LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover but they'll be back after a few years of stability with Mario. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games and those other schools won't get better with coaching stability as well.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.
Leach won his bowl game.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is. So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from?
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.
Leach won his bowl game.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from?
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.
Leach won his bowl game.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from?
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.
No it's not. USC has one of the top-2 most talented rosters in the conference and Stanford has a proven head coach and an NFL QB as well. You'd rather play them at home compared to others in the conference. You're going full retard right now. I'm gonna laugh so hard when Oregon starts losing a bunch of games this season to those so called "mediocre" teams.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
Like I already said. The conference has been going through a lot of head coaching turnover and rebuilds which explains the poor bowl performances overall. Now that the conference has head coaching stability again across the board we'll see that improve. I know you want the rest of the conference to suck because you don't have that much faith in Cristobal as an actual coach but that's not going to be the case. Oregon has to deal with Petersen, Leach, Shaw, and Wilcox. Those guys know what they're doing and those teams won't be easy wins for Oregon as long as those coaches are there. Get used to it.
You’re making excuses. Leach, Whittingham and Shaw are what they are. Leagues are always going to recycle coaches.
Lol the irony! I was told Oregon has been down recently due to so much coaching turnover. But when the same thing happens at a lot of other Pac-12 schools it's an excuse for the conference not winning bowl games.
4 of the 5 coaches you mentioned by name are tenured coaches in the league you dolt. Wilcox is the only one that gets a pass.
Leach won his bowl game.
Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is? So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from?
This started because you acted like playing at Stanford and USC make the schedule that much harder. Since this league is so mediocre, you really have no idea what teams you want on the road or at home. Arizona and Wazzu could be harder to beat than USC and Stanford. In fact, it’s totally reasonable.
No it's not. USC has one of the top-2 most talented rosters in the conference and Stanford has a proven head coach and an NFL QB as well. You'd rather play them at home compared to others in the conference. You're going full retard right now. I'm gonna laugh so hard when Oregon starts losing a bunch of games this season to those so called "mediocre" teams.
Daniels will have to carry that team. USC went 5-7 and the roster is getting less talented, especially in the front seven and OL.
Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.
Who do they have in the trenches?
D-line they got Brandon Pili, Marlon Tuipulotu, Jay Tufele, Caleb Tremblay, and apparently true Freshman sensation Drake Jackson.
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon and will run an air raid offense which is an offense Oregon has struggled to stop against WSU. This air raid offense will be loaded with 5-star receivers compared to the JAGs WSU has. USC being a much more talented version of WSU is bad news for Oregon.
Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.
Who do they have in the trenches?
D-line they got Brandon Pili, Marlon Tuipulotu, Jay Tufele, Caleb Tremblay, and apparently true Freshman sensation Drake Jackson.
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon.
I know the names. I’ve studied the depth chart. Outside of Austin Jackson, none of them are scary. They got rid of both line coaches. It will take time to undo the damage Helton created. Guys weren’t working out and played didn’t respect coaches.
Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.
Who do they have in the trenches?
D-line they got Brandon Pili, Marlon Tuipulotu, Jay Tufele, Caleb Tremblay, and apparently true Freshman sensation Drake Jackson.
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon.
I know the names. I’ve studied the depth chart. Outside of Austin Jackson, none of them are scary. They got rid of both line coaches. It will take time to undo the damage Helton created. Guys weren’t working out and played didn’t respect coaches.
It won't take time. USC wins 9 games easily no matter who their head coach is. They will bounce back and they'll beat Oregon easily which isn't saying much because Oregon will go 7-5.
Keeping dreaming. USC will beat Oregon rather easily.
This is some doog dreaming here. Helton has lost institutional control. That team will have imploded by November.
Who do they have in the trenches?
D-line they got Brandon Pili, Marlon Tuipulotu, Jay Tufele, Caleb Tremblay, and apparently true Freshman sensation Drake Jackson.
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon.
I know the names. I’ve studied the depth chart. Outside of Austin Jackson, none of them are scary. They got rid of both line coaches. It will take time to undo the damage Helton created. Guys weren’t working out and players didn’t respect coaches.
It won't take time. USC wins 9 games easily no matter who their head coach is. They will bounce back and they'll beat Oregon easily which isn't saying much because Oregon will go 7-5.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them.
How long did it take you to do the research and write this? You must just be lurking here 24/7 waiting to lunge at any opportunity to prove ballz wrong about some irrelevant minutia. You'll take that bait every time. You want a gold star?
Then you should have just made that fucking point and used one of these: .
But you didn't. Instead, you got basic facts fucked up and engaged in some mighty loozerish rationalizing and once again impugned your credibility.
How long did it take me? To know that NW didn't win the Big 10 last season? Zero seconds. To look up NW's 2018 season results? 7 seconds. Are those your questions?
And now it's the 'I'm just baiting you' routine? Lolz.
And you wonder why every single other poster on this board, including some pretty fervent Washington fans, thinks you are a giant dumb fuck. I've not come across anyone who doubles down on retard quite like you. And I knew krisvashon for Christ's sake.
USC is breaking in a new scheme. They had serious staff turnover. The guy leading the team is feckless. Also, Harrell didn’t even run the offense at UNT. They’re a joke.
They lost a lot off the team and didn’t develop. They are picked to win 7 by Vegas for a reason.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Was it Whittingham that beat Bama?
He’s a good coach. He has some real deficits though that will handicap his team. Nobody wants to work with him for any length of time. At some point, the assistant carousel is on him. If it’s Utah not paying and he were elite, he’d be somewhere else.
I think most assistants would much rather work for Whittingham than Cristobal.
There is nothing to suggest this except the thought in your brain.
Except for Leavitt and Dennison quickly getting sick of his ass and Heyward dusting off his resume. Cristobal is an over-demanding prick who requires a ridiculous amount of energy and teen boy dick sucking by his staff. It grows old for guys after a couple years.
Is that the new story line? He's too demanding?
I see you've found new made up material.
Leavitt was pissed about not getting the job and probably brooded about it. He's a good coordinator, and I (and you) have no idea what was going on in the background of the 'firing', but if there's a story, that's the story.
If he's too demanding, then I'd say that's a good sign for Oregon fans. I hear Helfrich was a really easy going guy. Too bad they let him go huh?
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
TBF the only counter-point I would make is that the ACC is Clemson and some shitty-used to be good Florida teams. The Pac 12 is probably better team for team but is missing the banner bearer at the top.
Really? I think I could only know that if they all played each other. And outside of Washington, I'd have a hard time picking a winner across the board. The Pac is shit.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Pac 12 Last 3 years 2018: 3-4 in bowls 2017: 1-8 in bowls 2016: 2-3 in bowls
Easily the worst out of all p5 conferences in that stretch, despite getting the easier matchups due to our shitty bowl alignment. But sure, the conference is filled with good coaches.
TBF the only counter-point I would make is that the ACC is Clemson and some shitty-used to be good Florida teams. The Pac 12 is probably better team for team but is missing the banner bearer at the top.
Really? I think I could only know that if they all played each other. And outside of Washington, I'd have a hard time picking a winner across the board. The Pac is shit.
C'mon Creep, see past your orange and green glasses. The ACC resorts to SEC esque-schedule mandering and has no one nationally relevant besides Clemson.
I agree the Pac12 is down but not that much more so than everyone not named the SEC as the national #script likes to pretend. Fucking Northwestern was beating up the Big 10 too and I'm NOT here to tell you they were any good.
LMAO they literally took Brayden Lenius 2.0 and think he's the best receiver Oregon has ever recruited!
And they think they got a huge win over UW lol!
OMG you guys. Oregon fans give me so many laughs. Bless their hearts. They don't know what they don't know.
Did you get a lot of laughs during the 13 straight years we were kicking your ass. 😂
Only made the tanking of your program that much more hilarious
Bye bye Oregon golden era
Regression to the mean
Middle of the PAC
Lol, it’s going to be Oregon and UW for awhile. Oregon is going no where but up with the state of the PAC 12 right now.
Perception is not reality. The Pac-12 isn't shit. Just had a lot of head coaching turnover the last couple of years but is now stabilizing again. Let me know when Oregon beats WSU. Until then it'll be UW and WSU battling for the North title.
There is a void of coaching talent in the PAC 12. It’s really not good. It’s a bunch of retreads and assistants that didn’t even run their side of the ball with Wilcox and Leach handicapped by location. I am including Cristobal. What makes me optimistic about Cristobal is the the money Oregon will put into the program and his work ethic. He has a vision that’s proven unlike Edwards.
Recruiting is slipping, stadiums are emptier and we have a terrible PAC 12 commissioner.
The Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country right now. Can you name a conference with a collection of coaches better than Petersen, Kelly, Shaw, Leach, and Wilcox? Those guys know what they're doing. You're trying to look for easy wins for Oregon that won't be there. This conference is always the most competitive conference in the country. Oregon will never get back to the level of success they had under Chip Kelly and Cristobal's recruiting is smoke and mirrors. Not enough recruiting wins against big boy schools to justify the class rating and too many of his 4-star commits are skill players and not enough are lineman. A lot of people work really hard, doesn't mean they're competent.
You have to be kidding yourself. The PAC 12 is competitive because everyone is mediocre and the top end teams aren’t talented enough to go unscathed. The PAC 12 has shit the bed against other leagues. What are you smoking?
Kelly and Petersen are the most decorated coaches. Kelly will only be good if he decides to recruit. He will never help this conference if he doesn’t up his game. His recruiting at UCLA is far worse than at Oregon. For the sake of the conference, I hope he can get UCLA to 8-4 and matched up in bowls where he can win.
Right now coaching is clearly superior in the Big 10 and SEC.
Yeah no it's not. The Big 10 and SEC don't have a top-five head coaches in those conferences as good as Petersen, Kelly, Leach, Shaw, and Whittingham. Wilcox and Edwards look like up and comers as well. Pac-12 has the best head coaching talent in the country. Like I said, the coaching turnover in recent years had the conference down. But now it's being built back up by quality coaches who can evaluate and develop talent.
We get our shit knocked in by Northwestern, dude. You’re wrong.
Did you watch the fucking game? Utah should have won, easily and that was against the Big-10 champs. You're reaching for straws. There is no easy path for Oregon to get back to the top of the conference. You will be disappointed with how many losses they have to "mediocre" Pac-12 teams this season and the seasons to come.
Yes. They lost by two scores and NW wasn’t the champ. Also, Stanford shit the bed against them too and probably will this year.
So fucking what? Northwestern doesn't suck. You're right, they were the Big-10 Championship runner-ups. Must have been pretty good last season.
Lolz. This is where you go from @StrongArmCobra , someone who had a decent thread in the Tug, to @StrongBallzCobra, a man who doesn't listen to razon.
First, you erroneously tabbed NW the Big 10 champs, a fact you could have easily looked up if you weren't foaming at the mouth.
Then, you double down and say they don't suck, despite five, 5, losses, including two, at home, to Akron and Duke. I'll spell it out again so you read it: AKRON and Duke. At HOME. Then got their asses handed to them by Ohio State.
Then you triple down and give us the "they should have won." There's a saying on this board: winners win. Losers say "they should have won." And they lost by 11. To fucking Northwestern.
If your new thing is to try and prop up the Pac 12 as some form of validation for Washington losses, I applaud your courage and admire your spunk. It is a mighty steep hill you climb.
Kyle Whittingham has one of the best bowl records in the country. It's a stupid point picking one data point to make an argument and it's an attempt to diverge the discussion onto some stupid tangent. The Pac-12 has good coaches and will only get better from here on out. Mario Cristobal isn't one of them. But how long did it take you to do the research and write this?
Maybe you should look at who Whittingham has beaten in bowl games.... 7-5 Georgia Tech 8-5 Tulsa 8-5 Navy 12-2 Bama (yes, a really good win) 8-5 Cal 8-5 Georgia Tech 10-2 Colorado State 9-4 BYU 6-7 Indiana 7-6 West Virginia
A real murderer's row, there. His record has more to do with shit MWC/Pac12 bowl tie-ins than anything else
Winning is winning. Whittingham is a really good coach who has to work with lesser talent but develops them very well. He's way better than the retard Oregon has to work with as are many other Pac-12 coaches. Again, none of you dumb ass quooks can prove the Pac-12 doesn't have really good coaching right now. Oregon is not owning shit in this conference anymore. It's UW and everybody else until USC gets their shit together.
Really? I think you're the only one who thinks that.
And it's not the quook's job to prove it. The conference sucks and the results speak for themselves. ASU lost to Fresneck; Cal lost to TCU; WSU, in a good year for us, beat Iowa State by 2, Oregon beat an MSU team with no offense by 1, Utah lost to NW (which, again, lost to Akron at home), we know what happened to Washington, again, and Stanford beat Pitt by 1 point. 3 shitty wins, 4 really shitty losses. And the conference's best chance at some national respect was squandered by Washington losing to a 5 loss Auburn team.
Do you want to review the 2017 bowl season?
Are you sure you want to continue with this line of crazy?
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Shaw and Whittingham lost closely contested bowl games but have already proven themselves prior to those games.
Wilcox is still deep in rebuild mode but his defense is very impressive given the talent he has to work with.
All of those coaches are more impressive at this time than Mario Cristobal is. So where are the easy wins for Oregon against "mediocre" conference opponents going to come from?
Who do they have in the trenches?
O-line they got Austin Jackson, Alijah Vera Tucker, Brett Neilan, and Justin Dedich might kick out from back up Center to Guard to get the best guys on the field. They have more trench talent than Oregon and will run an air raid offense which is an offense Oregon has struggled to stop against WSU. This air raid offense will be loaded with 5-star receivers compared to the JAGs WSU has. USC being a much more talented version of WSU is bad news for Oregon.
But you didn't. Instead, you got basic facts fucked up and engaged in some mighty loozerish rationalizing and once again impugned your credibility.
How long did it take me? To know that NW didn't win the Big 10 last season? Zero seconds. To look up NW's 2018 season results? 7 seconds. Are those your questions?
And now it's the 'I'm just baiting you' routine? Lolz.
And you wonder why every single other poster on this board, including some pretty fervent Washington fans, thinks you are a giant dumb fuck. I've not come across anyone who doubles down on retard quite like you. And I knew krisvashon for Christ's sake.
They lost a lot off the team and didn’t develop. They are picked to win 7 by Vegas for a reason.
I see you've found new made up material.
Leavitt was pissed about not getting the job and probably brooded about it. He's a good coordinator, and I (and you) have no idea what was going on in the background of the 'firing', but if there's a story, that's the story.
If he's too demanding, then I'd say that's a good sign for Oregon fans. I hear Helfrich was a really easy going guy. Too bad they let him go huh?
I agree the Pac12 is down but not that much more so than everyone not named the SEC as the national #script likes to pretend. Fucking Northwestern was beating up the Big 10 too and I'm NOT here to tell you they were any good.
And it's not the quook's job to prove it. The conference sucks and the results speak for themselves. ASU lost to Fresneck; Cal lost to TCU; WSU, in a good year for us, beat Iowa State by 2, Oregon beat an MSU team with no offense by 1, Utah lost to NW (which, again, lost to Akron at home), we know what happened to Washington, again, and Stanford beat Pitt by 1 point. 3 shitty wins, 4 really shitty losses. And the conference's best chance at some national respect was squandered by Washington losing to a 5 loss Auburn team.
Do you want to review the 2017 bowl season?
Are you sure you want to continue with this line of crazy?