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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.
    I know all about herd immunity and it doesn’t trump individual liberty and the right to self ownership.

    I know you love big government and big pharma. But as long as the government can be run by people like trump, Pelosi, Sanders etc and big pharma is in their pockets, is like the option to opt out.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.
    I know all about herd immunity and it doesn’t trump individual liberty and gen right to self ownership.
    Personal liberty argument is pretty weak since failure to immunize threatens the liberty of those around you.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,052 Standard Supporter

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.

    It worked with you for awhile.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.

    It worked with you for awhile.

    Huh?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2019

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
    Yes. You missed it. People should get vaccinated. People should have the choice. They may also be excluded from government owned buildings as a result. That’s the governments choice.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    People at risk when people don’t immunize:

    Children
    The elderly
    Immune compromised aka pregnant women and people fighting cancer.

    It’s not my
    Body my choice unless you’re proposing we isolate these people so they can’t harm the general population.


    Can I get the list of elderly, pregnant wake and people fighting cancer who died of the measles in the last 10 years?

    Who wouldn’t the elderly, pregnant women and people fighting cancer not be vaccinated before they got old, pregnant or cancer. If that was their choice?
    Google herd immunity.

    I’m talking about vaccinated people that are immune compromised due to another issue such as illness, age, or pregnancy.

    Greatest number of new cases since 1992. Yes, some of this is immigrant populations with no vaccines/healthcare where they are from. Some of it is also stupid housewives that think celebrities know more about science and health than doctors.

    Can I get the list of deaths? Or is it zero?
    100,000 per year. Down from millions per year before vaccinations became commonplace. 1/1000 die from it.

    Polio isn’t deadly, are you saying we shouldn’t vaccinate for it?
    Yeah, 100k. Also the same counties where tens of thousands die from diarrhea

    Hell of a pivot you did there. Where did I ever say “we” shouldn’t vaccinate against polio or anything. People should. I’m thinking you missed the argument and for some reason decided to argue a point that was never made.

    I got a flu shot today. Do you get them? The flu actually kills tens of thousands in the US every year. Yet the forced vaccine crowd backs down pretty fast when you include flu shots. Why?
    Yes I get a flu shot. I think everyone should.

    What’s your point, since I obviously missed it.
    Yes. You missed it. People should get vaccinated. People should have the choice. They may also be excluded from government owned buildings as a result. That’s the governments choice.
    Nope, that’s what I thought you were saying.

    I fundamentally disagree.

    If your choices threaten my health or my families health, then you’ve infringed on my liberty.

    Still waiting for the case against immunization to be stronger than “I don’t want to”...