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Evidence Shows Dir Gen of WHO Severely Overstated Death Rate of Coronavirus leading to global panic

DJDuck
DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
edited March 2020 in Tug Tavern
The controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu.

This egregiously false premise has led to the greatest panic in world history.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/exclusive-evidence-shows-director-general-of-world-health-organization-severely-overstated-the-fatality-rate-of-the-coronavirus-leading-to-the-greatest-global-panic-in-history/
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  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited March 2020
    Global Coronavirus Daily Deaths on Its Worst Day Is Still Less Than: Flu, Swine Flu, Malaria, AIDS, Pneumonia, Hepatitis, Tuberculosis

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/global-coronavirus-daily-deaths-on-its-worst-day-is-still-less-than-flu-swine-flu-malaria-aids-pneumonia-hepatitis-tuberculosis/
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter
    They lie. Its what they do, who they are.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    If you read the link, the death rate of confirmed flu cases is 10%. The death rate of confirmed Covid-19 cases is 3.4%. The flu death rate only drops to 0.1% once they factor in the estimated number of total flu cases (the ones that went unreported). Currently, they’re not factoring in/estimating the unreported Covid-19 cases, so it remains a death rate of confirmed cases. But, apples to apples the flu is three times deadlier. LIPO.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    It may be more spreadable than the flu. But it certainly isn't more deadly. Hardly anyone has been tested. So you can figure we have 2 to 3 times the real cases of those infected than what are being reported. But yet we still only have 90 deaths nationwide. So considering that, the overall death rate is less than 1%, even with 10,000 cases.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    It may be more spreadable than the flu. But it certainly isn't more deadly. Hardly anyone has been tested. So you can figure we have 2 to 3 times the real cases of those infected than what are being reported. But yet we still only have 90 deaths nationwide. So considering that, the overall death rate is less than 1%, even with 10,000 cases.
    But this is assuming nobody else who has it is going to die.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited March 2020
    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    And your evidence is what?

    It is not me that you should characterize as wrong it is the CDC and others. I am just reporting what they are saying. So maybe you should get your facts straight.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    DJDuck said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    And your evidence is what?

    It is not me that you should characterize as wrong it is the CDC and others. I am just reporting what they are saying. So maybe you should get your facts straight.

    You are not at all reporting what the CDC is saying. The CDC has been completely clear this is significantly worse than the flu.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    IMO logically the flu is not only more deadly but more widespread each year than Coronavirus.

    How many of you have had the flu. How many times have you had it. How many people do you know that actually have the flu every year. Now ask yourselves the same damn questions about Coronavirus FFS.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    It may be more spreadable than the flu. But it certainly isn't more deadly. Hardly anyone has been tested. So you can figure we have 2 to 3 times the real cases of those infected than what are being reported. But yet we still only have 90 deaths nationwide. So considering that, the overall death rate is less than 1%, even with 10,000 cases.
    But this is assuming nobody else who has it is going to die.
    So far we know the deaths. You don't have to test for that. That's a solid indisputable number. What we do know is there are 5,000 documented cases. When in reality there are at least 15,000. But still the deaths are the same.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2020
    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,847
    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    This. Going to a heavily right leaning website to get your sociological and epidemiological input for a pandemic that has been highly politicized could not be a better example of looking for confirmation bias.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    This. Going to a heavily right leaning website to get your sociological and epidemiological input for a pandemic that has been highly politicized could not be a better example of looking for confirmation bias.
    Yeah. Better stick with CNN.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter

    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    This. Going to a heavily right leaning website to get your sociological and epidemiological input for a pandemic that has been highly politicized could not be a better example of looking for confirmation bias.
    Yeah. Better stick with CNN.
    LOL! So true. You can throw MSNBC, PBS, ABC, CBS and NBC on the dung pile as well. Three years of being wrong.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited March 2020
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    And you know this is why people are buying toilet paper how? Another assumption profered as logic and fact.


  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    DJDuck said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    And you know this is why people are buying toilet paper how? Another assumption profered as logic and fact.


    I'm all ears for your theory.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited March 2020
    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited March 2020

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    I honestly don't disagree.

    I'm just telling you what made their idiot brains buy TP.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    I honestly don't disagree.

    I'm just telling you what made their idiot brains buy TP.
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    I honestly don't disagree.

    I'm just telling you what made their idiot brains buy TP.
    But you have absolutely no facts to back up that opinion whatsoever. You have no idea what motivates these people, whether they are uneducated or whatever. You are the biased moron here.

    Do other people here think people are hoarding TP Because they are “uneducated emotional sheep” that fear diarrhea?

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Trump's fault, right O'Keefed?