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The Tragedy of Seattle

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,337
    thechatch said:

    It’s never going to be Cleveland or Newark because the economic bases aren’t comparable, especially with it being the POE to the Pacific Rim, but it will certainly becomes a city almost devoid of its founding culture, as it looks to acquiesce to a militant minority voting bloc and cater more and more to foreign Corporate, political, and economic pressure. If Amazon, MS, or Boeing ever decide that they’ve had enough with people like Sawant, it could be dark, dark times for what was once the metropolitan capital of the Pacific NW. There are measures that can be taken to mitigate and prevent such realities, but those are politically problematic for our woke leadership.

    Yeah, but it’s been devoid of it’s true founding culture for a long time due largely to tech, wealth and more outsiders moving here. The city of Ivar Hagland, hydroplane races and Boeing has long since gone. That Seattle was affordable, cozy, small, familiar and incredibly provincial, which is what people miss. In place of all those things, though, are many things that now make the city great. Challenging times but it’s awfully early I to write Seattle off just now.
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  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    MelloDawg said:

    CaptainPJ said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Swaye and I were talking a few weeks ago and he mentioned how in the 1990s, Seattle was one of the greatest places on earth. I've been thinking a lot about that comment.

    And now, with homelessness being encouraged, criminal activity being made legal, police budget going to be cut by 50%, police officers being demonized, and the Seattle City Council has just passed a tax law that will impose $200 million of extra taxes on big Seattle businesses during a deep recession -- which will drive many of the business to leave the area.

    Seattle is going to turn into Cleveland or Newark. And there will be no bounce back. No business person in their right mind will want to invest in the area.

    And Seattleites are sitting by and letting it happen.

    And this doensn't take into account how Inslee is fucking over the state as a whole.

    Exactly this.

    Grew up in Eastern WA, moved to Seattle in ‘91 to go to UW, lived top of Queen Anne Hill at watched the WTO riots out of my living room window. Never imagined it could get worse.

    Moved from QA to Ballard when zoning still existed that stipulated Swedish was the tallest building in the neighborhood. “Free Ballard.”

    Watched the City Council destroy a great neighborhood by rezoning, increasing the tax base, etc., and then they moved Nicklesville from E Marginal Way to within 3 blocks of my Home.

    Sold, moved to Woodinville, and now am headed back over the Mountains ASAP.

    Fuck Seattle, and fuck the techie, dickless cunts that have taken it over, and try to act “woke.”

    Best news is, the pieces of shit they vote into office just stamped their relocation passport out of town.

    Fucking sheep
    First bolded section is why the second bolded section is unlikely, at least to the point where real change will be affected.
    If their employer decides not to deal with bullshit socialist payroll taxes and moves to Boise, where the fuck else are those worthless hipsters going to get a job?

    They will have to follow and go infect another city.

    The opposite of what happened with Amazon v AOC.

    You seem like a smart kid, try to keep up
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,483 Standard Supporter
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I don’t think it is that bad either. I never hung out with Antifa type people or the woke crowd, so other than online, I barely even see any of it.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,788
    LoneStarDawg said:

    And let’s not forget the girls are ugly

    no society can flourish with ugly girls who act like they’re not.

    Disagree

    Sorry you couldnt pull puss up here my guy
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,756 Founders Club
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    And let’s not forget the girls are ugly

    no society can flourish with ugly girls who act like they’re not.

    Disagree

    Sorry you couldnt pull puss up here my guy
    Live in Dallas and Stockholm and then get back to me
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,337
    Doog_de_Jour said:

    creepycoug said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    This. I live in the city. This dystopian take is fun for the usual Tug Hyperbole Olympics, but it’s time to dial back the hysteria ladies. And whoever said Bellevue and the East Side is going to shit ... really? How so? In my view it’s never been better. ES has grown like crazy last 5 yrs, has more services, great public schools and tax base, and is attracting more bidness than ever. The only negative is that it’s become really expensive to buy in, and that is usually a sign that people want to be there.

    Yeah there are some challenges at the present moment, but relax for Christ’s sake. I was working downtown during WTO, and we? have had a homeless issues here on and off for years. The U District itself was a blight of homelessness when I was there in the late 80s / early 90s. Granted not to the level we see now, and I sure don’t remember anyone like Sawant b4. But fuck, that doesn’t mean the city will be an ash heap any time soon.

    Take a deep breath.
    You make good points as always, counselor. Bellevue and the Eastside are growing and doing very well financially, and will probably continue to do so as more businesses flee Seattle. I’m just saying it’s going downhill in terms of affordability, more homelessness, more traffic, and all the cute, small businesses that I liked when I initially moved there are pretty much all gone. Those are quality of life indicators that were important to me, but if I were in my 20s again I probably wouldn’t mind new Bellevue. I’m just getting older and my priorities have changed and I’ve made my peace with the fact Bellevue isn’t the suburb it used to be.
    That’s all true. Bellevue/Kirkland/Redmond are certainly no suburbs anymore. And they are expensive af. No doubt.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,238
    I will never move back to Texas because of the summer weather

    But I am closely monitoring what things look like post COVID regarding how remote work looks like ... does that make things like moving to a 2nd home in Montana or Bend or whatnot more realistic?

    At minimum, I suspect in the next few years I will move out of Seattle/King County ... just not worth the fucking craziness
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