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  • Fear_Boner
    Fear_Boner Member Posts: 808
    Whatever, I’m excited about Curne.
  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 863
    I do buy that in Texas, there will be X percentage of kids who want to get the fuck out of there - for whatever reason they just want out. By definition that means they'll be going to an out of region programs who would otherwise bat a low % in Texas. Why the fuck wouldn't we want that to be us?
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    I do buy that in Texas, there will be X percentage of kids who want to get the fuck out of there - for whatever reason they just want out. By definition that means they'll be going to an out of region programs who would otherwise bat a low % in Texas. Why the fuck wouldn't we want that to be us?

    Because then they go to the SEC.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    The question always comes down to what the cost is

    The argument against recruiting Texas is that we can be doing better in California. But who in California are we really missing on?

    I get all the arguments but the reality is that culture and fit matter a lot to this staff. Those that receive what we are about will gravitate towards us. Those that don’t wont.

    Ultimately the key in Texas is gaining traction. Getting a player like Levi is huge. As the Texas players on our roster produce and get to the league our reputation will only further grow there.

    Until there’s tangible evidence that our efforts in Texas are wasted, then it’s a worthwhile INVESTMENT for the program to make if they deem that they have the resources to devote to it
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    If we are not getting players that are hard to come by in California or the west coast then I don't see the value in it. Mainly linebackers and edge players and maybe skill players on offense sometimes depending on the year.

    Cooper McDonald seems like someone we could have found an equivilent to imo closer to uw.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Tequilla said:

    The question always comes down to what the cost is

    The argument against recruiting Texas is that we can be doing better in California. But who in California are we really missing on?

    I get all the arguments but the reality is that culture and fit matter a lot to this staff. Those that receive what we are about will gravitate towards us. Those that don’t wont.

    Ultimately the key in Texas is gaining traction. Getting a player like Levi is huge. As the Texas players on our roster produce and get to the league our reputation will only further grow there.

    Until there’s tangible evidence that our efforts in Texas are wasted, then it’s a worthwhile INVESTMENT for the program to make if they deem that they have the resources to devote to it

    Yeah I don't get the argument that resources are wasted by recruiting Texas. Take LSU. People should say that they are wasting resources by recruiting California and Utah. Two non-traditional areas for them. But that has resulted in them getting Elias Ricks and Siaki Ika the last two cycles. Yes Orgeron has connections in Cali but Petersen has the same connections in Texas as he has been recruiting there forever. Also if UW continues to be nationally relevant that exposure does some of the initial footwork needed to get the attention of Texas recruits. People make it sound like it's some kind of big time allocation devoted to Texas when it's just not true. If it's 5% of your recruiting allocation time and you pull 1 out of 20 kids in a recruiting cycle that sounds okay to me. And as you get better the quality of that 1 recruit also gets better.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club
    whuggy said:

    Tequilla said:

    The question always comes down to what the cost is

    The argument against recruiting Texas is that we can be doing better in California. But who in California are we really missing on?

    I get all the arguments but the reality is that culture and fit matter a lot to this staff. Those that receive what we are about will gravitate towards us. Those that don’t wont.

    Ultimately the key in Texas is gaining traction. Getting a player like Levi is huge. As the Texas players on our roster produce and get to the league our reputation will only further grow there.

    Until there’s tangible evidence that our efforts in Texas are wasted, then it’s a worthwhile INVESTMENT for the program to make if they deem that they have the resources to devote to it

    Yeah I don't get the argument that resources are wasted by recruiting Texas. Take LSU. People should say that they are wasting resources by recruiting California and Utah. Two non-traditional areas for them. But that has resulted in them getting Elias Ricks and Siaki Ika the last two cycles. Yes Orgeron has connections in Cali but Petersen has the same connections in Texas as he has been recruiting there forever. Also if UW continues to be nationally relevant that exposure does some of the initial footwork needed to get the attention of Texas recruits. People make it sound like it's some kind of big time allocation devoted to Texas when it's just not true. If it's 5% of your recruiting allocation time and you pull 1 out of 20 kids in a recruiting cycle that sounds okay to me. And as you get better the quality of that 1 recruit also gets better.
    Except those are elite talents of which there are few in the nation. UW isn't going after kids like that in Texas. They are recruiting mostly "diamonds in the rough" or guys who are overlooked etc.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited August 2019
    Tequilla said:

    The question always comes down to what the cost is

    The argument against recruiting Texas is that we can be doing better in California. But who in California are we really missing on?

    I get all the arguments but the reality is that culture and fit matter a lot to this staff. Those that receive what we are about will gravitate towards us. Those that don’t wont.

    Ultimately the key in Texas is gaining traction. Getting a player like Levi is huge. As the Texas players on our roster produce and get to the league our reputation will only further grow there.

    Until there’s tangible evidence that our efforts in Texas are wasted, then it’s a worthwhile INVESTMENT for the program to make if they deem that they have the resources to devote to it

    Lots of twisting out here.

    In any organization the person pitching the new INVESTMENT must prove its worthwhile not vice versa. What are they teaching at TCU these days?

    In terms of resources it isn't about the money. Its about the coaches' time.

    Especially those coaches that aren't as successful on the recruiting front and may suffer the most with less time to devote to their west coast targets.

    The position where we have by far the most disproportionate percentage of offers out in Texas the next two classes? RB.

    The same position where our highest rated and most nationally coveted target supposedly wasn't hearing much from UW.