The Tragedy of Seattle
And now, with homelessness being encouraged, criminal activity being made legal, police budget going to be cut by 50%, police officers being demonized, and the Seattle City Council has just passed a tax law that will impose $200 million of extra taxes on big Seattle businesses during a deep recession -- which will drive many of the business to leave the area.
Seattle is going to turn into Cleveland or Newark. And there will be no bounce back. No business person in their right mind will want to invest in the area.
And Seattleites are sitting by and letting it happen.
And this doensn't take into account how Inslee is fucking over the state as a whole.
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This is the most incredible part.DerekJohnson said:Swaye and I were talking a few weeks ago and he mentioned how in the 1990s, Seattle was one of the greatest places on earth. I've been thinking a lot about that comment.
And now, with homelessness being encouraged, criminal activity being made legal, police budget going to be cut by 50%, police officers being demonized, and the Seattle City Council has just passed a tax law that will impose $200 million of extra taxes on big Seattle businesses during a deep recession -- which will drive many of the business to leave the area.
Seattle is going to turn into Cleveland or Newark. And there will be no bounce back. No business person in their right mind will want to invest in the area.
And Seattleites are sitting by and letting it happen.
And this doensn't take into account how Inslee is fucking over the state as a whole.
WTF is wrong with 'you people'? Are you fucking pussies with no spine to stand up for what you believe in?
You're about 2 years away from being Charlton Heston in The Omega Man - locked inside your fortified home, carrying on conversation with some inanimate object, hoping to fuck the zombies don't stage an attack on your home. Or perhaps you simply don't give a fuck because you've Ka-Chinged on a stock option bonanza at some point in your pathetic life and think you can simply pick up and bail to Bend, OR and fuck that place up too with your indifference?
Guess what? At some point, nobody is going to want to buy your shitty 1800 square foot house for $2.5 Million.
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They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
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LolSwaye said:They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
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Fine with me. It’s the script.
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better seats for you?MikeDamone said:Fine with me. It’s the script.
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Actually no. I’m ready for it to become a pea patch and move on.DerekJohnson said:
better seats for you?MikeDamone said:Fine with me. It’s the script.
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I blame the CaliforniansSwaye said:They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
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Moved away in 2017. Been back a couple times and it seemed like the homeless situation continues to get worse despite all the money getting thrown at it. It's almost like there's some connection between opioid abuse, homelessness, and crime but I just can't figure out what that connection might be.Swaye said:They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
Like @whatshouldicareabout, I also blame the Californians. -
Money, money, money.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Moved away in 2017. Been back a couple times and it seemed like the homeless situation continues to get worse despite all the money getting thrown at it. It's almost like there's some connection between opioid abuse, homelessness, and crime but I just can't figure out what that connection might be.Swaye said:They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
Like @whatshouldicareabout, I also blame the Californians.
Dealers get theirs, kickbacks to the politicians, save-the-downtrodden-pseudo-charities and bureaucrats gets theirs.
Homelessness is it's own economy.
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Beware the homeless industrial complex.PurpleThrobber said:
Money, money, money.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Moved away in 2017. Been back a couple times and it seemed like the homeless situation continues to get worse despite all the money getting thrown at it. It's almost like there's some connection between opioid abuse, homelessness, and crime but I just can't figure out what that connection might be.Swaye said:They are killing the golden goose. Seattle in the 90s was perfect. Liberal sure, but lots of TUFF logger types, not these pussy SJW progressive weenies. The fall for Seattle has been swift and profound. From my favorite city pretty much ever, to one of the worst, all in a generation.
Like @whatshouldicareabout, I also blame the Californians.
Dealers get theirs, kickbacks to the politicians, save-the-downtrodden-pseudo-charities and bureaucrats gets theirs.
Homelessness is it's own economy. -
I moved to California in revenge
It's now MAGA country -
I can tell you guysm from my own internal polling, the majority of current or would be Seattle home buyers aren’t all that phased by CHOP or Defund The Police. They seem to think it’s progress. There would have to be a massive uptick of violent crime in Madison Park, QA, Ravenna, etc before folks think there is a big problem.
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Detroit West.
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The lessons of the 60's and 70's failed policies are here to make a comeback. Urban decay will be the new gentrification.
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The white flight from Seattle already happened decades ago.UW_Doog_Bot said:Detroit West.
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YellowSnow said:
The white flight from Seattle already happened decades ago.UW_Doog_Bot said:Detroit West.
Demographics aside, it's about capital, business, and nice middle class people like you. There's plenty of shitty majority white Midwest cities. -
I graduated 2007, and I remember articles how it was the first time a starting salary out of UW wasn’t really enough to cover cost of living in Seattle. I probably remember that because I took my electrical engineering degree and basically same starting salary to Texas.
It’s nice to visit Seattle but every time I hear friends or family piss and moan about Seattle I remind them they don’t have to live there. -
Point being the Detroit analogy doesn’t really fit Seattle. Anyone who kept their Seattle real estate post bussing vs moving to Bellevue still ended up in a good spot.UW_Doog_Bot said:YellowSnow said:
The white flight from Seattle already happened decades ago.UW_Doog_Bot said:Detroit West.
Demographics aside, it's about capital, business, and nice middle class people like you. There's plenty of shitty majority white Midwest cities.
Thus far, most middle class people in Seattle are not yet very troubled by what’s going on up here. I’m clearly in the minority. -
Another myth of Seattle is how international and metropolitan it is. Yes you like “real” sushi even though your favorite place is Korean owned, and you know the difference between north and South Indian food. However, you’ve fucking never traveled and you see the world through the lense of your bullshit groupthink neighborhood espresso house friends sharing TED talks and npr articles.
I have way more international friends in Dallas fucking Texas than my friends back in Seattle. It’s geographically a great hub
for international business between South America and Europe. Most my friends are in Europe or Asia 2/3 times a year for work, and we can discuss much of the world first hand.
This cultural arrogance Seattle has is so infinitely unwarranted or earned, there’s a reason the only time you come up in the news is to be laughed at. -
How white UW was was a real shock to me coming from Southern California and it was always crazy to me that my friends at UW from Washington talked about how diverse it was.LoneStarDawg said:Another myth of Seattle is how international and metropolitan it is. Yes you like “real” sushi even though your favorite place is Korean owned, and you know the difference between north and South Indian food. However, you’ve fucking never traveled and you see the world through the lense of your bullshit groupthink neighborhood espresso house friends sharing TED talks and npr articles.
I have way more international friends in Dallas fucking Texas than my friends back in Seattle. It’s geographically a great hub
for international business between South America and Europe. Most my friends are in Europe or Asia 2/3 times a year for work, and we can discuss much of the world first hand.
This cultural arrogance Seattle has is so infinitely unwarranted or earned, there’s a reason the only time you come up in the news is to be laughed at. -
It’s never going to be Cleveland or Newark because the economic bases aren’t comparable, especially with it being the POE to the Pacific Rim, but it will certainly becomes a city almost devoid of its founding culture, as it looks to acquiesce to a militant minority voting bloc and cater more and more to foreign Corporate, political, and economic pressure. If Amazon, MS, or Boeing ever decide that they’ve had enough with people like Sawant, it could be dark, dark times for what was once the metropolitan capital of the Pacific NW. There are measures that can be taken to mitigate and prevent such realities, but those are politically problematic for our woke leadership.
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In the 90s it was whiter than a Coker mayonnaise sammichUW_Doog_Bot said:
How white UW was was a real shock to me coming from Southern California and it was always crazy to me that my friends at UW from Washington talked about how diverse it was.LoneStarDawg said:Another myth of Seattle is how international and metropolitan it is. Yes you like “real” sushi even though your favorite place is Korean owned, and you know the difference between north and South Indian food. However, you’ve fucking never traveled and you see the world through the lense of your bullshit groupthink neighborhood espresso house friends sharing TED talks and npr articles.
I have way more international friends in Dallas fucking Texas than my friends back in Seattle. It’s geographically a great hub
for international business between South America and Europe. Most my friends are in Europe or Asia 2/3 times a year for work, and we can discuss much of the world first hand.
This cultural arrogance Seattle has is so infinitely unwarranted or earned, there’s a reason the only time you come up in the news is to be laughed at. -
Is Seattle retarded?
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I feel really lucky that I got to visit, attend college, and live in Seattle when I did. It really was a jewel of a city tucked away in the corner of the country.
Problem is, it’s not only Seattle that’s going down the tubes, but the Eastside as well. Right now I’m in the process of packing and getting ready to LEAVE! Bellevue and it makes me sad, but this isn’t what I signed up for. I understand places and times change & evolve but this is ridiculous. -
Bellevue has two decades before it sees the kinds of problems that Seattle is experiencing.Doog_de_Jour said:I feel really lucky that I got to visit, attend college, and live in Seattle when I did. It really was a jewel of a city tucked away in the corner of the country.
Problem is, it’s not only Seattle that’s going down the tubes, but the Eastside as well. Right now I’m in the process of packing and getting ready to LEAVE! Bellevue and it makes me sad, but this isn’t what I signed up for. I understand places and times change & evolve but this is ridiculous. -
As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...
Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.
Tech is going no where.
Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is. -
Exactly this.DerekJohnson said:Swaye and I were talking a few weeks ago and he mentioned how in the 1990s, Seattle was one of the greatest places on earth. I've been thinking a lot about that comment.
And now, with homelessness being encouraged, criminal activity being made legal, police budget going to be cut by 50%, police officers being demonized, and the Seattle City Council has just passed a tax law that will impose $200 million of extra taxes on big Seattle businesses during a deep recession -- which will drive many of the business to leave the area.
Seattle is going to turn into Cleveland or Newark. And there will be no bounce back. No business person in their right mind will want to invest in the area.
And Seattleites are sitting by and letting it happen.
And this doensn't take into account how Inslee is fucking over the state as a whole.
Grew up in Eastern WA, moved to Seattle in ‘91 to go to UW, lived top of Queen Anne Hill at watched the WTO riots out of my living room window. Never imagined it could get worse.
Moved from QA to Ballard when zoning still existed that stipulated Swedish was the tallest building in the neighborhood. “Free Ballard.”
Watched the City Council destroy a great neighborhood by rezoning, increasing the tax base, etc., and then they moved Nicklesville from E Marginal Way to within 3 blocks of my Home.
Sold, moved to Woodinville, and now am headed back over the Mountains ASAP.
Fuck Seattle, and fuck the techie, dickless cunts that have taken it over, and try to act “woke.”
Best news is, the pieces of shit they vote into office just stamped their relocation passport out of town.
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First bolded section is why the second bolded section is unlikely, at least to the point where real change will be affected.CaptainPJ said:
Exactly this.DerekJohnson said:Swaye and I were talking a few weeks ago and he mentioned how in the 1990s, Seattle was one of the greatest places on earth. I've been thinking a lot about that comment.
And now, with homelessness being encouraged, criminal activity being made legal, police budget going to be cut by 50%, police officers being demonized, and the Seattle City Council has just passed a tax law that will impose $200 million of extra taxes on big Seattle businesses during a deep recession -- which will drive many of the business to leave the area.
Seattle is going to turn into Cleveland or Newark. And there will be no bounce back. No business person in their right mind will want to invest in the area.
And Seattleites are sitting by and letting it happen.
And this doensn't take into account how Inslee is fucking over the state as a whole.
Grew up in Eastern WA, moved to Seattle in ‘91 to go to UW, lived top of Queen Anne Hill at watched the WTO riots out of my living room window. Never imagined it could get worse.
Moved from QA to Ballard when zoning still existed that stipulated Swedish was the tallest building in the neighborhood. “Free Ballard.”
Watched the City Council destroy a great neighborhood by rezoning, increasing the tax base, etc., and then they moved Nicklesville from E Marginal Way to within 3 blocks of my Home.
Sold, moved to Woodinville, and now am headed back over the Mountains ASAP.
Fuck Seattle, and fuck the techie, dickless cunts that have taken it over, and try to act “woke.”
Best news is, the pieces of shit they vote into office just stamped their relocation passport out of town.
Fucking sheep
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Dude, it's all 100% fake. Seattleites are the insecure Frady-Cats from the playground who slowly tie their shoelaces or go to the bathroom when the real fighting starts. If I want the experience you describe, I go to Whistler, B.C. They've got all the international sexy stuff without the heroin addicts everywhere, like Vancouver, BC.LoneStarDawg said:Another myth of Seattle is how international and metropolitan it is. Yes you like “real” sushi even though your favorite place is Korean owned, and you know the difference between north and South Indian food. However, you’ve fucking never traveled and you see the world through the lense of your bullshit groupthink neighborhood espresso house friends sharing TED talks and npr articles.
I have way more international friends in Dallas fucking Texas than my friends back in Seattle. It’s geographically a great hub
for international business between South America and Europe. Most my friends are in Europe or Asia 2/3 times a year for work, and we can discuss much of the world first hand.
This cultural arrogance Seattle has is so infinitely unwarranted or earned, there’s a reason the only time you come up in the news is to be laughed at. -
This. I live in the city. This dystopian take is fun for the usual Tug Hyperbole Olympics, but it’s time to dial back the hysteria ladies. And whoever said Bellevue and the East Side is going to shit ... really? How so? In my view it’s never been better. ES has grown like crazy last 5 yrs, has more services, great public schools and tax base, and is attracting more bidness than ever. The only negative is that it’s become really expensive to buy in, and that is usually a sign that people want to be there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...
Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.
Tech is going no where.
Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.
Yeah there are some challenges at the present moment, but relax for Christ’s sake. I was working downtown during WTO, and we? have had a homeless issues here on and off for years. The U District itself was a blight of homelessness when I was there in the late 80s / early 90s. Granted not to the level we see now, and I sure don’t remember anyone like Sawant b4. But fuck, that doesn’t mean the city will be an ash heap any time soon.
Take a deep breath.
