Resetting expectations
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Dawgman isn’t successful (if you can call it that) because of marketing. Whatever success you can attribute to it is because Samek (RIP) was first to market. First mover advantage is huge. They built a base when no one else was in the market, and while most of this OGs have long since moved on that original base gave them the resources and credibility to get hooked up with a network (Rivals which became the insiders which became scout which became fox sports for a second which became scout again which was bought up by 247).dougthedawg said:
It just goes to show how important marketing is.sonics1993 said:
Hell no. Scott has literally no clue what he's talking about and flip flops all the time. His only source is Brandon Huffman who just hypes up anybody from FSP and anybody Gee Scott likes so he can get info from them. His recruiting blogs are worthless.insinceredawg said:
Is it true that JTT feels more comfortable with Big Joe in Oregon than Ikaika?sonics1993 said:
Logically speaking it looks good for UW. Both recruits have strong relationships with there position coaches and both families prefer UW but until I see Jimmy close someone, I won't get my hopes up for either guy.bananasnblondes said:So no go on Emeka and JTT?
You could be a lazy, stupid, insecure midget; a lazy, insecure, morbidly obese autistic; and a lazy, blithering fucking idiot who was cut from a DII squad as a frosh and you can make more than every other husky fan site combined by marketing it right.
If only Jimmy got that.
DM is what it is because of its access to guys like Biggins and Huffman and it’s ability for people to subscribe and get access to all kinds of national coverage as well.
It guides them credibility they could never earn on their own.
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It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information. -
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
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Talk to @IrishDawg22 he has this place dialed in.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
Also still waiting for you to change your avatar to Ned Flanders with all that positivity -
Doubling down was ballz thing, no need to bring that one back from the ash and rubble.CallMeBigErn said:
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
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Some? We all think some of them have great upside.CallMeBigErn said:
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
Next.
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I haven't said a thing about Jumper, Spears, Peihopa, Latu, Moore, and Huard. So the majority. Not your best effort.dnc said:
Some? We all think some of them have great upside.CallMeBigErn said:
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
Next.
Which recruits in this class have you not sung the praises of?
Tunuufi is a fucking STUD, by the way. High 5-star/low 6-star easy. -
So nothing about our best recruit of our likely second best recruit (Spears).
My bad. -
Just because I didn't say anything doesn't mean I don't like them. I don't live here. Let's use some logic.dnc said:So nothing about our best recruit of our likely second best recruit (Spears).
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@sonics1993, what the deal with UW sniffing around at another FB (kid from Utah named Coco)? I know they havent offered him yet but they are obviously talking to the kid about playing fullback. My guess is they might end up having to take Jumper as an actual TE and then still need a FB for some reason, but that seems like a terrible waste of valuable scholarship spots
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Based on the plodding RB Boner is recruiting, they need a lead blocker to have any chance of picking up positive yards in the running game.bananasnblondes said:@sonics1993, what the deal with UW sniffing around at another FB (kid from Utah named Coco)? I know they havent offered him yet but they are obviously talking to the kid about playing fullback. My guess is they might end up having to take Jumper as an actual TE and then still need a FB for some reason, but that seems like a terrible waste of valuable scholarship spots
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Shouldn’t the title of this thread be lowering expectations?
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Now I can't get the theme song to this year's recruiting out of my head:
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@sonics1993
1. Are we still recruiting Wynden?
2. What's the outlook on DB recruiting? If we take Leigber and Taylor now, will we still try to flip Burke, Riley, or Smith?
3. Did we lose Lonyatta or we were not recruiting him that hard? I gotta think if we took him right now then we've given up on landing both Troy/EE.
4. Do you think we land Bowers or Shield at TE? And if we don't, is Jumper our 2nd TE and the Coco kid going to be our Fullback/Halfback?
5. Are we done at RB?
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And now the gottdam MADtv song is stuck in mine.1to392831weretaken said:Now I can't get the theme song to this year's recruiting out of my head:
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NOC.CallMeBigErn said:
Just because I didn't say anything doesn't mean I don't like them. I don't live here. Let's use some logic.dnc said:So nothing about our best recruit of our likely second best recruit (Spears).
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MODS????CallMeBigErn said:
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
Next. -
Huh?GrandpaSankey said:
MODS????CallMeBigErn said:
I have real eyes and I don't need inside info to trust Coach K and Malloe.dnc said:
It’s because one of you has demonstrated a willingness to spin anything positively while the other one calls it like he sees it.CallMeBigErn said:CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
CallMeBigErn said:Gladstone said:
These kinds of comments are more effective if your posting precedent wasn't droolingly doogish.CallMeBigErn said:Look, the optics aren't great and the timing is weird, but if there's one position to trust these coaches and LIPO, it's DL. You bridge jumpers need to take a step back ffs.
Has Coach K and Malloe not earned a little trust around here?sonics1993 said:
If there's two guys I trust it's Malloe and Coach K and they see a big body that can move that just needs to be coached up.bananasnblondes said:
Tinae is committing on Sunday. Probably him.greenblood said:
Is it pitch a tent worthy?sonics1993 said:
Happening on Sunday. The woof wasn't for Berry who I knew was committing because I don't think it was a big pick up. I knew Finau was getting offered but didn't know he would commit on the spot.bananasnblondes said:Is the "woof" you woofed the other day actually happening and was it who people thought it was?
@sonics1993 what are your thoughts on the Finau offer and commitment? Any insight into how that came about?
When Big Ern suggested such a thing, the townsfolk brought out pitchforks. When Sonics says it, you clap like schoolgirls. What a fickle bunch.
And also, the other one actually has real information.
Oh please. The things I've spun positively are 1. Let this class play out (I'll double down on that if you wish), and 2. Some of the 3* guys in this class have great upside (ditto).
Next. -
Bingo. The only reason I still have a sub (besides hating money) is for the National guys and access to every school’s boreds. I read other boreds because their is a treasure trove of info on them. I haven’t gotten any real info from LPT in, well, ever.dnc said:
Dawgman isn’t successful (if you can call it that) because of marketing. Whatever success you can attribute to it is because Samek (RIP) was first to market. First mover advantage is huge. They built a base when no one else was in the market, and while most of this OGs have long since moved on that original base gave them the resources and credibility to get hooked up with a network (Rivals which became the insiders which became scout which became fox sports for a second which became scout again which was bought up by 247).dougthedawg said:
It just goes to show how important marketing is.sonics1993 said:
Hell no. Scott has literally no clue what he's talking about and flip flops all the time. His only source is Brandon Huffman who just hypes up anybody from FSP and anybody Gee Scott likes so he can get info from them. His recruiting blogs are worthless.insinceredawg said:
Is it true that JTT feels more comfortable with Big Joe in Oregon than Ikaika?sonics1993 said:
Logically speaking it looks good for UW. Both recruits have strong relationships with there position coaches and both families prefer UW but until I see Jimmy close someone, I won't get my hopes up for either guy.bananasnblondes said:So no go on Emeka and JTT?
You could be a lazy, stupid, insecure midget; a lazy, insecure, morbidly obese autistic; and a lazy, blithering fucking idiot who was cut from a DII squad as a frosh and you can make more than every other husky fan site combined by marketing it right.
If only Jimmy got that.
DM is what it is because of its access to guys like Biggins and Huffman and it’s ability for people to subscribe and get access to all kinds of national coverage as well.
It guides them credibility they could never earn on their own.
It pays to be FIRST. -
I get not liking Berry but he is far from plodding. Hes essentially a height-weight-speed prospectBleachedAnusDawg said:
Based on the plodding RB Boner is recruiting, they need a lead blocker to have any chance of picking up positive yards in the running game.bananasnblondes said:@sonics1993, what the deal with UW sniffing around at another FB (kid from Utah named Coco)? I know they havent offered him yet but they are obviously talking to the kid about playing fullback. My guess is they might end up having to take Jumper as an actual TE and then still need a FB for some reason, but that seems like a terrible waste of valuable scholarship spots
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To me, it looked like he avoided contact but then I read that he had an injured shoulder most of the season. If that is the case, maybe there's some hope.FKA_Mousecop said:
I get not liking Berry but he is far from plodding. Hes essentially a height-weight-speed prospectBleachedAnusDawg said:
Based on the plodding RB Boner is recruiting, they need a lead blocker to have any chance of picking up positive yards in the running game.bananasnblondes said:@sonics1993, what the deal with UW sniffing around at another FB (kid from Utah named Coco)? I know they havent offered him yet but they are obviously talking to the kid about playing fullback. My guess is they might end up having to take Jumper as an actual TE and then still need a FB for some reason, but that seems like a terrible waste of valuable scholarship spots
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That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.
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That meathead fella down in Eugene seems to be doing a fair-to-middling jobDoogWhisperer said:That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.
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Is it that surprising?DoogWhisperer said:That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.
Jimmy has taken a massive step up from assistant/coordinator to head coach ... he may have been a strong recruiter as an assistant/coordinator but he's showing that as a head coach he's right now average at best
Huff/Malloe are generally upper tier P12 recruiters but they are struggling when you consider either a) lack of talent on the West Coast and b) the support/infrastructure that they are working within).
Adams I have a hard time getting a read on ... on one hand he seems to be very good but he's gotten blown out as often as he's landed a top tier guy. Clearly the unknown of Donovan is hurting him at least to some degree. -
Jimmie Dougherty ... LOLMotrboatnsob said: -
1. Not right knowinsinceredawg said:@sonics1993
1. Are we still recruiting Wynden?
2. What's the outlook on DB recruiting? If we take Leigber and Taylor now, will we still try to flip Burke, Riley, or Smith?
3. Did we lose Lonyatta or we were not recruiting him that hard? I gotta think if we took him right now then we've given up on landing both Troy/EE.
4. Do you think we land Bowers or Shield at TE? And if we don't, is Jumper our 2nd TE and the Coco kid going to be our Fullback/Halfback?
5. Are we done at RB?
6. Do you expect Sam Adams to be on the roster a year from now?
2. Don't think we flip any DB and right now I expect it to be Tucker along with anthor DB offered.
3. He wasn't feeling us, Washington preferred him over Tinae.
4. No on Bowers, no feel on Shield. Jumper is already considered a TE
5. No idea
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Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.DoogWhisperer said:That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.
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I shared this with a couple guysm on the bored already. I talked to a high school coach here in Lexington. Their school has a 5-star OL who has a top 5 of Bama, UK, tOSU, Clemson, and Oregon.RoadDawg55 said:
Pete was a killer and if you typed in bets coach’s son CFB on Google, he was right at the top of pretty much every list. The ones that don’t think that didn’t help us in recruiting were delusional.DoogWhisperer said:That’s one of the most concerning things about this entire thing. Even our best recruiters (Jimmy, Malloe, Huff, Junior) are getting their shits pushed in.
The coach said Saban recently called their player and it was like getting a call from God.
That made me realize how good of a closer Pete was much by the virtue of him being named as one of the top 4-5 CFB coaches.
Jimmy is an unknown to these kids relatively speaking.
