Either the Washington coaches are crazy or are geniuses
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Dream on, bozo. You can’t cancel Gary. Da fuck is wrong with you?RaceBannon said:
I thought you got canceledGaryFromTeenMom said:I’m gonna go with “they all fucking suck and should be fired immediately”.
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From talking to him and his vision for the program I trust him. But his moves have been completely opposite from what his philosophy of being aggressive all the time. The money was there to fire Bob and KB and he choose to keep them and instead beef up the recruiting department which really didn't need it. Then he hires Terrence Brown and Cato, two unproven coaches who have no track record of success. Then there's the hire of Donovan which no one understands and it's absolutely killing offensive recruiting. I'm still in wait and see mode on Donavan because I like his philosophy and what he wants the offense to look like, we will see if he has the play calling skills. I don't care that he sucks at recruiting as long as he can call plays. But the two biggest red flag for me right now is the fact that it doesn't seem like Jimmy has a plan for recruiting and that he's letting friendship get in the way of making tough decisions. An example of having no plan would be offering Jacob Schuster a gray shirt, telling him that we really want him but we just don't have the numbers right now only to back track on that two months later and offer him a full ride for the 2021 class. Nothing changed number wise in last two months, a lot of schools just offered Jacob and so Jimmy got nervous and backtracked and offered him a full ride but his family wasn't to pleased with the gray shirt offer. And then there's the Julien Simon and Will Latu recruitment which was completely mishandled and so idiotic that I don't want to even talk about. My hope is that these are first year mistakes and Jimmy learns from them like Pete did his first year but I am getting nervous about him. Just really hope we have a season and win 10+ games, that will solve a lot of things.bananasnblondes said:@sonics1993 you obviously know the coaches and have been around the program. Being completely honest and based only on what you have seen of him that maybe the rest of us haven't, do you think Lake us cut out to be a succesful HC or is he just another assistant that will ultimately prove to be not up to the task.
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I wish I had an answer for that, makes no sense to me either.louism2wash said:@sonics1993 Can you shed any light on how Jimmy, a guy who certainly SEEMS to understand the importance of recruiting, failed to make any sort of splash move in recruiting as one of his first actions as head coach? It seems like that could have taken the form of getting rid of bad recruiters(Boner and Gregory) or adding an elite recruiter to the staff in some capacity as a position coach or as a recruiting coordinator or something like that.
For a guy who has been very vocal about recruiting and is a good recruiter himself it just seems weird that he didn't take any action.
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Honestly they are usually realistic but this year they have been completely off with some of the things they have said.DoogDawg said:
Question Sonics: are the position coaches you talk to usually pretty straight up about things going on, whether good or bad? Or do they usually put a positive spin on it? Just wondering how realistic they are being. Thanks!sonics1993 said:Talked to a couple different guys on the staff and neither of them are concerned about recruiting, in fact they like where they stand in recruiting. I made one of them repeat it because I couldn't believe it. They both told me that when things open back up, it's going to be insane and Washington will be in a very good place to deal with it. Both told me recruiting is a marathon not a sprint and believe come fall, they will flip a lot of these guys including Troy who they are still confident in. I want to believe but all my neutral sources aren't as optimistic so I got no clue how this ends.
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Gotta give credit where credit is due, Oregon's staff is filled with guys who can recruit and work hard doing it. Mario filled his staff with recruiters, Jimmy filled his staff with friends.dOgmaster said:And keep telling yourselves that none of those commits have visited. Only 1 of Oregons commits haven’t visited. Most more than once. They had a big cruit’n weekend prior to covid, like uw should have been doing. And its not just about visiting, its more about the relationship they establish with the coaches. That is where Oregon is killing it.
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He's probably also a poor planner and administrator. CP was up there with Saban when it came to having a basic idea of what his program was about and having a system to manage the whole thing. It takes more than charisma and relatability.
My guess is that Lake is CP Lite with half the managerial skills. If he gets great players that won't matter as much. Big if. -
Pete was as detailed as they come, that's why I always trusted him.Kingdome_Urinals said:He's probably also a poor planner and administrator. CP was up there with Saban when it came to having a basic idea of what his program was about and having a system to manage the whole thing. It takes more than charisma and relatability.
My guess is that Lake is CP Lite with half the managerial skills. If he gets great players that won't matter as much. Big if. -
Is it even possible at this point to get a read on how detailed Lake is relative to Pete?sonics1993 said:
Pete was as detailed as they come, that's why I always trusted him.Kingdome_Urinals said:He's probably also a poor planner and administrator. CP was up there with Saban when it came to having a basic idea of what his program was about and having a system to manage the whole thing. It takes more than charisma and relatability.
My guess is that Lake is CP Lite with half the managerial skills. If he gets great players that won't matter as much. Big if. -
I have seen his coaching hires and the way he's gone about recruiting which has me nervous.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it even possible at this point to get a read on how detailed Lake is relative to Pete?sonics1993 said:
Pete was as detailed as they come, that's why I always trusted him.Kingdome_Urinals said:He's probably also a poor planner and administrator. CP was up there with Saban when it came to having a basic idea of what his program was about and having a system to manage the whole thing. It takes more than charisma and relatability.
My guess is that Lake is CP Lite with half the managerial skills. If he gets great players that won't matter as much. Big if. -
Fair, but Covid has totally changed how he would normally go about recruiting, so it's tough to judge. We're a school of substance, not flash, and I think that really hurts us right now. We desperately need visits and practices, especially with a new HC and OC. Covid has definitely fucked us.sonics1993 said:
I have seen his coaching hires and the way he's gone about recruiting which has me nervous.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it even possible at this point to get a read on how detailed Lake is relative to Pete?sonics1993 said:
Pete was as detailed as they come, that's why I always trusted him.Kingdome_Urinals said:He's probably also a poor planner and administrator. CP was up there with Saban when it came to having a basic idea of what his program was about and having a system to manage the whole thing. It takes more than charisma and relatability.
My guess is that Lake is CP Lite with half the managerial skills. If he gets great players that won't matter as much. Big if.
