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  • Member Posts: 5,117
    Tequilla said:

    Was more of a generic "as a program we got him on board" and the reality with the timing of Paopao leaving, if you recall there was a lot of uncertainty when Pete left and efforts to make sure that everybody was kept in that class. So I'll give credit for being able to keep Redman from going elsewhere.

    Other than that, there's nothing to really view at this point other than Redman looks to be a good looking prospect that is in a spot to take the torch from Cade in 2022.
    But why would Cato get any credit for landing a guy when he had no involvement with his recruitment? If you want to give someone credit, give it to Lake for holding onto all of the 2020 commits (probably his best achievement as UW coach). In the weeks between CP stepping down and signing day, Paopao was still the TE coach and Cato wasn't in a position where he could even contact recruits.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    edited February 2021
    Tequilla said:

    Cade stayed because he didn't have enough film on him to get a high enough pick this year to make it worth the while ... coming back and he'll very likely be an easy Top 2 round guy. It makes sense.

    Moore was a local kid that while I am optimistic on it being a good get we need to be realistic at what we're doing here. Moore is hopefully a high end guy that is getting brought in to fill gaps in recruiting that effectively didn't pan out for a few years. He wasn't the highest TE on the board last year for us and we missed on the higher targets.

    Bogan looks like he's a nice prospect and I look forward to seeing his development. Keeping local players home is a sign of competence vs being a disaster. For me to view a coach as being pretty good or better, you need to start winning recruiting battles against programs that are above your weight class and/or kids from out of the area that you're competing against at least relatively peer schools. Scott Huff is worth a damn. Cato ain't even close to that level at this point.
    If you would have been pissed if Moore and Bogan went elsewhere, which you surely would have, you have to give Cato credit for getting them. And I know its meaningless, but being in a battle vs. Georgia for Bowers is promising. And he did get Yary, despite the issues. Yes, he hasn't proven to be a great coach yet, but I'm saying he's laying a pretty good foundation for a guy that has been on the job for only 9 months. I see promise.
  • Member Posts: 7,696

    If you would have been pissed if Moore and Bogan went elsewhere, which you surely would have, you have to give Cato credit for getting them. And I know its meaningless, but being in a battle vs. Georgia for Bowers is promising. And he did get Yary, despite the issues. Yes, he hasn't proven to be a great coach yet, but I'm saying he's laying a pretty good foundation for a guy that has been on the job for only 9 months. I see promise.
    I'm mostly on your side on this one (I mean, tight end coach may be the least important thing if football, so who really gives a fuck anyway) in that I have no problem with Cato and think he seems to be doing a decent job. That being said, he didn't get Yary. USC got Yary, realized he's a crackhead, booted him, and then Cato picked up the sloppy seconds. Yary is a negative mark on Cato's record to me. Should have stayed away from those damaged goods.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    edited February 2021

    I'm mostly on your side on this one (I mean, tight end coach may be the least important thing if football, so who really gives a fuck anyway) in that I have no problem with Cato and think he seems to be doing a decent job. That being said, he didn't get Yary. USC got Yary, realized he's a crackhead, booted him, and then Cato picked up the sloppy seconds. Yary is a negative mark on Cato's record to me. Should have stayed away from those damaged goods.
    Fair, but it does show a willingness to go after some bad dudes. Haven't we been crying for bad dudes for years? Jimmy must have given the green light to go after Yary.
  • Member Posts: 7,965

    If this doesn’t scream “Hiring you’re friends” then I don’t know what this is. But everywhere I’ve been that this happens it never works out in the long run

    hardhat said:
    They did and lake got turned down and one of the Candidates went to your rival and said he is about to release the Krakken
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    Somewhere south of seven wins? That sounds bad.
    I'm talking about more than wins Ern. The south of seven wins territory is just the inevitable finale. The public image of Lake's program has already sunk there and that's fucking ridiculous given what Lake was handed. Wins will soon follow.
  • Member Posts: 77
    Guys, relax. Bob is an OKG.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    chuck said:

    I'm talking about more than wins Ern. The south of seven wins territory is just the inevitable finale. The public image of Lake's program has already sunk there and that's fucking ridiculous given what Lake was handed. Wins will soon follow.
    Did we not just win the north? Let's give Jimmy a full season, shall we?
  • Member Posts: 20,098

    But why would Cato get any credit for landing a guy when he had no involvement with his recruitment? If you want to give someone credit, give it to Lake for holding onto all of the 2020 commits (probably his best achievement as UW coach). In the weeks between CP stepping down and signing day, Paopao was still the TE coach and Cato wasn't in a position where he could even contact recruits.
    I agree with you ... Cato deserves minimal credit for Redman
  • Member Posts: 3,333

    Did we not just win the north? Let's give Jimmy a full season, shall we?
    If Jimmy sees unquestionably superior offensive coordinator Tom Herman is available, and uses all the money he just saved promoting Gregory to fire Donovan, I'm ready to give him a full season.

    Every single decision he's made has been a shitting all over himself a priori. Donovan/Jimmy's offensive fever dream has been a failure a posteriori, no matter how much people want to keep saying it was better than expected.
  • Member Posts: 20,098

    If you would have been pissed if Moore and Bogan went elsewhere, which you surely would have, you have to give Cato credit for getting them. And I know its meaningless, but being in a battle vs. Georgia for Bowers is promising. And he did get Yary, despite the issues. Yes, he hasn't proven to be a great coach yet, but I'm saying he's laying a pretty good foundation for a guy that has been on the job for only 9 months. I see promise.
    In golf terms, I see getting Moore and Bogan as playing a Par 4, hitting your drive down the middle, playing to the fat of the green leaving yourself a 30 foot birdie putt, and hitting a good lag putt to tap in distance. It’s a solid result but not anything that you get a ton of credit for. 3 putting would be akin to losing them. Bowers is playing a Par 5 where you need to make eagle, hit a strong drive to give yourself a chance, but you need to hit a perfect 3 wood on the edge of your number to have any chance ... being in a battle just means that you hit the greenside bunker instead of the water hazard fronting the green or the OB to the left.
  • Member Posts: 20,098

    Fair, but it does show a willingness to go after some bad dudes. Haven't we been crying for bad dudes for years? Jimmy must have given the green light to go after Yary.
    If Yary’s issues were well known (and it sounds like they were) then he shouldn’t have been brought in

    This “we need bad dudes” narrative is fucking idiotic
  • Member Posts: 3,333
    Ballz said:

    That’s a terrible hire on face value. Bob’s position group has underwhelmed since the departures of Victor, Bierria, and BBK. He has struggled badly as a recruiter and special teams have been horrible. So basically he’s failing his way to a promotion.

    However, we also know Jeff Tedford is a hell of a coach and he trusted BG to be his DC for seven years. That means something and gives me hope. Like I said before, I’ll wait to see the results on the field before I judge. Hopefully having the title of DC will give BG the spark he needs on the recruiting trail. Really all he has to do is get Dishawn Misa for the 2022 class. It’s not that hard.

    I am even more confused by the move of Malloe to OLB coach when he has absolutely killed it recruiting and coaching the D-line. I don’t have a problem with promoting an analyst from within because Cato seems to be doing a really good job so far. But Rip Rowan better be fucking ELITE as a recruiter and coach otherwise that move is stupid as fuck. We’ll see.

    ...

    I like how in Rowen’s bio on gohuskies they added a link to a 247 article that lists him as one of the top 30 coaches in college football under the age of 30. How dumb do they think we are? It’s pretty easy to make that list when there aren’t a lot of college coaches under the age of 30 to begin with.

    And why can’t Jimmy fire one of the DB coaches and hire John Timu as ILB coach so Gregory doesn’t have to recruit? At least give us something.

    Chest said:

    You know it’s a bad hire when even Ballz thinks so.

  • Member Posts: 16,419

    If you want to give someone credit, give it to Lake for holding onto all of the 2020 commits (probably his best achievement as UW coach).
    That was 100% Petersen.
  • Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,208 Founders Club

    If you would have been pissed if Moore and Bogan went elsewhere, which you surely would have, you have to give Cato credit for getting them. And I know its meaningless, but being in a battle vs. Georgia for Bowers is promising. And he did get Yary, despite the issues. Yes, he hasn't proven to be a great coach yet, but I'm saying he's laying a pretty good foundation for a guy that has been on the job for only 9 months. I see promise.
    Pretty sure we? got Yary because of the issues, i.e., we? weren't close enough to see them until he arrived.
  • Member Posts: 5,755
    Goduckies said:

    They did and lake got turned down and one of the Candidates went to your rival and said he is about to release the Krakken
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    edited February 2021
    chuck said:

    Fuck that stupid north title. Thats the most ridiculous thing to claim that I've ever heard of in college football. If you feel like your team just won anything of note then you're the only one here who does. That I would bet on.

    75% of his job is the offseason, and @GrandpaSankey can see that he sucks at it. His recruiting and staff management doesn't need a season for any objective in server to see that.
    I make judgements based on what happens on the field. Outlandish, I know. Stanford was ugly, but we still should have had a chance to play for the title. Your tune might be different had we won it. In this asterisk of a season, we went 3-1. Hard to make judgements yet. I'm in show-me mode. I'm giving Jimmy the chance to sink or swim on the field. LIPO.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    I make judgements based on what happens on the field. Outlandish, I know. Stanford was ugly, but we still should have had a chance to play for the title. Your tune might be different had we won it. In this asterisk of a season, we went 3-1. Hard to make judgements yet. I'm in show-me mode. I'm giving Jimmy the chance to sink or swim on the field. LIPO.
    Doog on then. Just don't expect anyone to join you.
  • Member Posts: 89
    Cato current evaluation is simmilar to KB early when he came in luckily there was solid local talent at his position and he signed them but you don't deserve extra credit for that. KB has been exposed sinse as a terrible recruiter who has been unable to recruit any out of state talent. At this point we suck and obviously don't want to spend money and essentially are running a low power 5 model of hiring interns and internal promotions. At this point LIPO..
    Tequilla said:

    In golf terms, I see getting Moore and Bogan as playing a Par 4, hitting your drive down the middle, playing to the fat of the green leaving yourself a 30 foot birdie putt, and hitting a good lag putt to tap in distance. It’s a solid result but not anything that you get a ton of credit for. 3 putting would be akin to losing them. Bowers is playing a Par 5 where you need to make eagle, hit a strong drive to give yourself a chance, but you need to hit a perfect 3 wood on the edge of your number to have any chance ... being in a battle just means that you hit the greenside bunker instead of the water hazard fronting the green or the OB to the left.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    chuck said:

    Doog on then. Just don't expect anyone to join you.
    I'm super broken up about this.

  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    I'm super broken up about this.

    Your posting makes it clear that you care. You want someone here to side with you.

    I'm always one of the last to give up on coaches and players. I thought Lake was the right hire. I didn't pile on or even comment when he started making needle dick moves out of the gate. I've seen enough though. History is going to side with the half brains on this one. It's painfully obvious.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    edited February 2021
    chuck said:

    Your posting makes it clear that you care. You want someone here to side with you.

    I'm always one of the last to give up on coaches and players. I thought Lake was the right hire. I didn't pile on or even comment when he started making needle dick moves out of the gate. I've seen enough though. History is going to side with the half brains on this one. It's painfully obvious.
    There's several rational posters that have said some version of LIPO. @RaceBannon is letting Jimmy cook. So am I. Quit bein so damn dramatic. It's not a good look.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    edited February 2021
    Gladstone said:

    You've been screeching through teary eyes about this, to the amusement and mockery of literally everyone else here. Don't try and play cool now, kiddo.

    edit: lol @ trying to tie yourself to race foh
    Go through my posts, Gladstone. Not surprised that you're living in an alternate reality.

    It's like its abnormal to not be jumping off a bridge after every move.
  • Member Posts: 8,028
    Gladstone said:


    You get props for using a gif from The Room, my favorite movie of all time.

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