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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
    Yes. You missed it. People should get vaccinated. People should have the choice. They may also be excluded from government owned buildings as a result. That’s the governments choice.
    Nope, that’s what I thought you were saying.

    I fundamentally disagree.

    If your choices threaten my health or my families health, then you’ve infringed on my liberty.

    Still waiting for the case against immunization to be stronger than “I don’t want to”...
    Get you and your family vaccinated.

    What else do you trust the government and big pharma with? They always have you’re best interest at heart. I’m sure of it. Lets put Trump in charge of what goes into our bodies. Good idea. And yes, “i don’t want to and fuck off” is as strong as a case as needed.

    you’re the same type of nut who wants to remove peoples liberty when choosing how to protect themselves and their family. Hypocrites. My body, my choice. My self agency and ownership is more important than your family.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    1) Get vaccinated in you want to.
    2) Get your kids vaccinated if you want to.
    3)If you don’t, you’re not real bright, but who gives a fuck.
    4)My body, my choice.
    5)I’m fully vaccinated and get flu shots. So go fuck yourself. And people who don’t get flu vaccinations are also fucking retards. But I don’t give a shit.

    Fucking retards should be compelled to observe public health measures. Don’t even Libertarians agree that public health is one of those minimal governmental concerns they don’t oppose?
    My body, my choice. Take the risk, live with the consequences. If vaccines work, who cares? Yeah yeah..What about the babies and those who can’t be vaccinated.. Fuck off.. Give me the list of babies and those who can’t be vaccinated who died of the measles in the last 10 years.
    There’s a reason why we haven’t these issues in decades. We will have them moving forward. Do you have to stick your hand into the fire to know it’s a bad idea?
    Will that be before or after we all die from climate change?

    Just another bullshit prediction in a line of bullshit predictions that have been proclaimed my entire life.

    If someone chooses not to get vaccinated and gets sick. So?
    Kids don’t really make these choices. Fucked up parents do.
    The government should make more parenting decisions. Good idea. Especially with Trump running the show
    Yes, government should take the position that vaccination isn’t a choice. You do understand me.
    Big pharma and big government injecting people “for the greater good”. I’m sure Trump agrees
    I don’t know about that. Pandemics are good, and easy to win.
    And thanks to the open border policy pandemics are BACK

  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    if you have been immunized from every disease how is someone not getting immunized threatening you? They should only be threatening to those who also have not been immunized.

    Unless immunization does not work.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019
    LebamDawg said:

    if you have been immunized from every disease how is someone not getting immunized threatening you? They should only be threatening to those who also have not been immunized.

    Unless immunization does not work.

    But but but pregnant women and people with cancer!!!

    Of course they don’t address actual problems that will kill people, like Typhus. But that requires them to address the homeless problem. And they can’t do that, because that’s a result of their failed policies. So you might have to live with a typhus and Black Plague threat. But at least you’ll be forced to be vaccinated the measles. So it’s all good.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,763 Standard Supporter

    1) Get vaccinated in you want to.
    2) Get your kids vaccinated if you want to.
    3)If you don’t, you’re not real bright, but who gives a fuck.
    4)My body, my choice.
    5)I’m fully vaccinated and get flu shots. So go fuck yourself. And people who don’t get flu vaccinations are also fucking retards. But I don’t give a shit.

    If it were truly as simple as my body my choice I’d agree.

    But it’s not.
    It's that simple for drug use why not vaccines? Druggies kill a shitload of people.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    1) Get vaccinated in you want to.
    2) Get your kids vaccinated if you want to.
    3)If you don’t, you’re not real bright, but who gives a fuck.
    4)My body, my choice.
    5)I’m fully vaccinated and get flu shots. So go fuck yourself. And people who don’t get flu vaccinations are also fucking retards. But I don’t give a shit.

    If it were truly as simple as my body my choice I’d agree.

    But it’s not.
    It's that simple for drug use why not vaccines? Druggies kill a shitload of people.
    Because it’s not about saving lives. It’s about control. Some people get a hard on when it comes to control. HondoBros love it.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,763 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    1) Get vaccinated in you want to.
    2) Get your kids vaccinated if you want to.
    3)If you don’t, you’re not real bright, but who gives a fuck.
    4)My body, my choice.
    5)I’m fully vaccinated and get flu shots. So go fuck yourself. And people who don’t get flu vaccinations are also fucking retards. But I don’t give a shit.

    If it were truly as simple as my body my choice I’d agree.

    But it’s not.
    It's that simple for drug use why not vaccines? Druggies kill a shitload of people.
    Because it’s not about saving lives. It’s about control. Some people get a hard on when it comes to control. HondoBros love it.
    Of course they want ultimate control. Thinks they'll be in charge when the glorious reign of communism in Amerika comes to pass.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Wow. We’ve gone from let’s keep people from getting sick to this is a plot to control everyone faster than I thought possible.

    Well done, hive mind.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Looking forward to Damone’s “I’ll shout fire in a crowded theater because I want to!” manifesto.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited October 2019
    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinated are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Looking forward to Damone’s “I’ll shout fire in a crowded theater because I want to!” manifesto.

    You’re understanding of the constitution and self ownership is rudimentary.

    Because the government using violence to force substances into a persons body, against their will, is the same as inciting a riot. But your attempt at the false equivalency fallacy is noted.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You are infringing on the right of self ownership. If you were really worried about disease you’d want real action on the homeless.

    What amount of government violence do you advocate to preventing the measles?

    Thankfully my way is still the law of the land.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You are infringing on the right of self ownership. If you were really worried about disease you’d want real action on the homeless.

    What amount of government violence do you advocate to preventing the measles?

    Thankfully my way is still the law of the land.
    I hate the homeless. HTH
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,763 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2019

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You love illegals doing it!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You loves illegals doing it!
    Nope. They’re part of the problem. Vaccination should be a condition of entry.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You loves illegals doing it!
    Nope. They’re part of the problem. Vaccination should be a condition of entry.
    That would require controlling entry

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    So flu shots do anything?

    Maybe if you don't want the flu

    You should have better genetics
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited October 2019
    Many vaccines use aborted baby parts. As well as many other questionable ingredients. Go screw yourself.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
    Yes. You missed it. People should get vaccinated. People should have the choice. They may also be excluded from government owned buildings as a result. That’s the governments choice.
    Agree with the first part. Disagree with the latter. The government owns nothing. The government is owned by the people. Therefore the government doesn't have the right to prevent the unvaccinated from entering government building that their taxpayer dollars pay for.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
    Yes. You missed it. People should get vaccinated. People should have the choice. They may also be excluded from government owned buildings as a result. That’s the governments choice.
    Nope, that’s what I thought you were saying.

    I fundamentally disagree.

    If your choices threaten my health or my families health, then you’ve infringed on my liberty.

    Still waiting for the case against immunization to be stronger than “I don’t want to”...
    You and your family have the choice to stay home. Put on your tin foil hats and be stay sequestered in a bunker if you're that scared of catching the sniffles.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,763 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    If I'm vaccinated, why should I give a single fuck if others do? What argument are you trying to make? The only people effected by others getting or not getting vaccinations are the idiots that don't get vaccinated in the first place.

    Unfortunately that isn’t true. But to be fair that is a widely held misconception.

    I think Damone thought that a few hours ago too. Which is why he said the same thing before trying to pivot to body counts and personal liberty.

    But apparently I’m infringing on the rights of the individual to spread preventable disease.
    You loves illegals doing it!
    Nope. They’re part of the problem. Vaccination should be a condition of entry.
    Who's going to vaccinate then in the middle of the Rio Grande?

    Shmartt you are!
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Are we checking to see if the illegals have their shots? How many of the growing number are kids of illegals?


  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    @ThomasFremont supports open borders but is against communicable diseases. Seems to me like those two positions don't really jive.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,763 Standard Supporter
    How does Japan survive?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club

    Are we checking to see if the illegals have their shots? How many of the growing number are kids of illegals?

    No clue. Ask Paws.
    How the fuck would I know?



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGoOegtBq-o
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    @ThomasFremont supports open borders but is against communicable diseases. Seems to me like those two positions don't really jive.

    I don’t support open borders you fucking peon.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076

    @ThomasFremont supports open borders but is against communicable diseases. Seems to me like those two positions don't really jive.

    I don’t support open borders you fucking peon.
    Chinned for the use of ‘peon’. Good word. Needs to make a comeback.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club

    @ThomasFremont supports open borders but is against communicable diseases. Seems to me like those two positions don't really jive.

    I don’t support open borders you fucking peon.
    You seem to vote for people that you claim you dont agree with on anything

    Kind of odd IMO