If you don’t think AI will kill us all
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The great alliance of the Russians, Chinese, and robots finally brought down the American Empire!!WestlinnDuck said:
Channeling your inner mello isn't quite the statement you seem to think it is.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sounds grim
Dont forgot to check beneath your bed for ChatGPT tonight -
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians.
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Notable expert on everything heard from.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians.
I don't think anyone is suggesting the world is ending, but to argue that the US will endure forever is asinine. Regardless of whatever you consider complacency to mean -
My take is that the expansion spread them too thin, including by administration. Rome as an empire didn't work with two emperors. Rome in its last stages, the real Rome, had become a second class citizen to Rome East. It was a bridge too far and they blew their wad in establishing Constantinople as the other Rome. It was destined to fail.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians. -
We seem to be channeling some bad Roman Emperors. Having a dementia patient as president seems to bear a resemblance to a horse as a Roman Consul.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians. -
I know you're being sarcastic, but that's Istanbulcreepycoug said:
My take is that the expansion spread them too thin, including by administration. Rome as an empire didn't work with two emperors. Rome in its last stages, the real Rome, had become a second class citizen to Rome East. It was a bridge too far and they blew their wad in establishing Constantinople as the other Rome. It was destined to fail.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians. -
Aliens scare me more than AI. Tuff to beat the hive mind fleet that appears on the edge of the solarsystemSources said:
Notable expert on everything heard from.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If every Roman Emperor was similar to Augustus, we'd still be living in Romecreepycoug said:
And try to expand the empire into the east as far as they did.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
Conquest wasnt the problem IMO. Or the administration.
They definitely got complacent.
Despite the Tug's doom and gloom, America and friends remain lightyears ahead of the fucking Chinese and Russians.
I don't think anyone is suggesting the world is ending, but to argue that the US will endure forever is asinine. Regardless of whatever you consider complacency to mean
We can't know the future, but the hypotheticals about AI are funny.
Society has markedly improved in damn near every way over the last 100 years of vast technological innovation.
The Tug wouldve been bitching about horse breeders losing their jobs at Henry Ford, and it wouldve been bitching about OSHA laws limiting children in the coal mines. How can the mines remain profitable?!?!?!?!
Society evolves.
You guys are like the climate kooks thinking the world will be underwater unless we go vegan. Just on the other end of the spectrum.
Also - no one here knows shit about fuck. Aint an expert in sight. Which is why its fun -
Doesn't help when you give away all your war fighting equipment either.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either. -
Been the case for 50 years, but better late than never.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
People are having less babies as income and development increasesSledog said:
The vax took care of the birthrate. It wasn't bug it was a feature.PostGameOrangeSlices said:You guys worry too much...
UBI is a lot more likley than Skynet
The machines wont need to do population control anyways. Births are down across the globe.
You don't need 50 kids to help out on the frontier farm anymore -
The US has given Ukraine lots of older artillery equipment, old Bradleys, and old AbramsSledog said:
Doesn't help when you give away all your war fighting equipment either.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Rome was also complacent and didnt have better military tech than the competitioncreepycoug said:
Rome was always going to fall. If it wasn't that (and I'm not sure it was entirely or mostly that), it would have been something else. Rome was born of high stakes betrayal. Romulus killed Remus over an argument about where to begin the building of Rome. Even at its very beginning, one brother killed another to hold @Swaye over Rome. The city was constantly ebbing and flowing for the better and for the worse over political rivalry and skulduggery. Rome was doomed from the start. But what a fucking empire it was, eh?WestlinnDuck said:Rome had an idle population and how did that work out? At the end they didn't have the will to defend themselves. Sounds familiar. We will pay money we don't have to defend a border 4600 miles away, but won't even pretend to defend our own southern border. Then we are happy to provide bread and circuses to the invaders. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. If you won't work to earn a living but expect someone else to provide for you, you aren't living, you are just existing.
Legions were great. Then everyone else caught up.
Doesn't help when you have dozens of civil wars all the time, either.
All of these models are scheduled to be replaced.
The thing that matters most if you are the United States is the Air Force and the Navy. These are the real teeth of the military. There is no peer to the F-22 or the F-35.
Many military experts believe the F-16 is better than anything Russia can field, and especially China.
Additionally, the naval equipment is vastly superior. The US has over a dozen carrier groups. China sort of has 1, and Russia can't even take their dilapidated POS out to sea.
The only thing China has that is at all decent is their anti-ship missles. No one knows how good those are and how well a carrier group with submarine support would do against them. And we will more than 99.99% likely never find out.
The US does not want to invade Russia or China, so who really gives a shit about artillery? The US will be fine and can produce shells at a decent clip if needed.
Tldr, the Air Force and Navy is the real imperial force. Not the javelin infantry launcher or some old ass humvees
