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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    You realize the Democrats run those elections in heavily Democratic areas, right?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,541 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    You realize the Democrats run those elections in heavily Democratic areas, right?
    Someone should let Kim Wyman know.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

    Sorry.

    I'll check the thesaurus for some other terms for bullshit.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,541 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

    Sorry.

    I'll check the thesaurus for some other terms for bullshit.
    Don't bother. Every poast of yours illustrate bullshit.

  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    You realize the Democrats run those elections in heavily Democratic areas, right?
    I do. But IIRC their were claims that voters still couldn’t get the opportunity to cast their ballots due to lack of resources (time/money), intimidation by individuals, etc. Not always under the control of local officials.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

    Sorry.

    I'll check the thesaurus for some other terms for bullshit.
    Don't bother. Every poast of yours illustrate bullshit.

    The lack of evidence really proves that there's a conspiracy.

  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

    Sorry.

    I'll check the thesaurus for some other terms for bullshit.
    Don't bother. Every poast of yours illustrate bullshit.

    The lack of evidence really proves that there's a conspiracy.

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My .02 cents.

    The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.

    We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.

    If you disagree you can fuck off!

    I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.

    Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
    Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?

    Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp?
    "baseless claims".

    @HHusky right on cue with the central party approved language. Been all over every ABC News report - both radio and TV since last Friday.

    Sorry.

    I'll check the thesaurus for some other terms for bullshit.
    Don't bother. Every poast of yours illustrate bullshit.

    The lack of evidence really proves that there's a conspiracy.

    Russian Collusion POTD