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Caleb Presley, 2023 4* CB (Eastside Catholic) (COMMITTED)

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    Savell Smalls had zero sacks as a senior and played on a defense that got shredded, but he was supposedly still elite.
    I continue to forget he's on our team. I don't think I've ever seen a 5 star come in and everyone just immediately accept that he's mediocre. Usually there's some flashes or hope for guys like that to figure it out. But with Smalls it's painfully obvious to everyone that he possesses no elite tools and has the natural talent indistinguishable from someone who plays for Montana State.
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,331 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    @ntxduck, my favorite Duck... Et tu, Brute? No love for a BTP copypasta?

    I fetters-fingered it. That copy pasta is an auto-chin from me
    Huh?
  • 79smoothdawg79smoothdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 715 Swaye's Wigwam

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    Savell Smalls had zero sacks as a senior and played on a defense that got shredded, but he was supposedly still elite.
    I continue to forget he's on our team. I don't think I've ever seen a 5 star come in and everyone just immediately accept that he's mediocre. Usually there's some flashes or hope for guys like that to figure it out. But with Smalls it's painfully obvious to everyone that he possesses no elite tools and has the natural talent indistinguishable from someone who plays for Montana State.
    I was watching him against the cougs and he does nothing but complain about holding. He looked fat and slow. He will never be a starter screen shot it.
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,778 Standard Supporter

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    Savell Smalls had zero sacks as a senior and played on a defense that got shredded, but he was supposedly still elite.
    I continue to forget he's on our team. I don't think I've ever seen a 5 star come in and everyone just immediately accept that he's mediocre. Usually there's some flashes or hope for guys like that to figure it out. But with Smalls it's painfully obvious to everyone that he possesses no elite tools and has the natural talent indistinguishable from someone who plays for Montana State.
    I was watching him against the cougs and he does nothing but complain about holding. He looked fat and slow. He will never be a starter screen shot it.
    I saw the same. “Why is that end not getting any push?” He definitely looked fat and slow.
  • KrunkJuiceKrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,060

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    Savell Smalls had zero sacks as a senior and played on a defense that got shredded, but he was supposedly still elite.
    I continue to forget he's on our team. I don't think I've ever seen a 5 star come in and everyone just immediately accept that he's mediocre. Usually there's some flashes or hope for guys like that to figure it out. But with Smalls it's painfully obvious to everyone that he possesses no elite tools and has the natural talent indistinguishable from someone who plays for Montana State.
    If Trice leaves, I'll be interested to see who our DE/edge guys end up being. Schmidt got a lot out of Trice and Martin this year. I absolutely hated the offer to Heims and chalked it up as lazy recruiting but the guy looked way more explosive than Smalls when he played. Maybe ZTF comes back and is fully healthy but I'll be very surprised if Smalls ever makes an impact.
    There is a decent chance Trice and ZTF leave. If that we're the case we are gonna need at least 2 guys in the portal. Heims, Smalls and Holtzclaw isn't close to being good enough.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    And

    Martin ended up a Husky.

    Tryon also sucked in HS until his senior year.

    Savell Smalls had zero sacks as a senior and played on a defense that got shredded, but he was supposedly still elite.
    I continue to forget he's on our team. I don't think I've ever seen a 5 star come in and everyone just immediately accept that he's mediocre. Usually there's some flashes or hope for guys like that to figure it out. But with Smalls it's painfully obvious to everyone that he possesses no elite tools and has the natural talent indistinguishable from someone who plays for Montana State.
    If Trice leaves, I'll be interested to see who our DE/edge guys end up being. Schmidt got a lot out of Trice and Martin this year. I absolutely hated the offer to Heims and chalked it up as lazy recruiting but the guy looked way more explosive than Smalls when he played. Maybe ZTF comes back and is fully healthy but I'll be very surprised if Smalls ever makes an impact.
    Heims is a star in the making. Sadly I’m not sure there are any other EDGE guys I can say that about. I don’t think ZTF is sticking around, feels destined for the portal, Trice is almost assuredly going to the draft. BUTT HOW WILL WE REPLACE LITTLETON AND FEENEY??
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,905 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    He almost left last year then ended up not being a starter. There could be a world where that didn’t sit well with him. He’d be the guy next year on a competitive team. Not sure why you’d leave but you just never know.
  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,689 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    He almost left last year then ended up not being a starter. There could be a world where that didn’t sit well with him. He’d be the guy next year on a competitive team. Not sure why you’d leave but you just never know.
    Because sometimes kids are just stupid
  • DawgDaze71DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    ZTF success during the Covid season went to his head a bit too quickly. He started daydreaming about the NFL despite his glaring weakness on run support and setting the edge. Then the Achilles. I think he could look at options but I think he’s in a good spot to play more snaps next season after holding up. He may feel more comfortable carrying a bit more weight. I think he got a bit too light.

    Winning cures many ailments I’m leaning more towards a good send off for Zulu Tango Foxtrot
  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,861 Standard Supporter

    ZTF success during the Covid season went to his head a bit too quickly. He started daydreaming about the NFL despite his glaring weakness on run support and setting the edge. Then the Achilles. I think he could look at options but I think he’s in a good spot to play more snaps next season after holding up. He may feel more comfortable carrying a bit more weight. I think he got a bit too light.

    Winning cures many ailments I’m leaning more towards a good send off for Zulu Tango Foxtrot

    True, he and Trice would start if they came back and Heims would be the #1 guy off the bench with Holzclaw and Smalls for depth. They will probably target a transfer too.

    Smalls dominated when younger but then he stopped growing but his reputation preceded him with regards to recruiting. Now he has the size to play DE but not the athleticism. But he doesn't have the size to play inside so he's kind of stuck and will never be a starter. If he can have a good / last off-season, he may have a chance to contribute while finishing up his degree. That would be great all-around.
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792
    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    Lost tons of weight, doesn’t seem like he fits EDGE or OLB at this size. Plus he went from superstar to backup, that’s a rough fall. I bet he looks for a fresh start. Hope I’m wrong.
    He lost so much weight that he couldn't be trusted to be put in on any run downs. He was exclusively used on 3rd and long. While he was still easily our best pass rusher when on the field, that's going to limit his options for playing time anywhere
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,905 Founders Club
    NEsnake12 said:

    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    Lost tons of weight, doesn’t seem like he fits EDGE or OLB at this size. Plus he went from superstar to backup, that’s a rough fall. I bet he looks for a fresh start. Hope I’m wrong.
    He lost so much weight that he couldn't be trusted to be put in on any run downs. He was exclusively used on 3rd and long. While he was still easily our best pass rusher when on the field, that's going to limit his options for playing time anywhere
    IF he stays and IF his Achilles can take the strain he needs to get back up to 260. He needs that thick backside again. I felt like his ample booty was like a buoy that kept him on his feet when he bent the edge.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam

    NEsnake12 said:

    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    Lost tons of weight, doesn’t seem like he fits EDGE or OLB at this size. Plus he went from superstar to backup, that’s a rough fall. I bet he looks for a fresh start. Hope I’m wrong.
    He lost so much weight that he couldn't be trusted to be put in on any run downs. He was exclusively used on 3rd and long. While he was still easily our best pass rusher when on the field, that's going to limit his options for playing time anywhere
    IF he stays and IF his Achilles can take the strain he needs to get back up to 260. He needs that thick backside again. I felt like his ample booty was like a buoy that kept him on his feet when he bent the edge.
    If he transfers, he'll have the same issues he has here which is dealing with run support and setting the edge. His best future is one where he stays here given how well Martin and Trice played this season
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,041 Swaye's Wigwam

    NEsnake12 said:

    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    Lost tons of weight, doesn’t seem like he fits EDGE or OLB at this size. Plus he went from superstar to backup, that’s a rough fall. I bet he looks for a fresh start. Hope I’m wrong.
    He lost so much weight that he couldn't be trusted to be put in on any run downs. He was exclusively used on 3rd and long. While he was still easily our best pass rusher when on the field, that's going to limit his options for playing time anywhere
    IF he stays and IF his Achilles can take the strain he needs to get back up to 260. He needs that thick backside again. I felt like his ample booty was like a buoy that kept him on his feet when he bent the edge.
    He was just as fast as 265+ as he was at this weight too.
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,905 Founders Club

    NEsnake12 said:

    dnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Why ZTF destined for portal?

    Lost tons of weight, doesn’t seem like he fits EDGE or OLB at this size. Plus he went from superstar to backup, that’s a rough fall. I bet he looks for a fresh start. Hope I’m wrong.
    He lost so much weight that he couldn't be trusted to be put in on any run downs. He was exclusively used on 3rd and long. While he was still easily our best pass rusher when on the field, that's going to limit his options for playing time anywhere
    IF he stays and IF his Achilles can take the strain he needs to get back up to 260. He needs that thick backside again. I felt like his ample booty was like a buoy that kept him on his feet when he bent the edge.
    If he transfers, he'll have the same issues he has here which is dealing with run support and setting the edge. His best future is one where he stays here given how well Martin and Trice played this season
    Easier to set the edge at 260 than 245. If his body can handle the weight, put it on. Chuck is right, He was explosive at 265.
  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,331 Swaye's Wigwam
    Smalls was crooted by Bama at ILB. Maybe he loses 15-20 and becomes a Lester Towns sized MIKE🤷‍♂️
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