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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,219
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    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    The Throbber has absolutely no issue with foreign peoples entering the United States.

    Legally.

    Bum rushing the gate doesn't mean you get to stay in the stadium and listen to the concert like those who have a ticket.

    *and now the proper response is "Like Jan 6th?"

    The paradox between the view foreigners from other lands hold of the U.S. and the pampered little Portland Antifa Cucks was extremely telling to my kid.
    Wait until @TheKobeStopper gets his own trust fund dollars in there.

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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,780
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    One of those things used to be the peaceful transfer of power.
    Yes. Because walking through open doors, opened for demonstrators by Capitol Police, is extremely violent in your world HH.

    But that's just because you're a wimpy faggot.
    You’ll excuse anything.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/two-arrested-in-assault-on-police-officer-brian-d-sicknick-who-died-after-jan-6-capitol-riot/2021/03/15/80261550-84ff-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https://s2.washingtonpost.com/car-ln-tr/30bc358/604f84ee9d2fda4c880c5ba7/597691d49bbc0f6826b7c35c/23/70/604f84ee9d2fda4c880c5ba7
    So are you officially retracting the lie that Sicknick was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher?

    See you lie about everything, and there's this old fable called "The Boy who Cried Wolf" that sort of predisposes a person to be skeptical of liars, see.
    Mostly peaceful chemical assault.
    I'm gonna laugh my ass off when their Antifa roots are revealed.
    All the gals who get their news from OAN, InfoWars or the John Birch Society will be laughing.

    The dazzler only needs CNN. Four years of swallowing a Russian collusion hoax was all our supposed counselor needed and then he goes and gives out legal advice to clients.
    Insufficient evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is just like exoneration.
    Not the standard in an impeachment trial, stupid.

    Malpractice much?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,780
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    RoadTrip said:

    Tequilla said:

    It’s amazing the large % of our country that doesn’t understand why Maher is spot on

    We’ve built a culture full of why we can’t do something instead of dreaming up ways on how to do something

    His joke about "infrastructure week" was spot on. So many of this country's greatest engineering/technological achievements were either directly run by the gubmint or bankrolled by it. We don't build cool shit anymore. We? should be on a crash course right now to build like 200 to 300 new nuclear power plants in the US. Just fucking do it. Instead we let the retards find ways to prevent us from doing what is needed.
    I like that you and GRG are expressing your frustration but both of you tend to be on the more liberal side of the equation (even though you deny that YS) so why are either of you surprised that government is fucking up our country?
    I'm a libtard, human scum by Tug FS standards. IRL I'm objectively a center-right moderate.

    Government has been fucking up this country since 1789. It's an age old tradition.
    Not like the last 20 years.

    Don't be going all MelloDawg on us.
    It's true that our fuck ups on nation building in the M.E. and opening our markets to China - both of which were bi-partisan - were historically bad, even by US standards.

    The shift from petrodollars to social media dollars has changed the nation by putting socially-retarded nerds in too many places of influence.

    I prefer the simple sociopathic greed of the prior eras, where government and the press acted as a brake on unhealthy wealth and power accumulation. Today, truly retarded minds are running the show and Silicon Valley wealth is exponentially greater than that accumulated by dealing with hostile Middle East Arab Regimes and chemical companies polluting the Gulf.

    With the media, the DNC and Silicon Valley wealth all in alliance, we're pretty much a Soviet Republic at this point.

    And that thrills losers like TKS and HH.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,368
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    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Tequilla said:

    It’s amazing the large % of our country that doesn’t understand why Maher is spot on

    We’ve built a culture full of why we can’t do something instead of dreaming up ways on how to do something

    His joke about "infrastructure week" was spot on. So many of this country's greatest engineering/technological achievements were either directly run by the gubmint or bankrolled by it. We don't build cool shit anymore. We? should be on a crash course right now to build like 200 to 300 new nuclear power plants in the US. Just fucking do it. Instead we let the retards find ways to prevent us from doing what is needed.
    I like that you and GRG are expressing your frustration but both of you tend to be on the more liberal side of the equation (even though you deny that YS) so why are either of you surprised that government is fucking up our country?
    I'm a libtard, human scum by Tug FS standards. IRL I'm objectively a center-right moderate.

    Government has been fucking up this country since 1789. It's an age old tradition.
    I don't denigrate you for being whatever form of liberal you are. Hell half of my best friends are but some of them are finally seeing what I've seen my entire life. Those who aren't are benefitting from the government in some way shape or form.
    Thanks for not denigrating me!!
    IWDYB
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    CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
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    Scarves up, Motherfuckers!!!
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,565
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    as I get older I realize more and more that there really is not a difference between the dems and repubs - our freebie shit gets bounced around a lit different but foreign policy is run by the same people and really doesn't matter who is elected. Proof: Trump removes troops from Syria, Generals say FU and they stay in Syria.

    Maher is politically correct and gives hell to both sides but appeases the left more. big deal

    China wins in the end and millions of folks will poor across our southern border. big deal

    This morning I started to watch the news and they were doing a traffic report from China on a dust storm - we have already lost.

    I will die before they really screw it up
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    jecornel said:

    The idea of eliminating higher learning for the gifted and smart because it’s exclusionary absolutely fucking crazy.

    Or turning it into a lottery system is absolutely INSANE.

    I’d be really interested in hearing the reasoning of those that want to eliminate

    I suspect it’s a lot of belief behind those that are gifted and smart are such because of being born into a silver spoon with advantages that others don’t have so it’s just right sizing the opportunity gap
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    One of those things used to be the peaceful transfer of power.
    Yes. Because walking through open doors, opened for demonstrators by Capitol Police, is extremely violent in your world HH.

    But that's just because you're a wimpy faggot.
    You’ll excuse anything.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/two-arrested-in-assault-on-police-officer-brian-d-sicknick-who-died-after-jan-6-capitol-riot/2021/03/15/80261550-84ff-11eb-bfdf-4d36dab83a6d_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https://s2.washingtonpost.com/car-ln-tr/30bc358/604f84ee9d2fda4c880c5ba7/597691d49bbc0f6826b7c35c/23/70/604f84ee9d2fda4c880c5ba7
    So are you officially retracting the lie that Sicknick was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher?

    See you lie about everything, and there's this old fable called "The Boy who Cried Wolf" that sort of predisposes a person to be skeptical of liars, see.
    Mostly peaceful chemical assault.
    I'm gonna laugh my ass off when their Antifa roots are revealed.
    All the gals who get their news from OAN, InfoWars or the John Birch Society will be laughing.

    The dazzler only needs CNN. Four years of swallowing a Russian collusion hoax was all our supposed counselor needed and then he goes and gives out legal advice to clients.
    Insufficient evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is just like exoneration.
    Not the standard in an impeachment trial, stupid.

    Malpractice much?
    Mueller wasn't telling Congress it couldn't impeach.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,267
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    Tequilla said:

    jecornel said:

    The idea of eliminating higher learning for the gifted and smart because it’s exclusionary absolutely fucking crazy.

    Or turning it into a lottery system is absolutely INSANE.

    I’d be really interested in hearing the reasoning of those that want to eliminate

    I suspect it’s a lot of belief behind those that are gifted and smart are such because of being born into a silver spoon with advantages that others don’t have so it’s just right sizing the opportunity gap
    That's it. If you stand out, you get hammered. Or as some gifted Canadian rock band once said,

    And the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe, and saw
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.

    We? are a silly people, but somehow it always seems to work out where we are still better off than everyone else. Maybe our luck continues and maybe not. Either way it will be interesting.

    China has numerous strengths and a shit ton of weaknesses.
    Immigrants see and seize opportunities that abound in the U.S., while too many kids born here spend their lives learning how to hate their country and society at the feet of communist, race-baiting teachers and privileged, dumb parents who should've never bred.
    Do you see the glass half full or half empty?

    Seemingly everywhere else in the world America is viewed as the land of opportunity.

    Anybody that has done any amount of travel not only within our country and outside of it understands why that’s the case.

    Too many in this country live in their bubbles and only see the world through that lens. Few understand what it means to take a long walk on the beach for perspective.

    Is this country perfect? Absolutely not.

    We should understand our imperfections and work to solve them. While I don’t necessarily agree with some of the whiplash response to policing issues in this country, I do think one of the great things about our country is that we can have those discussions.

    For those that want us to turn into a Scandinavian country for instance, you always have the option of moving there if that works for you. But when push comes to shove, nobody really does that. That whole action vs words thing you know.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    Tequilla said:

    jecornel said:

    The idea of eliminating higher learning for the gifted and smart because it’s exclusionary absolutely fucking crazy.

    Or turning it into a lottery system is absolutely INSANE.

    I’d be really interested in hearing the reasoning of those that want to eliminate

    I suspect it’s a lot of belief behind those that are gifted and smart are such because of being born into a silver spoon with advantages that others don’t have so it’s just right sizing the opportunity gap
    That's it. If you stand out, you get hammered. Or as some gifted Canadian rock band once said,

    And the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe, and saw
    The rub to the whole thing is we aren’t equal ... nor should we aspire to that. The differences are what makes things great and generates progress.

    I’m all for equal access to the tools and opportunities to be successful.

    But at the end of the day, it’s on the individual to determine their path, define their drive, and plot their success.

    Personally, I’d be absolutely miserable if I was in a position of being held back by others. Waste of time and energy.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,219
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goddammit, I clicked the name and then realized I'd been drug into the fucking Tug...

    Why is it so hard to understand that people can be complex and not fall into some boilerplate definition of "liberal" or "conservative"? Not every liberal is one of the woke freaks on Twitter, just like not every conservative is storming the Capitol with a confederate flag. If a clip like this of Bill Maher surprises you, you've never watched Bill Maher. For fuck's sake, his previous show was literally called, "Politically Incorrect With Bill Maher." Railing against political correctness and "calling it like he sees it" is kind of his thing.

    Maher identifies with the left when it comes to most issues. He's a Hollywood animal loving pro-abortion vegetarian atheist socialist. But he's complex. He comes off as an incredibly smug asshole who thinks his farts don't stink, but his show is definitely unique in that you don't get the sense it was bought and paid for by a political party or big business (he's often pointed out the freedom of not having advertisers). His guests are overwhelmingly liberal, but not for lack of trying. His favorite guests are people like Ann Coulter (every time he interviews her, all I can think is that they have to be fucking) and Milo and Jordan Peterson, who he's always trying to get and typically gives a tough but fair interview to. He wants to be Hollywood elite, so he sometimes blows big-time actors and whatnot, but he's equally fair and tough to liberal politicians who come on the show if he has a problem with what they're doing. One of his biggest and most frequent schticks is railing on the democratic party for being weak losers who wouldn't know what winning was if they saw it (he is to being a Democrat as Hardcore Husky is to being a Husky). He's stated many times that, although policing is broken, the country has gone too far with the anti-police rhetoric. He's stated many times that, although the #metoo movement is important and should be taken seriously, it's also gone too far. One his most frequent things is pointing out the hypocrisy of "supporting" fundamentalist Islam's abuse of women while cancelling Louis CK's or Al Franken's careers.

    Mostly, though, he rolls his eyes at crazy, over the top PC bullshit and modern wokeness. Calling out harmful political correctness has been His Thing since he was just a touring comic. He's old, smug, has made anti-PC his defining character trait, is all about "winners win" and wants his team to start cheating like the other guys in order to win at all cost. In other words: Which one of you fucks is Bill Maher?

    Because government is liberalism in a nut shell. He overwhelmingly supports the ideology and needs to understand how and why it's so out of control. Most people believe there's enough room to stay in the grey but if you haven't been paying attention there is only 1 opinion that matters anymore and if you don't agree well you need to be cancelled.
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
    To be, or not to be, that is the question.

    And HHusky is Retarded, that is the fact.
    I don't mind living here, but the maid is doing a half-ass job.
    You should find one with a green card then.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,352
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    RoadTrip said:

    HHusky said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goddammit, I clicked the name and then realized I'd been drug into the fucking Tug...

    Why is it so hard to understand that people can be complex and not fall into some boilerplate definition of "liberal" or "conservative"? Not every liberal is one of the woke freaks on Twitter, just like not every conservative is storming the Capitol with a confederate flag. If a clip like this of Bill Maher surprises you, you've never watched Bill Maher. For fuck's sake, his previous show was literally called, "Politically Incorrect With Bill Maher." Railing against political correctness and "calling it like he sees it" is kind of his thing.

    Maher identifies with the left when it comes to most issues. He's a Hollywood animal loving pro-abortion vegetarian atheist socialist. But he's complex. He comes off as an incredibly smug asshole who thinks his farts don't stink, but his show is definitely unique in that you don't get the sense it was bought and paid for by a political party or big business (he's often pointed out the freedom of not having advertisers). His guests are overwhelmingly liberal, but not for lack of trying. His favorite guests are people like Ann Coulter (every time he interviews her, all I can think is that they have to be fucking) and Milo and Jordan Peterson, who he's always trying to get and typically gives a tough but fair interview to. He wants to be Hollywood elite, so he sometimes blows big-time actors and whatnot, but he's equally fair and tough to liberal politicians who come on the show if he has a problem with what they're doing. One of his biggest and most frequent schticks is railing on the democratic party for being weak losers who wouldn't know what winning was if they saw it (he is to being a Democrat as Hardcore Husky is to being a Husky). He's stated many times that, although policing is broken, the country has gone too far with the anti-police rhetoric. He's stated many times that, although the #metoo movement is important and should be taken seriously, it's also gone too far. One his most frequent things is pointing out the hypocrisy of "supporting" fundamentalist Islam's abuse of women while cancelling Louis CK's or Al Franken's careers.

    Mostly, though, he rolls his eyes at crazy, over the top PC bullshit and modern wokeness. Calling out harmful political correctness has been His Thing since he was just a touring comic. He's old, smug, has made anti-PC his defining character trait, is all about "winners win" and wants his team to start cheating like the other guys in order to win at all cost. In other words: Which one of you fucks is Bill Maher?

    Because government is liberalism in a nut shell. He overwhelmingly supports the ideology and needs to understand how and why it's so out of control. Most people believe there's enough room to stay in the grey but if you haven't been paying attention there is only 1 opinion that matters anymore and if you don't agree well you need to be cancelled.
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
    It's a living notion open to change and interpretation is what guys like you have tried to explain.
    The Declaration of Independence is a living thing?

    Big if true.
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    RoadTrip said:

    Tequilla said:

    It’s amazing the large % of our country that doesn’t understand why Maher is spot on

    We’ve built a culture full of why we can’t do something instead of dreaming up ways on how to do something

    His joke about "infrastructure week" was spot on. So many of this country's greatest engineering/technological achievements were either directly run by the gubmint or bankrolled by it. We don't build cool shit anymore. We? should be on a crash course right now to build like 200 to 300 new nuclear power plants in the US. Just fucking do it. Instead we let the retards find ways to prevent us from doing what is needed.
    I like that you and GRG are expressing your frustration but both of you tend to be on the more liberal side of the equation (even though you deny that YS) so why are either of you surprised that government is fucking up our country?
    I'm a libtard, human scum by Tug FS standards. IRL I'm objectively a center-right moderate.

    Government has been fucking up this country since 1789. It's an age old tradition.
    Not like the last 20 years.

    Don't be going all MelloDawg on us.
    It's true that our fuck ups on nation building in the M.E. and opening our markets to China - both of which were bi-partisan - were historically bad, even by US standards.

    The shift from petrodollars to social media dollars has changed the nation by putting socially-retarded nerds in too many places of influence.

    I prefer the simple sociopathic greed of the prior eras, where government and the press acted as a brake on unhealthy wealth and power accumulation. Today, truly retarded minds are running the show and Silicon Valley wealth is exponentially greater than that accumulated by dealing with hostile Middle East Arab Regimes and chemical companies polluting the Gulf.

    With the media, the DNC and Silicon Valley wealth all in alliance, we're pretty much a Soviet Republic at this point.

    And that thrills losers like TKS and HH.
    So in essence, it's getting to be revenge of the nerds around here
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    Tequilla said:

    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.

    We? are a silly people, but somehow it always seems to work out where we are still better off than everyone else. Maybe our luck continues and maybe not. Either way it will be interesting.

    China has numerous strengths and a shit ton of weaknesses.
    Immigrants see and seize opportunities that abound in the U.S., while too many kids born here spend their lives learning how to hate their country and society at the feet of communist, race-baiting teachers and privileged, dumb parents who should've never bred.
    Do you see the glass half full or half empty?

    Seemingly everywhere else in the world America is viewed as the land of opportunity.

    Anybody that has done any amount of travel not only within our country and outside of it understands why that’s the case.

    Too many in this country live in their bubbles and only see the world through that lens. Few understand what it means to take a long walk on the beach for perspective.

    Is this country perfect? Absolutely not.

    We should understand our imperfections and work to solve them. While I don’t necessarily agree with some of the whiplash response to policing issues in this country, I do think one of the great things about our country is that we can have those discussions.

    For those that want us to turn into a Scandinavian country for instance, you always have the option of moving there if that works for you. But when push comes to shove, nobody really does that. That whole action vs words thing you know.
    The problem is that way too many people coming here don't see it as the land of opportunity, but see it as the land of free sh*t and then vote that way.
    I think that’s the difference between legal and illegal immigration

    We should be openly promoting legal immigration ... if you have a desire to pursue your best life and have aspirations that we can help you achieve ... let’s get through the process

    But if you’re coming into the country to be a resource drain ... nope
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    RoadTrip said:

    Tequilla said:

    It’s amazing the large % of our country that doesn’t understand why Maher is spot on

    We’ve built a culture full of why we can’t do something instead of dreaming up ways on how to do something

    His joke about "infrastructure week" was spot on. So many of this country's greatest engineering/technological achievements were either directly run by the gubmint or bankrolled by it. We don't build cool shit anymore. We? should be on a crash course right now to build like 200 to 300 new nuclear power plants in the US. Just fucking do it. Instead we let the retards find ways to prevent us from doing what is needed.
    I like that you and GRG are expressing your frustration but both of you tend to be on the more liberal side of the equation (even though you deny that YS) so why are either of you surprised that government is fucking up our country?
    I'm a libtard, human scum by Tug FS standards. IRL I'm objectively a center-right moderate.

    Government has been fucking up this country since 1789. It's an age old tradition.
    Not like the last 20 years.

    Don't be going all MelloDawg on us.
    It's true that our fuck ups on nation building in the M.E. and opening our markets to China - both of which were bi-partisan - were historically bad, even by US standards.

    The shift from petrodollars to social media dollars has changed the nation by putting socially-retarded nerds in too many places of influence.

    I prefer the simple sociopathic greed of the prior eras, where government and the press acted as a brake on unhealthy wealth and power accumulation. I can agree with this statement and have my concerns vis-a-vis social media and its very serious harm to society, although I'd probably differ to some degree with many of you on some of the particulars- e.g., Trump and Twitter. Today, truly retarded minds are running the show and Silicon Valley wealth is exponentially greater than that accumulated by dealing with hostile Middle East Arab Regimes and chemical companies polluting the Gulf.

    With the media, the DNC and Silicon Valley wealth all in alliance, we're pretty much a Soviet Republic at this point.

    And that thrills losers like TKS and HH.
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    One of my kids got the full-meal-SJW-deal in HS and college. Then she spent the summer in a poor country on another continent where everyone there, including the doctors and teachers, had the same singular goal in life: To come to the United States.

    Not Europe. Not Asia. Not even Canada.

    The United Fucking States.

    We aren't just a silly people. We are a stupid, gullible people taking for granted everything the rest of the world would die for.

    God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.

    We? are a silly people, but somehow it always seems to work out where we are still better off than everyone else. Maybe our luck continues and maybe not. Either way it will be interesting.

    China has numerous strengths and a shit ton of weaknesses.
    Immigrants see and seize opportunities that abound in the U.S., while too many kids born here spend their lives learning how to hate their country and society at the feet of communist, race-baiting teachers and privileged, dumb parents who should've never bred.
    Do you see the glass half full or half empty?

    Seemingly everywhere else in the world America is viewed as the land of opportunity.

    Anybody that has done any amount of travel not only within our country and outside of it understands why that’s the case.

    Too many in this country live in their bubbles and only see the world through that lens. Few understand what it means to take a long walk on the beach for perspective.

    Is this country perfect? Absolutely not.

    We should understand our imperfections and work to solve them. While I don’t necessarily agree with some of the whiplash response to policing issues in this country, I do think one of the great things about our country is that we can have those discussions.

    For those that want us to turn into a Scandinavian country for instance, you always have the option of moving there if that works for you. But when push comes to shove, nobody really does that. That whole action vs words thing you know.
    The problem is that way too many people coming here don't see it as the land of opportunity, but see it as the land of free sh*t and then vote that way.
    I think that’s the difference between legal and illegal immigration

    We should be openly promoting legal immigration ... if you have a desire to pursue your best life and have aspirations that we can help you achieve ... let’s get through the process

    But if you’re coming into the country to be a resource drain ... nope
    The problem is that legal immigration is largely linked to chain immigration. In theory, legal immigrants are supposed to be self-supporting and not subject to the public dole. This isn't remotely enforced. So, third world immigrants get their parents, siblings and aunts and uncles into the US and go on welfare. Look at Ilhan Omar. She hates this country but did a great job of getting her relatives here. There is no vetting of our "legal" immigrants. I'm probably under more surveillance than any Tsarnaev.

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2013/04/24/tamerlan-tsarnaev-got-mass-welfare-benefits/

    Marathon bombings mastermind Tamerlan Tsarnaev was living on taxpayer-funded state welfare benefits even as he was delving deep into the world of radical anti-American Islamism, the Herald has learned.

    State officials confirmed last night that Tsarnaev, slain in a raging gun battle with police last Friday, was receiving benefits along with his wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, and their 3-year-old daughter. The state’s Executive Office of Health and Human Services said those benefits ended in 2012 when the couple stopped meeting income eligibility limits. Russell Tsarnaev’s attorney has claimed Katherine — who had converted to Islam — was working up to 80 hours a week as a home health aide while Tsarnaev stayed at home.

    In addition, both of Tsarnaev’s parents received benefits, and accused brother bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan were recipients through their parents when they were younger, according to the state.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,816
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    I’m not really interested in what has happened ... and that’s true about most topics

    What I’m interested in is what do we want something to be and then working to carrying out that vision

    I hear often about how this and that is broken ...

    The great thing in those situations is that’s a great platform to scrap the current and make substantial positive changes

    Yet when it comes time to do that we’re too busy talking about all the reasons we can’t do stuff

    Like I said elsewhere, it’s all a mindset
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