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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    There is nothing that came be done that won’t make some people mad. What a stupid argument.

    Why do you feel entitled to the labor of others for the choices you made?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Maybe we should subsidize All gamblers bets up to $50,000 just to make it Fair
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,371
    edited November 2020
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There is nothing that came be done that won’t make some people mad. What a stupid argument.

    I’m sympathetic. We spent a shitload of money sending three kids to college. There should be some recognition of that for people of moderate means who paid outrageous sums.
    I recognize it, now do you feel better? But no fucking way should other taxpayers be subsidizing you for the choices you made. This is a slap in the face to people who chose not to go to college and those of us who paid our own way through college.

    Why should I or anyone else be subsidizing someone who chose to go to an expensive private college or for that matter any college? Should the guy who works as a plumber really be subsidizing the gender studies major that went to Oberlin?

    My comment was based on the assumption that there will be some student loan debt relief. I think that’s a virtual certainty, don’t you? If it comes, I think parents who sacrificed to send kids to school in recent years should also get some relief.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,371
    doogie said:

    Chump

    Succinct
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There is nothing that came be done that won’t make some people mad. What a stupid argument.

    I’m sympathetic. We spent a shitload of money sending three kids to college. There should be some recognition of that for people of moderate means who paid outrageous sums.
    I recognize it, now do you feel better? But no fucking way should other taxpayers be subsidizing you for the choices you made. This is a slap in the face to people who chose not to go to college and those of us who paid our own way through college.

    Why should I or anyone else be subsidizing someone who chose to go to an expensive private college or for that matter any college? Should the guy who works as a plumber really be subsidizing the gender studies major that went to Oberlin?

    My comment was based on the assumption that there will be some student loan debt relief. I think that’s a virtual certainty, don’t you? If it comes, I think parents who sacrificed to send kids to school in recent years should also get some relief.
    If the GOP holds the Senate it isn't a certainty and the fact that it is even being considered is fucking outrageous. Blue collar folks subsidizing people who chose to go to college is class warfare in reverse. I couldn't afford to attend a private school. Why should I pay for someone who could have easily attended a less expensive school but now has tens of thousands in student loan debt on account of choosing to go to a private or out of state school? No, you shouldn't get any relief.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    HHusky said:

    There is nothing that came be done that won’t make some people mad. What a stupid argument.

    I’m sympathetic. We spent a shitload of money sending three kids to college. There should be some recognition of that for people of moderate means who paid outrageous sums.
    I’m not convinced that the people saying we shouldn’t do it because they already paid, aren’t just right wingers who would oppose it regardless.

    I do think there’s lot of people like you, who could support it but feel it’s unfair. And, for the record, it is unfair.

    I don’t know what you mean by “recognition”. I would say by cancelling the debt we are acknowledging that the people before got a raw deal. I don’t think any kind of compensation is on the table because the right would scream about how are we going to pay for that and dems don’t have the courage to stand up to that nonsense.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,371

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    There is nothing that came be done that won’t make some people mad. What a stupid argument.

    I’m sympathetic. We spent a shitload of money sending three kids to college. There should be some recognition of that for people of moderate means who paid outrageous sums.
    I recognize it, now do you feel better? But no fucking way should other taxpayers be subsidizing you for the choices you made. This is a slap in the face to people who chose not to go to college and those of us who paid our own way through college.

    Why should I or anyone else be subsidizing someone who chose to go to an expensive private college or for that matter any college? Should the guy who works as a plumber really be subsidizing the gender studies major that went to Oberlin?

    My comment was based on the assumption that there will be some student loan debt relief. I think that’s a virtual certainty, don’t you? If it comes, I think parents who sacrificed to send kids to school in recent years should also get some relief.
    Work it off. What other 'debt relief' are you planning on pawning off on normal working joe taxpayer?

    Parents who paid for English Lit degrees are dumbfucks. Same dumbfuck parents who think 5'2" Johnny should be on the varsity basketball team because he loves the game so much and they paid for private coaching sessions.

    Dumbfucks.

    I’m thinking I’ll be paying a lot more for this than “normal joe”. “normal joe” doesn’t make so much that he pays a ton of federal income tax. The bad policies that led us to this point are spilled milk.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,846 Swaye's Wigwam
    It is a good idea but I think it should only go to blacks that have suffered from slavery.

    this in lieu of reparations -

    and by the way @TheKobeStopper What an asshole comment in reply to HH