Voter Fraud is a myth
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I'm sexy?DuckHHunterisafag said:
What does your disdain of women really say about you?HHusky said:
Madam, voter ID solves polling place voter impersonation. It's your proposed solution to something that has maybe happened a dozen times in the past 20 years in the entire United States in any election.SFGbob said:
Speaking of strawmen.HHusky said:
The next time I call voter fraud a myth will be the first. Voter impersonation at polling places is a myth, of course.SFGbob said:
The Dazzler has been calling it a myth for over 20 years.ThomasFremont said:Nobody says it’s a myth. People get caught every year.
The myth is that voter fraud is so widespread it justifies mass disenfranchisement or changes outcomes.
Don’t believe me? Just ask Trump. His own committee found nothing and he shut it down. The whole thing was a stunt to soothe his ego over losing the popular vote so bigly.
https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud -
The next time I call only for voter ID to combat voter fraud will be the first. Fuck off Dazzler.HHusky said:
Madam, voter ID solves polling place voter impersonation. It's your proposed solution to something that has maybe happened a dozen times in the past 20 years in the entire United States in any election.SFGbob said:
Speaking of strawmen.HHusky said:
The next time I call voter fraud a myth will be the first. Voter impersonation at polling places is a myth, of course.SFGbob said:
The Dazzler has been calling it a myth for over 20 years.ThomasFremont said:Nobody says it’s a myth. People get caught every year.
The myth is that voter fraud is so widespread it justifies mass disenfranchisement or changes outcomes.
Don’t believe me? Just ask Trump. His own committee found nothing and he shut it down. The whole thing was a stunt to soothe his ego over losing the popular vote so bigly.
https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud -
Are you pretending the strawman is Tommy while you fuck it in the ass Dazzler?HHusky said:
Focus lady! Voter ID would have prevented this how?Bendintheriver said:
What is impressive about this story Bob, is the fact it wasn't just one person. It was multiple rats in power. The political consultants and the candidates themselves, you know they had to know about it. Three years running and you can probably guess there is a lot more there than what was admitted to. That is a lot of guilty rats.SFGbob said:
Every election cycle we find out more and more rats cheated and every time the rats on here come and act as if it is no big deal. -
You trust Chicago dems to police their own elections. Philly, NYC, California, Oregon, Jersey, St Louis, Detroit. I don't. I worked on campaigns, I know there is shady stuff going on. No way the fox reports on his own behavior in the hen house. The corruption never gets reported because the fox is watching the hen house. Every time you turn around democrats are taking more and more integrity away from the registration for the process that is the backbone of our democracy. California is a perfect example of where they are blurring the lines on registration. The margin for error is gigantic and as we know, illegals have been caught voting. Dead people have been caught voting and it is 95% of the time always illegal votes for democrats. That % doesn't happen by accidentThomasFremont said:
It’s not that it is no big deal. These people should be caught and stopped.Bendintheriver said:
What is impressive about this story Bob, is the fact it wasn't just one person. It was multiple rats in power. The political consultants and the candidates themselves, you know they had to know about it. Three years running and you can probably guess there is a lot more there than what was admitted to. That is a lot of guilty rats.SFGbob said:
Every election cycle we find out more and more rats cheated and every time the rats on here come and act as if it is no big deal.
BUT, the handful of frauds doesn’t justify the overreaction.
Almost like how a few dead people doesn’t justify a shutdown.
IF IT STOPS ONE FRAUDULENT VOTE.
I thought numbers mattered?
This faulty party designation for absentee ballots this month in OR. It only happened to Republican registered voters. That was no accident. Again, it is democrats running the show. -
Hey Dazzler, if a non-citizen registers to vote in California and then proceeds to vote in the next election what measure does the California state government use to make sure that ballot isn't counted?
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These tweets on this bored from both sides that are supposed to be silver bullets that prove scandal in one party and tacitly exonerate the other are always fascinating to me.
I think the argument is that mail in voting leads to widespread fraud. I’m curious as to the instances which show that. -
I'm guided by science and top mathematical models. If the few places that bother to check find illegals voting then the model clearly states that it is far more widespread than experts thought, according to experts.
I also predict a second wave of illegal voting this fall. Maybe 2 to 2.4 million dead votes cast
Calling it a minor issue would require the Secretary of State to actually do a study on the votes and voter rolls every 4 years or so. If one of you minimalists can link to the State of California study it would be appreciated.
Otherwise me and science win again -
This past election, shortly after the meet up at the Duchess where @Doog_de_Jour @paws @YellowSnow @PurpleBaze @Tequilla and most sadly @89ute all turned down my sexual advances, I moved to the Souf Sound, I proceeded to receive a ballot from King & Pierce Counties. I know my liberal brother in-law votes in California and Washington elections, including presidential.
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Yeah I'd love to see that study as well.RaceBannon said:I'm guided by science and top mathematical models. If the few places that bother to check find illegals voting then the model clearly states that it is far more widespread than experts thought, according to experts.
I also predict a second wave of illegal voting this fall. Maybe 2 to 2.4 million dead votes cast
Calling it a minor issue would require the Secretary of State to actually do a study on the votes and voter rolls every 4 years or so. If one of you minimalists can link to the State of California study it would be appreciated.
Otherwise me and science win again -
Our out of state experts here know more about how California registers voters than we do
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Well they are experts on pretty much all topics.RaceBannon said:Our out of state experts here know more about how California registers voters than we do
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Lotta FEELINGS. Still no evidence.
If this is as wide spread as you’d have people believe, should be easy to prove.
Tick, tick, tick...
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Ironic coming from the mouthy Kunt who still hasn't backed up his claim that a majority of all polling places where being closed in metro areas.ThomasFremont said:Lotta FEELINGS. Still no evidence.
If this is as wide spread as you’d have people believe, should be easy to prove.
Tick, tick, tick...
Or is that another Tommy "fact" that you know is true due to your "life experience?" -
Actually provided two linksThomasFremont said:Lotta FEELINGS. Still no evidence.
If this is as wide spread as you’d have people believe, should be easy to prove.
Tick, tick, tick...
Still waiting for anything from you showing that large sanctuary states like California even check
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SFGbob said:
Hey Dazzler, if a non-citizen registers to vote in California and then proceeds to vote in the next election what measure does the California state government use to make sure that ballot isn't counted?
Looks to me like your DMV is the one erroneously registering non-citizens to vote and that the problem is not that a bunch of non-citizens are seeking to register. Your problem can be solved at the DMV. Regardless, the voter rolls are permanent and reviewed periodically, just as the records of who voted are permanent and reviewed by multiple people.
And no one is claiming that the non-citizen's ballot isn't counted. But the disincentives to create a permanent public record of having committed a felony in order to cast a single vote are huge.
So when Florida did this in 2012, they began with the sensational claim that they potentially had 180,000+ non-citizen voters. Errors and duplications in their tabulations eventually reduced that number to a mere fraction. Then they looked at whether anyone on their lists had actually voted. They did find one had. Not soon enough to avoid his ballot being counted, but ONE.
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Looks to me like you dodged the question that was asked like the fucking Kunt you are.HHusky said:SFGbob said:Hey Dazzler, if a non-citizen registers to vote in California and then proceeds to vote in the next election what measure does the California state government use to make sure that ballot isn't counted?
Looks to me like your DMV is the one erroneously registering non-citizens to vote and that the problem is not that a bunch of non-citizens are seeking to register. Your problem can be solved at the DMV. Regardless, the voter rolls are permanent and reviewed periodically, just as the records of who voted are permanent and reviewed by multiple people.
And no one is claiming that the non-citizen's ballot isn't counted. But the disincentives to create a permanent public record of having committed a felony in order to cast a single vote are huge.
So when Florida did this in 2012, they began with the sensational claim that they potentially had 180,000+ non-citizen voters. Errors and duplications in their tabulations eventually reduced that number to a mere fraction. Then they looked at whether anyone on their lists had actually voted. They did find one had. Not soon enough to avoid his ballot being counted, but ONE.
Can you cite for me where California checks their voter registration rolls for citizenship? Yeah, they review the rolls to make sure you're still at the same address if you haven't voted for a number of election cycles but where do they check for citizenship status? -
SFGbob said:
Ironic coming from the mouthy Kunt who still hasn't backed up his claim that a majority of all polling places where being closed in metro areas.ThomasFremont said:Lotta FEELINGS. Still no evidence.
If this is as wide spread as you’d have people believe, should be easy to prove.
Tick, tick, tick...
Or is that another Tommy "fact" that you know is true due to your "life experience?"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VV09J
Phoenix and Atlanta. Reduced access (fewer polling places and reduced hours).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/texas-polling-sites-closures-voting
Targeted closures in Texas.
Almost 2k closures in a handful of years, the majority of the closures took place in metropolitan areas. Where black and Latino people tend to live in higher numbers. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
But keep crying about voter fraud that you can’t provide a single shred of evidence for outside of a handful of cases.
IF IT STOPS ONE FRAUDULENT VOTE!!1!
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Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
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Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
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Looks to me like you want someone to prove something didn’t happen because you’ve proven that something was possible. That’s not really how things work.SFGbob said:
Looks to me like you dodged the question that was asked like the fucking Kunt you are.HHusky said:SFGbob said:Hey Dazzler, if a non-citizen registers to vote in California and then proceeds to vote in the next election what measure does the California state government use to make sure that ballot isn't counted?
Looks to me like your DMV is the one erroneously registering non-citizens to vote and that the problem is not that a bunch of non-citizens are seeking to register. Your problem can be solved at the DMV. Regardless, the voter rolls are permanent and reviewed periodically, just as the records of who voted are permanent and reviewed by multiple people.
And no one is claiming that the non-citizen's ballot isn't counted. But the disincentives to create a permanent public record of having committed a felony in order to cast a single vote are huge.
So when Florida did this in 2012, they began with the sensational claim that they potentially had 180,000+ non-citizen voters. Errors and duplications in their tabulations eventually reduced that number to a mere fraction. Then they looked at whether anyone on their lists had actually voted. They did find one had. Not soon enough to avoid his ballot being counted, but ONE.
Can you cite for me where California checks their voter registration rolls for citizenship? Yeah, they review the rolls to make sure you're still at the same address if you haven't voted for a number of election cycles but where do they check for citizenship status? -
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
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No, I want you to prove something did happen. Nice try Dazzler. You're the one claiming the voter rolls are reviewed. Now all you have to do is show that they review them for citizenship. They don't.HHusky said:
Looks to me like you want someone to prove something didn’t happen because you’ve proven that something was possible. That’s not really how things work.SFGbob said:
Looks to me like you dodged the question that was asked like the fucking Kunt you are.HHusky said:SFGbob said:Hey Dazzler, if a non-citizen registers to vote in California and then proceeds to vote in the next election what measure does the California state government use to make sure that ballot isn't counted?
Looks to me like your DMV is the one erroneously registering non-citizens to vote and that the problem is not that a bunch of non-citizens are seeking to register. Your problem can be solved at the DMV. Regardless, the voter rolls are permanent and reviewed periodically, just as the records of who voted are permanent and reviewed by multiple people.
And no one is claiming that the non-citizen's ballot isn't counted. But the disincentives to create a permanent public record of having committed a felony in order to cast a single vote are huge.
So when Florida did this in 2012, they began with the sensational claim that they potentially had 180,000+ non-citizen voters. Errors and duplications in their tabulations eventually reduced that number to a mere fraction. Then they looked at whether anyone on their lists had actually voted. They did find one had. Not soon enough to avoid his ballot being counted, but ONE.
Can you cite for me where California checks their voter registration rolls for citizenship? Yeah, they review the rolls to make sure you're still at the same address if you haven't voted for a number of election cycles but where do they check for citizenship status? -
SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong? -
You were too short bruh. It’s @Gladstone or bust for me.huskyhooligan said:This past election, shortly after the meet up at the Duchess where @Doog_de_Jour @paws @YellowSnow @PurpleBaze @Tequilla and most sadly @89ute all turned down my sexual advances, I moved to the Souf Sound, I proceeded to receive a ballot from King & Pierce Counties. I know my liberal brother in-law votes in California and Washington elections, including presidential.
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Coo. Now do how it's the Republicans fault.ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Ironic coming from the mouthy Kunt who still hasn't backed up his claim that a majority of all polling places where being closed in metro areas.ThomasFremont said:Lotta FEELINGS. Still no evidence.
If this is as wide spread as you’d have people believe, should be easy to prove.
Tick, tick, tick...
Or is that another Tommy "fact" that you know is true due to your "life experience?"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VV09J
Phoenix and Atlanta. Reduced access (fewer polling places and reduced hours).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/texas-polling-sites-closures-voting
Targeted closures in Texas.
Almost 2k closures in a handful of years, the majority of the closures took place in metropolitan areas. Where black and Latino people tend to live in higher numbers. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
But keep crying about voter fraud that you can’t provide a single shred of evidence for outside of a handful of cases.
IF IT STOPS ONE FRAUDULENT VOTE!!1! -
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong? -
One of the places where there were long lines in the recent primary was California
Which has vote by mail. Didn't stop the Bernie bros from crying foul
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Looking at this fucking state controlled by the GOP getting away with making people stand in long voting lines.ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
I blame white supremacy.
https://apnews.com/b4f25e9b405f0beca3157a2806e34486
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I can't speak to how it's done in every state but I know in most states the counties decide on the location and the number of polling places. The counties that have these voting problems are almost always Rat run counties.RaceBannon said:One of the places where there were long lines in the recent primary was California
Which has vote by mail. Didn't stop the Bernie bros from crying foul
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Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
