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The Tragedy of Seattle

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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,512 Standard Supporter

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I live at 9th and Pine, across from the Paramount Theatre in one of the nicer apartment buildings in the city. The street below is littered with homelessness and drug use. Multiple Murders this year blocks from where I live. Cars and buildings set ablaze during the riots a month ago. DT Seattle is clearly on a descent. It is what it is. It’s the main reason I am pulling up tent stakes both on my home residence and office/warehouse space In SODO and moving to Bellevue.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,966 Founders Club

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I never said two years
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,966 Founders Club

    thechatch said:

    It’s never going to be Cleveland or Newark because the economic bases aren’t comparable, especially with it being the POE to the Pacific Rim, but it will certainly becomes a city almost devoid of its founding culture, as it looks to acquiesce to a militant minority voting bloc and cater more and more to foreign Corporate, political, and economic pressure. If Amazon, MS, or Boeing ever decide that they’ve had enough with people like Sawant, it could be dark, dark times for what was once the metropolitan capital of the Pacific NW. There are measures that can be taken to mitigate and prevent such realities, but those are politically problematic for our woke leadership.

    Yeah, but it’s been devoid of it’s true founding culture for a long time due largely to tech, wealth and more outsiders moving here. The city of Ivar Hagland, hydroplane races and Boeing has long since gone. That Seattle was affordable, cozy, small, familiar and incredibly provincial, which is what people miss. In place of all those things, though, are many things that now make the city great. Challenging times but it’s awfully early I to write Seattle off just now.
    I hope you're right of course, but I don't see it trending that way whatsoever. When you have leadership that seeks to decriminalize most criminal activity, and openly despises capitalism, you'll eventually reap what you sew.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,846 Swaye's Wigwam
    I moved out of the area (Mukilteo) 12 years ago when the property taxes and license tabs got ridiculous with their effort to fund that silly ass tunnel.

    I worked from home for a large corporation as did Mrs. Lebam.
    Breathe easy out here in the country, no sirens blaring at night, no sounds of traffic - all around quiet and relaxing.
    So Pacific county is far enough away that it hasn't been Californicated yet.

    I think it would be nice to have a state that is more balanced politically, I will leave when they get their income tax next year.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878

    I moved to California in revenge

    It's now MAGA country

    #metoo
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,208 Standard Supporter
    All one needs to look at is who are the locals putting on the city council and in the mayors office. This is no longer a trend. Trends can be reversed quickly in politics. This was happening 30 years ago when i lived in Seattle. Rats wanted this, planned and organized. Their dedication is actually something to behold and admired. The end result is disaster. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    When the socialists on the city council ignore the problems and push back on those who are outraged at how far down the city has dropped in quality of life and law and order, they know they are protected, untouchable. Now they are working on getting rid of the police and somehow manage to ignore all the crime, violence and the innocent victims. Just listen to them. They call violent protests where people are murdered and beaten, peaceful. The minions, the mindless followers are doing their dirty work and they approve. Its what they want and fuck the innocent victims.

    What it all means is, the rats are in charge of the ship and that ship is not turning around until it crashes into shore and sinks. Its too late for Seattle and the worst is yet to come because the goose steppers are going to continue to put the vile rat leaders in office.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,786
    edited July 2020
    thechatch said:

    As one of the only people that post here that lives petty much in the heart of the city, this isn't really accurate DJ...

    Especially the part about it becoming Cleveland in 2 years.

    Tech is going no where.

    Dont get me wrong, there are some bat shit crazy policies. But it's far from the hell hole my fellow tuggers think it is.

    I live at 9th and Pine, across from the Paramount Theatre in one of the nicer apartment buildings in the city. The street below is littered with homelessness and drug use. Multiple Murders this year blocks from where I live. Cars and buildings set ablaze during the riots a month ago. DT Seattle is clearly on a descent. It is what it is. It’s the main reason I am pulling up tent stakes both on my home residence and office/warehouse space In SODO and moving to Bellevue.
    Gotcha. I dont live downtown, but in an adjacent neighborhood. Everything is pretty normal.

    Downtown/Belltown are gross, but pretty much always has been. Theyve needed to make changes for years and years
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,337
    edited July 2020

    All one needs to look at is who are the locals putting on the city council and in the mayors office. This is no longer a trend. Trends can be reversed quickly in politics. This was happening 30 years ago when i lived in Seattle. Rats wanted this, planned and organized. Their dedication is actually something to behold and admired. The end result is disaster. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    When the socialists on the city council ignore the problems and push back on those who are outraged at how far down the city has dropped in quality of life and law and order, they know they are protected, untouchable. Now they are working on getting rid of the police and somehow manage to ignore all the crime, violence and the innocent victims. Just listen to them. They call violent protests where people are murdered and beaten, peaceful. The minions, the mindless followers are doing their dirty work and they approve. Its what they want and fuck the innocent victims.

    What it all means is, the rats are in charge of the ship and that ship is not turning around until it crashes into shore and sinks. Its too late for Seattle and the worst is yet to come because the goose steppers are going to continue to put the vile rat leaders in office.

    If this had been happening 30 years ago, why isn't the city run into the ground by now? I won't argue that Seattle is seeing arguably unprecedented challenges and that there are some kooks on the city council. But there is WAY WAY too much in Seattle for this place to all of sudden wind up with a collectivist mind set. You'll recall there was a murmur about the mob showing up in Medina at one point, and then you never heard it again. There are people who live around Lake Washington who can make pretty big phone calls. The people who organize and show up at $1500 / plate political fund raisers don't protest.

    I think you're seeing the loud minority and reacting to it. If there had been happening 30 years ago, how, then, did the city become so prosperous? How did the east side become Bio Tech Valley? Why has the number of PE firms here increase exponentially in that time period? Where did all of this development in downtown Seattle come from? Belltown was a SHIT HOLE 30 years ago. 20 years ago. Now there are multi-million dollar condo developments there. How did South Lake Union happen? How did the University of Washington go from being a good public university to an elite one?

    There are more million $ boats on Lake Washington than there are 18' Bayliners and SeaRays. I know a lot of those guys; most of them are not coders.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,690
    edited July 2020

    How did South Lake Union happen? How did the University of Washington go from being a good public university to an elite one?

    Its full of fags