If you don’t think AI will kill us all

PurpleThrobber said:

I’ve been demoing some software packages lately. Hadn't looked at anything for about a year. Got led down the ChatGP rabbit hole in the process.

Incredible how far things have come in a short time. Watched a session where a senior accounting person essentially turned the ChatBot into a first year staff person in about a hour. The learning curve on these machines is amazing and they don't have a know it all attitude like the Millenials/GenZers.

@creepycoug is correct - the low level grunts in any profession are going to get picked off first. If I was a bookkeeper or paralegal, I'd learn how to drive an excavator or build an OnlyFans page. They are toast. And toast like 5 years or less toast. Their only saving grace is partners in law and accounting firms are old and slow to change their ways so there will be a few stragglers. But once the upper level folks start bragging to one another about how much money they are saving, it's over.

Hell, I'm old enough to remember when financial statements were typed up by the secretary - and there were shitloads of secretaries who didn't know shit about accounting, they just knew how to type. Legal matters were conducted by dictaphone and yellow pad. There was no such thing as word processing or spreadsheets.

More senior people will just have their underlings deal with the AIBots and then ride off into the sunset.

The people who should be shitting bricks are the ones in their late 30s/early 40's who've already paid their dues with grunt work but aren't quite old enough to think about retiring. They'll be next on the chopping block. Once the bots perfect the low level shit, their learning will logically move up to the next level of work.

(It was Bobby Knight who coined the 'lay back and enjoy it' phrase, BTW).

This, especially the bragging about saved money. While Race and the other hippies are protesting down in the lobby, fat ugly lawyers smoking cigars will be laffing counting up dollar bills, unaware that they are participating in their children's demise. Race will be right, again.

Yes, on the Bobby Knight. Thank you. I should not forget that.

PS: I remember when my law firm had an entire Word Processing Center. There must've been twenty or more people in their typing up briefs and contracts. Word Perfect was a better word processing application, but it was too complicated for the lawyers. We also had a "copy center". Another 10 or more "professionals" working there.

No mas.

RaceBannon said:

I'm wondering if the diseases actually came from my Vikings who beat Spain to America rather easily. They visited around the time that the plague had come to Europe from China

I think they were up around Newfoundland and BFE, Canada.

They did beat the Spanish/Portuguese heathens by quite a bit. Didnt stick around for long, though.

I dont think the Viking aids ever made it down to Central Mejico, or even @Swaye

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.

WestlinnDuck said:

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.

Im hearing the ChatGPT Visigoths are tanned, rested, and ready.

The Western American empire grew decadent and might fall, but the Eastern American Empire, headquarted in Constantinople, will exist for another thousand years.

























CHRIST

Sledog said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.

The vax took care of the birthrate. It wasn't bug it was a feature.

People are having less babies as income and development increases

You don't need 50 kids to help out on the frontier farm anymore

RaceBannon said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

You guys worry too much...

UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet

The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.

Your generation is exactly what @Doogles is talking about. Too cool for school as we used to say. Why worry?

Because you have no grasp of history or human nature. Keep scrolling bro. UBI needs someone to pay into it. Who would that be?

There is no reason to keep a large population that does nothing that you need to pay. You're actually giving credence to the theory that your masters want to trim 81% of the world population.

@Doogles is dialed in on deep fakes and the general destruction of society

Good luck the rest of the way

I had a good run. I doubt you will because you want to leave it in the hands of folks who don't give a shit about you

I know I do.

WestlinnDuck said:

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.

Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?

creepycoug said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.

Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?

Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competition

Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.

Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.

WestlinnDuck said:

creepycoug said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.

Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?

All empires are doomed. But they are doomed for a reason. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” When you won't defend yourself, but rely on other to defend you, then at some point there is going to be a fail. We are deep into the bread and circus phase with tens of millions bought off and unable to take care of themselves, let along family and country. A nation of dazzlers, mello and AOG can't stand.

That's basically my point. One argument for Rome's fall was it tried to be too much, and the expansion to the east killed "real Rome." Who the fuck really knows. When they were at their best, they were off conquering and building an economy that exploited the resources of the empire as far as it stretched. Rather than scorched earth, they converted the locals to the Roman way and convinced them of the bennies of being a Roman citizen, a status which they freely conferred to those whom they just bent over. This lead of course to a standard of living previously unimagined in the ancient world.

I guess what I'm saying is that it's a parallel to us and our system of economy. Whether a public company reporting to Wall Street or a PE play answering to its limited partners, you are never done growing and expanding and creating value. You can't grow a company into profitability and say, "Ok, that's enough. It's sustainable. We're stopping here." America is great because of private property and the freedom to do well and the demand in our system that to succeed you have to create value. There is nothing in the soil, divine provenance is a stupid notion, and we don't have a better gene pool ... it's just those things. We adopted the British idea of capitalism, pumped it full of steroids consisting of the natural resources and undeveloped markets of the new world, and other shit I don't understand, and were lucky enough to devise a political system that helped all that along. Now we have yet another example of American ingenuity and value creation. The car displaced all the people connected with horses and carriages, the lamplighter lost his job with electricity, etc. etc.

When is too much too much? Nobody really knows. But human beings are never going to say no to anything that makes life easier.

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Sounds grim

Channeling your inner mello isn't quite the statement you seem to think it is.