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There was also Jaramillo, Jones, Sala and Denis.StrongArmCobra said:
Oregon hasn't been getting 4-star talent on the O-line for years and it hasn't changed under Cristobal. Sewell in one class and Jonah T in another is nothing. That's Sark level O-line recruiting.lawsandl said:StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
There’s a shit ton of talent everywhere. Do you honestly think that because of one class that Oregon will stop getting 4 star talent on the OL? -
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC. -
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC. -
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily, and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC. -
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC. -
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season. Oregon would have lost to them too.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC. -
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
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Not only that but NW made some tremendous 2nd half adjustments. They starting keying Shelley and contained him in the pocket, they delayed routes underneath in the passing game and started running outside. It was better coaching in every way.creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb. -
Lol at haie carrying the Pac12’s water despite it clearly being the worst p5 conference (and it really has been for the last decade)
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Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them.creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
How long did it take you to do the research and write this? You must just be lurking here 24/7 waiting to lunge at any opportunity to prove ballz wrong about some irrelevant minutia. You'll take that bait every time. You want a gold star? -
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
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Was it Whittingham that beat Bama?ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
He’s a good coach. He has some real deficits though that will handicap his team. Nobody wants to work with him for any length of time. At some point, the assistant carousel is on him. If it’s Utah not paying and he were elite, he’d be somewhere else. -
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else -
I think most assistants would much rather work for Whittingham than Cristobal.lawsandl said:
Was it Whittingham that beat Bama?ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
He’s a good coach. He has some real deficits though that will handicap his team. Nobody wants to work with him for any length of time. At some point, the assistant carousel is on him. If it’s Utah not paying and he were elite, he’d be somewhere else. -
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
There is nothing to suggest this except the thought in your brain.StrongArmCobra said:
I think most assistants would much rather work for Whittingham than Cristobal.lawsandl said:
Was it Whittingham that beat Bama?ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
He’s a good coach. He has some real deficits though that will handicap his team. Nobody wants to work with him for any length of time. At some point, the assistant carousel is on him. If it’s Utah not paying and he were elite, he’d be somewhere else. -
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
TBF the only counter-point I would make is that the ACC is Clemson and some shitty-used to be good Florida teams. The Pac 12 is probably better team for team but is missing the banner bearer at the top.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
Except for Leavitt and Dennison quickly getting sick of his ass and Heyward dusting off his resume. Cristobal is an over-demanding prick who requires a ridiculous amount of energy and teen boy dick sucking by his staff. It grows old for guys after a couple years.lawsandl said:
There is nothing to suggest this except the thought in your brain.StrongArmCobra said:
I think most assistants would much rather work for Whittingham than Cristobal.lawsandl said:
Was it Whittingham that beat Bama?ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
He’s a good coach. He has some real deficits though that will handicap his team. Nobody wants to work with him for any length of time. At some point, the assistant carousel is on him. If it’s Utah not paying and he were elite, he’d be somewhere else. -
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover but they'll be back after a few years of stability with Mario. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games and those other schools won't get better with coaching stability as well.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches. -
Leach won his bowl game.lawsandl said:
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is. So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from? -
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.StrongArmCobra said:
Leach won his bowl game.lawsandl said:
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from? -
No it's not. USC has one of the top-2 most talented rosters in the conference and Stanford has a proven head coach and an NFL QB as well. You'd rather play them at home compared to others in the conference. You're going full retard right now. I'm gonna laugh so hard when Oregon starts losing a bunch of games this season to those so called "mediocre" teams.lawsandl said:
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.StrongArmCobra said:
Leach won his bowl game.lawsandl said:
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from? -
Daniels will have to carry that team. USC went 5-7 and the roster is getting less talented, especially in the front seven and OL.StrongArmCobra said:
No it's not. USC has one of the top-2 most talented rosters in the conference and Stanford has a proven head coach and an NFL QB as well. You'd rather play them at home compared to others in the conference. You're going full retard right now. I'm gonna laugh so hard when Oregon starts losing a bunch of games this season to those so called "mediocre" teams.lawsandl said:
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.StrongArmCobra said:
Leach won his bowl game.lawsandl said:
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.StrongArmCobra said:
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.lawsandl said:
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.StrongArmCobra said:
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.ntxduck said:
Pac 12 Last 3 yearsStrongArmCobra said:
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.ntxduck said:
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games....StrongArmCobra said:
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?creepycoug said:
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.StrongArmCobra said:
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.lawsandl said:
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.StrongArmCobra said:
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.lawsandl said:
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.StrongArmCobra said:
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.lawsandl said:
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?StrongArmCobra said:
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.lawsandl said:
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.StrongArmCobra said:
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.lawsandl said:
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.StrongArmCobra said:
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilariousDJDuck said:StrongArmCobra said:LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
7-5 Georgia Tech
8-5 Tulsa
8-5 Navy
12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win)
8-5 Cal
8-5 Georgia Tech
10-2 Colorado State
9-4 BYU
6-7 Indiana
7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
2018: 3-4 in bowls
2017: 1-8 in bowls
2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from? -
Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
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This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.StrongArmCobra said:Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
Who do they have in the trenches? -
D-line they got Brandon Pili, Marlon Tuipulotu, Jay Tufele, Caleb Tremblay, and apparently true Freshman sensation Drake Jackson.lawsandl said:
This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.StrongArmCobra said:Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
Who do they have in the trenches?
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon and will run an air raid offense which is an offense Oregon has struggled to stop against WSU. This air raid offense will be loaded with 5-star receivers compared to the JAGs WSU has. USC being a much more talented version of WSU is bad news for Oregon. -
Say, 34-17?StrongArmCobra said:Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
