in the playoffs with Gordon until 5 weeks ago.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
    Denver's starting 5 is just a 'glide to a championship' lineup.

    They probably should already have a ring right after they got Gordon.
    Their 2nd best player hadn’t played in the playoffs with Gordon until 5 weeks ago.
    Yeah, they've been injured. It's been a roster constructed well enough to win a championship.

    Maybe Malone sucks. He did get cucked by Terry Stotts.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    edited May 2023
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
    Denver's starting 5 is just a 'glide to a championship' lineup.

    They probably should already have a ring right after they got Gordon.
    Their 2nd best player hadn’t played in the playoffs with Gordon until 5 weeks ago.
    Yeah, they've been injured. It's been a roster constructed well enough to win a championship.

    Maybe Malone sucks. He did get cucked by Terry Stotts.
    What team in the nba is winning a title without their second (and third) best players?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Embiid is vastly over rated. Harden is done. Doc still can't coach

    All are true

    Embiid had a great season, but I agree. Centers aren't as important as they used to be. Jokic is a different because of his passing. He is also better than Embiid at everything else on offense and is easily the most efficient player in the NBA.

    The 76ers made the right move firing Doc. He's always been an overrated coach.
    Denver's starting 5 is just a 'glide to a championship' lineup.

    They probably should already have a ring right after they got Gordon.
    Their 2nd best player hadn’t played in the playoffs with Gordon until 5 weeks ago.
    Yeah, they've been injured. It's been a roster constructed well enough to win a championship.

    Maybe Malone sucks. He did get cucked by Terry Stotts.
    What team in the nba is winning a title without their second (and third) best players?
    What part of "they've been injured" did you not understand? Even with that, made the conference finals a few years ago and lost to the eventual champions in what was essentially the finals that year.

    Losing to Portland and getting swept by Phoenix are the main question marks with them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,680 Founders Club
    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Only caught glimpses of the game as the Throbber was out knocking back copious amounts of Guinness with his homies. Argued about transgender rights and drag queens reading to kids (TTTTT, I know).

    Jokic is the fucking man. Has to be the best playmaking big man of all-tim (Sorry having @haie in my life for Blazer legend Bill Walton). Joker makes every old man YMCA noon baller spring wood. Old skool.

    Lakers need to blow Nugs out in Game 3 or its over.



  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,141 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    edited May 2023
    Agree with @haie. Consensus is Porter is their 3rd best player but I think it’s AG. Great glue guy, guards the other team’s best player, knows his role
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005
    Celtics are fucked.

    Miami is clicking.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
    No idea. Maybe have to trade Simons and possibly include Sharpe. Even then where is your depth going to come from. Not familiar with the cap situation because they've overspent and been beyond fucked there for years but maybe they have some now with the contracts they offloaded last year.

    Pretty much it's back to Dame begging some goodish guys to in FA and hoping he can carry them and not get injured. Grant is expected to be kind of a star and he hasn't been. He needs to be amazing. Done with Nurk, they need to trade for a center that is actually going to defend and not get in foul trouble consistently. The Beavlet is a okay backup I guess.

    Thybulle feels like the only intelligent acquisition they've made in years.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913




    Not bad for a guy as old as I am. AD acted like a man last night

    I'm sticking with the @MikeSeaver reverse jinx. Nuggets in 6
    We truly need a lol button here.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    The guys playing instead of Herro have been a plus on both sides of the ball. Losing Herro was the best thing that could have happened to this team.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
    If they had more than 2 peas under their twig, they would be trading Dame Lillard. The stars lined up one year to allow the Blazers to make the WCF one year with him. And Dame more or less disappeared in the Game 7 which got them there, only to be swept the next round.

    Dame will never win a Natty in Portland. And Portland will never win a Natty with Dame.

    Time for both to move on. Despite @haie not being able to spill his shitty IPA, when Logo Lillard makes another meaningless 3.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited May 2023
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
    Porter’s back will always be trouble. He could still average 25 for a shitty team. If he never had the back problems he would be incredible.

    He’s relegated to being just a shooter, but he is a very good one that is 6’10.” There is a reason he got a max contract.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited May 2023
    Calvin Booth is Denver’s GM. He was the shittiest free agent signing after Jim McIlvene for the Sonics.

    He should win GM of the year. Bruce Brown was a great free agent signing. He’s a great role player and couldn’t have picked a better team to sign with. KCP was a good pick up too. Jokic makes everyone on the team so much better and is the best player in the NBA.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,656 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
    If they had more than 2 peas under their twig, they would be trading Dame Lillard. The stars lined up one year to allow the Blazers to make the WCF one year with him. And Dame more or less disappeared in the Game 7 which got them there, only to be swept the next round.

    Dame will never win a Natty in Portland. And Portland will never win a Natty with Dame.

    Time for both to move on. Despite @haie not being able to spill his shitty IPA, when Logo Lillard makes another meaningless 3.
    It was hazy pale ales tonight actually.

    I don't care if they trade Dame.

    But knowing Portland's place in the NBA they won't trade him, he has to force his way out and I don't even think he wants to leave. He's said as much. Being the 2nd or 3rd option on a contender compared to what he makes here isn't appealing to him.

    I could see some pre-retirement stint with the Warriors. He's never cared about going to LA or NY.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Teams are 56 - 6 up 2-0

    2 of the 6 are LeBron

    But its over. Jocich and Murray are better than AD and LeBron at this point

    Soul crushing loss last night

    Don't see them even having a close series with Boston or Miami.

    They're put together about as good as you can be. Even with Porter kind of being a bitch. Gordon was the get that Portland needed. As proven by that 2021 series that got Stotts fired.
    The Dame/Aaron Gordon combo would have been lethal in the play-in round.
    Portland made the WCF with fucking Enes Kanter.

    Getting Gordon and fleecing someone for CJ could have made them a pretty good contender with Simons filling in for CJ. They would have needed someone tougher/more serviceable than what Nurk has turned into.

    Jeremy Grant has been a disaster 'bro' play. He's overrated which is why he's been on a shit ton of teams already.
    What do you think Portland does this summer? Bridges/Claxton from bkn for simons, #3, and a future pick seems like a no brainer. But I’m sure Portland will fuck it up
    Porter’s back will always be trouble. He could still average 25 for a shitty team. If he never had the back problems he would be incredible.

    He’s relegated to being just a shooter, but he is a very good one that is 6’10.” There is a reason he got a max contract.
    Great rebounder as well