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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    C'mon Creep, see past your orange and green glasses. The ACC resorts to SEC esque-schedule mandering and has no one nationally relevant besides Clemson.



    I agree the Pac12 is down but not that much more so than everyone not named the SEC as the national #script likes to pretend. Fucking Northwestern was beating up the Big 10 too and I'm NOT here to tell you they were any good.
    I know the ACC sucks. I'm just questioning your team for team comment. Is Cal better than Virginia Tech? Fuck I don't know. Is Arizona better than Miami? I really can't say. I'm just saying I see a lot of C - students in each conference when you get past the top of the class.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    No it's not. USC has one of the top-2 most talented rosters in the conference and Stanford has a proven head coach and an NFL QB as well. You'd rather play them at home compared to others in the conference. You're going full retard right now. I'm gonna laugh so hard when Oregon starts losing a bunch of games this season to those so called "mediocre" teams.
    He didn't say Oregon was going to beat all those teams. Oregon could lose to every Pac 12 team this season and all of those teams could still prove out to be mediocre. False binary.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited August 2019
    Right. Oregon has issues to shore up. However, if you told me USC and Stanford or Zona and Wazzu at home. Right now I am saying the latter. I would bet the point differential swings in our favor more since they’re tougher away venues. Also, it’s most likely Wazzu is the best of the four and I wouldn’t confidently pick either USC/Stanford over Zona.

    USC is breaking in 3.5 OL starters and I don’t expect them to recover if things don’t start well.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    @oregonblitzkrieg Truth hurts. Enjoy the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl this season.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    edited August 2019

    @oregonblitzkrieg Truth hurts. Enjoy the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl this season.

    No, he just wants you to shut up. Everybody does.

    But that was a GOOD Northwestern team. :D

    That's how we know the Pac 12 doesn't suck.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited August 2019

    No, he just wants you to shut up. Everybody does.

    But that was a GOOD Northwestern team. :D

    That's how we know the Pac 12 doesn't suck.
    Yeah, I consider a team that finishes 2nd in the Big-10 a pretty good team. They were basically the Utah of the Big-10 so naturally it was a closely contested game. Utah could have ran away with it but they let them back in the game and choked. It happens. Wasn't worse than Oregon's debacle against TCU but it happens.

    I never denied the Pac-12 has been down in terms of non-conference competitiveness in recent years. My point is there was a reason for it and that reason has been addressed. Any Oregon fan looking at the rest of the conference as mostly a cake walk for Oregon in the years to come is a total idiot. Oregon can't even beat WSU, UW is going to be a powerhouse, Stanford is consistently a 9-10 win team, and Cal now plays defense which will keep them competitive in most of their games. Down south Utah is obviously getting better every year. They play defense and put guys in the league. Obviously Chip Kelly knows what he's doing and UCLA will easily surpass what they were under Mora in a year or two. Herm looks like he can coach too. There is no cake walk for Oregon going forward. Most games in this conference are going to be a dawg fight and that includes for UW. There are very few easy wins to be had.

    Idiots look at the recruiting rankings and say "obviously UW and Oregon are going to be the top-dawgs in the conference" and it's retarded. UW? Sure, we have a proven head coach. Oregon doesn't. They've been recruiting at a way higher level than WSU the past four years and have lost to them every single time. You have to have both the talent and the coaching and Cristobal is unproven as a coach so it's stupid to pencil in Oregon as a top-dawg until Cristobal proves he's not another Clay Helton-type moron riding the back of a future NFL QB he didn't sign.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    Yeah, I consider a team that finishes 2nd in the Big-10 a pretty good team. They were basically the Utah of the Big-10 so naturally it was a closely contested game. Utah could have ran away with it but they let them back in the game and choked. It happens. Wasn't worse than Oregon's debacle against TCU but it happens.

    I never denied the Pac-12 has been down in terms of non-conference competitiveness in recent years. My point is there was a reason for it and that reason has been addressed. Any Oregon fan looking at the rest of the conference as mostly a cake walk for Oregon in the years to come is a total idiot. Oregon can't even beat WSU, UW is going to be a powerhouse, Stanford is consistently a 9-10 win team, and Cal now plays defense which will keep them competitive in most of their games. Down south Utah is obviously getting better every year. They play defense and put guys in the league. Obviously Chip Kelly knows what he's doing and UCLA will easily surpass what they were under Mora in a year or two. Herm looks like he can coach too. There is no cake walk for Oregon going forward. Most games in this conference are going to be a dawg fight and that includes for UW. There are very few easy wins to be had.

    Idiots look at the recruiting rankings and say "obviously UW and Oregon are going to be the top-dawgs in the conference" and it's retarded. UW? Sure, we have a proven head coach. Oregon doesn't. They've been recruiting at a way higher level than WSU the past four years and have lost to them every single time. You have to have both the talent and the coaching and Cristobal is unproven as a coach so it's stupid to pencil in Oregon as a top-dawg until Cristobal proves he's not another Clay Helton-type moron riding the back of a future NFL QB he didn't sign.
    You talk too much and contradict yourself. You’re the idiot you’re railing against.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited August 2019
    I can’t stop myself from responding to this fuckery.

    Utah was physically more capable than NW. Utah didn’t adjust and NW did. NW had an 11 point lead going into the 4th and that’s how it ended. There was no miracle finish. Utah got bitch slapped in the third quarter.

    Whittingham got out coached.

    The same thing is happening to you in this thread.

    Stop being a dumb fuck and listen.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited August 2019
    lawsandl said:

    You talk too much and contradict yourself. You’re the idiot you’re railing against.
    No contradictions man. That was a mic drop post. Thank you, come again.
  • DuckMayneDuckMayne Member Posts: 29

    Yeah, I consider a team that finishes 2nd in the Big-10 a pretty good team. They were basically the Utah of the Big-10 so naturally it was a closely contested game. Utah could have ran away with it but they let them back in the game and choked. It happens. Wasn't worse than Oregon's debacle against TCU but it happens.

    I never denied the Pac-12 has been down in terms of non-conference competitiveness in recent years. My point is there was a reason for it and that reason has been addressed. Any Oregon fan looking at the rest of the conference as mostly a cake walk for Oregon in the years to come is a total idiot. Oregon can't even beat WSU, UW is going to be a powerhouse, Stanford is consistently a 9-10 win team, and Cal now plays defense which will keep them competitive in most of their games. Down south Utah is obviously getting better every year. They play defense and put guys in the league. Obviously Chip Kelly knows what he's doing and UCLA will easily surpass what they were under Mora in a year or two. Herm looks like he can coach too. There is no cake walk for Oregon going forward. Most games in this conference are going to be a dawg fight and that includes for UW. There are very few easy wins to be had.

    Idiots look at the recruiting rankings and say "obviously UW and Oregon are going to be the top-dawgs in the conference" and it's retarded. UW? Sure, we have a proven head coach. Oregon doesn't. They've been recruiting at a way higher level than WSU the past four years and have lost to them every single time. You have to have both the talent and the coaching and Cristobal is unproven as a coach so it's stupid to pencil in Oregon as a top-dawg until Cristobal proves he's not another Clay Helton-type moron riding the back of a future NFL QB he didn't sign.
    Washington is going to be a powerhouse?!?!? What are you on? When is this going to happen?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    edited August 2019

    Yeah, I consider a team that finishes 2nd in the Big-10 a pretty good team. They were basically the Utah of the Big-10 so naturally it was a closely contested game. Utah could have ran away with it but they let them back in the game and choked. It happens. Wasn't worse than Oregon's debacle against TCU but it happens.

    I never denied the Pac-12 has been down in terms of non-conference competitiveness in recent years. My point is there was a reason for it and that reason has been addressed. Any Oregon fan looking at the rest of the conference as mostly a cake walk for Oregon in the years to come is a total idiot. Oregon can't even beat WSU, UW is going to be a powerhouse, Stanford is consistently a 9-10 win team, and Cal now plays defense which will keep them competitive in most of their games. Down south Utah is obviously getting better every year. They play defense and put guys in the league. Obviously Chip Kelly knows what he's doing and UCLA will easily surpass what they were under Mora in a year or two. Herm looks like he can coach too. There is no cake walk for Oregon going forward. Most games in this conference are going to be a dawg fight and that includes for UW. There are very few easy wins to be had.

    Idiots look at the recruiting rankings and say "obviously UW and Oregon are going to be the top-dawgs in the conference" and it's retarded. UW? Sure, we have a proven head coach. Oregon doesn't. They've been recruiting at a way higher level than WSU the past four years and have lost to them every single time. You have to have both the talent and the coaching and Cristobal is unproven as a coach so it's stupid to pencil in Oregon as a top-dawg until Cristobal proves he's not another Clay Helton-type moron riding the back of a future NFL QB he didn't sign.
    I think this only exists in your mind. Most people understand conference games are unpredictable; and no reasonable fan has Oregon penciled in for anything. You let the fringe bother you too much. The rest is conjecture, rationalized bias and emphasis on relatively unimportant points. P12 sucks until it doesn't, including Oregon. Keep it simple.

    Edwards lost six games and lost to Fresno State in the LV Bowl. Kelly hasn't done shit and encore performances fail at least as often as they succeed. I'll wait that one out. Wilcox? 1/2 a team. Oregon handled them thoroughly.

    Cristobal stepped into a shit show and went 9-4 and beat the conference champs. He was in every loss but one, arguably two. Utah "basically beat" Northwestern in a game they lost by 11? Then you gotta give MC the moral victory for Stanford - a game that unraveled in spectacular fashion at the very end. One play away from nailing the coffin.

    Oregon got better, everybody knows it, and then he followed that with a great recruiting class. If these facts were happening at Washington there would be no shutting you up. Hang him for Arizona and WSU? Sure. No argument. But then don't come tell me "but Utah" who lost to a loser team that couldn't handle Akron at home and "6 loss Herm can coach". GTFO with that selective ass reasoning.

    You just have a bias. No big deal; it's your thing.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,811 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2019

    I think this only exists in your mind. Most people understand conference games are unpredictable; and no reasonable fan has Oregon penciled in for anything. You let the fringe bother you too much. The rest is conjecture, rationalized bias and emphasis on relatively unimportant points. P12 sucks until it doesn't, including Oregon. Keep it simple.

    Edwards lost six games and lost to Fresno State in the LV Bowl. Kelly hasn't done shit and encore performances fail at least as often as they succeed. I'll wait that one out. Wilcox? 1/2 a team. Oregon handled them thoroughly.

    Cristobal stepped into a shit show and went 9-4 and beat the conference champs. He was in every loss but one, arguably two. Utah "basically beat" Northwestern in a game they lost by 11? Then you gotta give MC the moral victory for Stanford - a game that unraveled in spectacular fashion at the very end. One play away from nailing the coffin.

    Oregon got better, everybody knows it, and then he followed that with a great recruiting class. If these facts were happening at Washington there would be no shutting you up. Hang him for Arizona and WSU? Sure. No argument. But then don't come tell me "but Utah" who lost to a loser team that couldn't handle Akron at home and "6 loss Herm can coach". GTFO with that selective ass reasoning.

    You just have a bias. No big deal; it's your thing.

    There's about three of those on the Duck bored and Duckmayne and DJ aren't them.


  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807
    edited August 2019

    No contradictions man. That was a mic drop post. Thank you, come again.
    It was a terrible post. As I just demonstrated. Usually the guy who drops the mic doesn't come back and tell the audience he dropped the mic. They know if it happened.

    6-loss Herm can coach? Great.

    Moral victories against Akron/Duke-loser Northwestern? Chalk it up.

    Cal plays TUFF defense? Oregon laid 42 on them at Berkeley with their retard QB, and left another easy 14 on the table.

    Oregon got better. Whether they'll get better again remains to be seen.

    I'd worry less about the P12, which is verifiable dog shit right now, and worry more about whether Pete can beat the big boys in January. Because everybody knows those last two losses had some 4th quarter lipstick applied to make them a little less ugly.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,811 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2019

    I think this only exists in your mind. Most people understand conference games are unpredictable; and no reasonable fan has Oregon penciled in for anything. You let the fringe bother you too much. The rest is conjecture, rationalized bias and emphasis on relatively unimportant points. P12 sucks until it doesn't, including Oregon. Keep it simple.

    Edwards lost six games and lost to Fresno State in the LV Bowl. Kelly hasn't done shit and encore performances fail at least as often as they succeed. I'll wait that one out. Wilcox? 1/2 a team. Oregon handled them thoroughly.

    Cristobal stepped into a shit show and went 9-4 and beat the conference champs. He was in every loss but one, arguably two. Utah "basically beat" Northwestern in a game they lost by 11? Then you gotta give MC the moral victory for Stanford - a game that unraveled in spectacular fashion at the very end. One play away from nailing the coffin.

    Oregon got better, everybody knows it, and then he followed that with a great recruiting class. If these facts were happening at Washington there would be no shutting you up. Hang him for Arizona and WSU? Sure. No argument. But then don't come tell me "but Utah" who lost to a loser team that couldn't handle Akron at home and "6 loss Herm can coach". GTFO with that selective ass reasoning.

    You just have a bias. No big deal; it's your thing.

    And c'mon man 9-4? I heard Mario should be fired if he didn't go 9-3 regular season with their cupcake OOC, soft schedule, and talent already in the cupboard. I guess beating Worshington and a team with no offense in the Red Box Bowl make up for that. That's some serious little brother, "Sark beat #2 USC" if I ever heard it. You also can't shit all over the conference and Washington then turn around and use those wins to justify Mario being a good head coach.

    I'm not sure Oregon can do better by replacing him but let's not pretend Mario has done anything to actually justify quooking about the future. LIPO is the best argument you can make.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    It was a terrible post. As I just demonstrated. Usually the guy who drops the mic doesn't come back and tell the audience he dropped the mic. They know if it happened.

    6-loss Herm can coach? Great.

    Moral victories against Akron/Duke-loser Northwestern? Chalk it up.

    Cal plays TUFF defense? Oregon laid 42 on them at Berkeley with their retard QB, and left another easy 14 on the table.

    Oregon got better. Whether they'll get better again remains to be seen.

    I'd worry less about the P12, which is verifiable dog shit right now, and worry more about whether Pete can beat the big boys in January. Because everybody knows those last two losses had some 4th quarter lipstick applied to make them a little less ugly.
    The goalposts change with SAC constantly. The PAC is getting better because of coaching stability but coaching instability at Oregon doesn’t excuse losses @WSU and @Zona. This year will tell us a lot about Cristobal.
  • PetermanPeterman Member Posts: 675
    Per advanced metrics consensus Oregon was worse in 2018 than they were in 2017, not everyone puts stock in those metrics but interesting none the less
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Peterman said:

    Per advanced metrics consensus Oregon was worse in 2018 than they were in 2017, not everyone puts stock in those metrics but interesting none the less

    I think they were but they totally changed their scheme on offense. This year is probably a good baseline for Cristobal.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,807

    And c'mon man 9-4? I heard Mario should be fired if he didn't go 9-3 regular season with their cupcake OOC, soft schedule, and talent already in the cupboard. I guess beating Worshington and a team with no offense in the Red Box Bowl make up for that. That's some serious little brother, "Sark beat #2 USC" if I ever heard it. You also can't shit all over the conference and Washington then turn around and use those wins to justify Mario being a good head coach.

    I'm not sure Oregon can do better by replacing him but let's not pretend Mario has done anything to actually justify quooking about the future. LIPO is the best argument you can make.
    I fear you missed the point of that point. That the conference is shit is simply a fact. I assume you don't want to burn any gas on that point.

    I've got a guy here apologizing for Utah and their moral victories, and telling me Herm can coach. I've got the same guy telling me Cristobal has done nothing to show he can coach. Cristobal beat 6-loss Herm, and Pete and Wilcox, and has his own moral victory to waive around since we're apparently buying into those now. He had one, maybe two, shit shows during the season. He recruited lights out afterward.

    It's not world beater material by any means, but he just fucking got there.

    As I said, false binaries, selective rationalizations and emphasis on unimportant facts. We can lampoon Crisco all day for Arizona and WSU, but then every single other coach in the conference, including Pete, have some splaining to do about their own shit shows.

    And just to clear this up: anybody who thinks Oregon is a lock for anything is fucking stupid. But is it quooking to say they're trending in a good direction? I don't think so. Fuck, Pete was 4th in the North in year 2. Oregon was objectively better last season, and the program had been in shambles. There were better in almost every phase, disciplinary shit like penalties improved and MC validated his rep as a good recruiter. Like I said to ballz: if these facts were happening at Washington in the same context, people here would be very excited and hopeful. I've no doubt about it.

    Of course it's LIPO. What else could it be?
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