Question for the people here over 40
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No. A few kids who everyone knew were closet cases but no one cared. It’s been 25 years but I don’t recall those people being singled out or picked on or whatever.
Probably different in the social media age but in the 90s we just really didn’t give a shit about that stuff. No one was running around the halls in HS in a drag outfit yelling about how their rights were being violated because they couldn’t take their wiener into the girls lockeroom. -
So it’s a condition?HHusky said:Caitlyn Jenner is a bit over 40.
You seriously believe there are no 40+ year olds who are desperately unhappy because of this condition and/or have made the change?
Sled was beating homosexuals bloody in the 70s. ('Cuz he's a real man.)
I wonder why people with this condition weren't just shouting about it from the rooftops "back in the day". -
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.SFGbob said:Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell. -
Honestly dude, these "stories" of yours.Sledog said:In my day, late 70's, we had one known fag. I previously mentioned a guy that had a hard on in the locker room shower. He was beaten into a bloody pulp by those present. They were not the same person.
If true rumble fish, anybody who would assault someone in those circumstances is classically repressing something. You position yourself as a champion of liberty and self-determination, but really you're the biggest Nazi statist on the board. You are 100% Joe McCarthy and don't even see it. -
Disagree. It happened. I wasn't there. What did you want me to do about it? I was relating a story on the question asked. Lighten up kitty cat!creepycoug said:
Honestly dude, these "stories" of yours.Sledog said:In my day, late 70's, we had one known fag. I previously mentioned a guy that had a hard on in the locker room shower. He was beaten into a bloody pulp by those present. They were not the same person.
If true rumble fish, anybody who would assault someone in those circumstances is classically repressing something. You position yourself as a champion of liberty and self-determination, but really you're the biggest Nazi statist on the board. You are 100% Joe McCarthy and don't even see it. -
There was one homo in high school. 1500-1600 enrollment. He wasn't out of the closet officially, but we all knew. He got some shit, but nothing severe. In my first month, King 5 was doing pieces on stabbings in the locker room, so there were other things to be worried about.
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Some, but very few, are legit. For many, it's a trendy fad filling gaping holes in their sad, confused, unfulfilling, socially-inept teen lives. Prior generations understood teen years were a fucking bitch to get through, but the trophies for all kids can't stand it and need an excuse, which the always-recruiting Trans movement is happier than an Amway rep to provide.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.SFGbob said:Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.
This former Trans dude (i.e., woman) gives up the Gospel truth in this outstanding interview.
https://youtu.be/5HbPzJy9gkY -
As a kid we would have lunch with my mom's college friend who lived with her female friend. They both had real short hair
The folks never acted like it was any kind of thing.
Olympia was progressive unlike Aberdeen
We may have had a gay kid at school. Don't know
Cross dressing was the trans of the 60s -
Your tacit support of such actions speak loudly and clearly about your views. Own it or not tuffy.Sledog said:
Disagree. It happened. I wasn't there. What did you want me to do about it? I was relating a story on the question asked. Lighten up kitty cat!creepycoug said:
Honestly dude, these "stories" of yours.Sledog said:In my day, late 70's, we had one known fag. I previously mentioned a guy that had a hard on in the locker room shower. He was beaten into a bloody pulp by those present. They were not the same person.
If true rumble fish, anybody who would assault someone in those circumstances is classically repressing something. You position yourself as a champion of liberty and self-determination, but really you're the biggest Nazi statist on the board. You are 100% Joe McCarthy and don't even see it. -
Intersex people exist biologically, I actually know more than 1.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.SFGbob said:Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.
They are the first to admit they are unicorns.
It's the conflation of people that want to cross dress with actual trans people that is odd.
Then you get into the battle of "are there biological differences in sex" thing which ironically the people advocating that it's all socially constructed also saying that people were born that way. I think it's because "the gays" were so successful in gaining acceptance by arguing it was biology not choice.
Most of us, I think, can agree that there are biological differences in sex, which drive most, but not all, gender differences. There's a tiny subset of people who might have some of that mixed up but they will be the first to tell you there are biological differences between genders.
If it isn't biological, then it's socially constructed, and if it's socially constructed, then yes, it's grooming when you teach it to children.
I'm sure this post will trigger @TheKobeStopper





