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How is Trump going to handle the immigration issue come election time?

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    You think saying "jobs" during a period of historically low unemployment is an election winner?

    A Rat saying "jobs" will draw a response from Trump of "you're welcome."

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    edited July 2019
    SFGbob said:

    As I've already told you, I don't need to read your mind in order to know that you think you're much brighter than you really are.
    As I've already responded, yes you do. Otherwise you're just grabbing your dick and whistling in the wind. I could say the very same thing about you, except that it's a stupid charge, so I don't.

    Or do you think that you don't come off as a pedantic prick?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    As I've already responded, yes you do. Otherwise you're just grabbing your dick and whistling in the wind. I could say the very same thing about you, except that it's a stupid charge, so I don't.

    Or do you think that you don't come off as a pedantic prick?
    Dude, all I need to do is read your overly wordy responses to know you're a guy who loves the sound of his own voice and you think you're smarter than you really are.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,946

    PS: they have no other choice? Yes they do. Piss off the fringe on the left and dare them to vote for Trump. WTF else can they do? Take the chance they won't vote at all (which is possible), and reach out to the much larger constituency known as the American working class who hold reasonably moderate political views. That group that used to support you. Why won't it work? Says who? Are you telling me if they drop transgender and illegal healthcare bits they're fucked? How so? There are a lot more moderates around than it may appear in the Tug.

    Jobs Jobs Jobs. Any Dem candidate needs to impose on himself a quota for saying the word "jobs" in every single appearance. Even if there is no context, just blurt it out. Jobs! And Social Security, and Medicare and and and and. That shit. The gay community will understand if you don't make gay marriage your leading issue. Hillary talked about bathroom rights; Donnie talked about industry. This is a no fucking brainer man.

    What choice? You said yourself they'll lose in 2020 if they stick to the game plan. So what's to lose by trying something else?


    Vernon Adams must be edjumacating the DNC.

    64.2%>2.1%


  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    SFGbob said:

    Dude, all I need to do is read your overly wordy responses to know you're a guy who loves the sound of his own voice and you think you're smarter than you really are.
    Dude, no, it's not all you need to do. You profess to know how smart I think I am. So you're a mind reader.

    Again, I could say the same exact thing about you.

    All I need to do is watch how you occupy the Tug everyday, lining up baited thread after baited thread, all day every day, and arguing to 20th page and beyond if necessary to get the last word and demonstrate how much more you know than all but a few of your supporting cast and how masterful you are at debating and exposing all these idiot liberals.

    That, and your constant need to be right and your apparent incapacity to see your own bias in every angle you take, is all I need to know that you think you're much brighter than you actually are.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    SFGbob said:

    You think saying "jobs" during a period of historically low unemployment is an election winner?

    A Rat saying "jobs" will draw a response from Trump of "you're welcome."

    There was more, but I suppose they could drop jobs and healthcare and securing social security and instead renew their focus on transgender bathrooms, open borders and substantiating the rumors of free healthcare for immigrants.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    I'm not going to get into a chicken and egg debate on this, but the swinging to extremes seems to have occured on both ends of the political spectrum.

    Beyond that, I think ID politics failed the Democrats miserably last time around. So what does a good coordinator do when they stack the box and bring in the safeties and complete stuff the run? Run it again?

    Whatever. I just know this: raising your fucking hand with the rest of the village idiots in response to that question on illegals and healthcare will bury you. Whomever emerges will have a picture of their hand up on signs at every Trump rally. People won't forget that.

    Steve Bannon knew what I said to be true: people are stupid. He counted up how many people are stupid in one particular way and said, "that's the group that will carry us to the White House." And he was spot on correct. He fed Trump that platform. Trump was just the perfect guy to execute the plan. I wonder how many people still think Trump cares about abortion. Lolz Lolz Lolz.

    You're right. It's no longer 1992 my brother Cuog. Now I'm mocked here for being a centrist. People literally attempt to insult me by pointing out my centrism ... as if it's supposed to hurt my feelings.


    Not mocking. But simply saying that the Far left, that most of these fools are courting, demands that they raise their hand.

    I don't think the moderators should be fed questions in debates by the party. The whole system of nominating a President is staged and corrupt as it is. At least make somebody think on their feet.

    The moderator should axe questions as they say fit. Some of them suck and some of them don't, But that's the media we are left with.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Dude, no, it's not all you need to do. You profess to know how smart I think I am. So you're a mind reader.

    Again, I could say the same exact thing about you.

    All I need to do is watch how you occupy the Tug everyday, lining up baited thread after baited thread, all day every day, and arguing to 20th page and beyond if necessary to get the last word and demonstrate how much more you know than all but a few of your supporting cast and how masterful you are at debating and exposing all these idiot liberals.

    That, and your constant need to be right and your apparent incapacity to see your own bias in every angle you take, is all I need to know that you think you're much brighter than you actually are.
    The thing is, I'm not that bright. I'm just smarter than you. You exposed yourself with your "the Christian right might do something!!!!" Don't feel bad, you're smarter than Hondo, El Monte, Owl and Flea. You're just not as bright as you think you are.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    salemcoog said:

    Not mocking. But simply saying that the Far left, that most of these fools are courting, demands that they raise their hand.

    I don't think the moderators should be fed questions in debates by the party. The whole system of nominating a President is staged and corrupt as it is. At least make somebody think on their feet.

    The moderator should axe questions as they say fit. Some of them suck and some of them don't, But that's the media we are left with.
    Sure. I was just assuming the guy was a token plant and that the questions were staged to give the candidates the chance to convey the message the party wants them to convey. Maybe he was a Cuban and just wanted to out them. I have no idea and DRGAF because their answer sealed their fate and they'll get what they deserve.

    And my real point is that they shouldn't be courting the far left and their demands. It's a loser.

    Poke holes in the job numbers, argue that good factory jobs numbers still haven't fully recovered from the recession, focus on the the increase in the trade deficit, the increase in federal borrowing, increase in number of people without health insurance ... you know, things with some hope of relevance to more people than less. Figure out who's really taking it on the chin with China and prop them up. This is about winning. Like Trump with abortion. I'm reading his mind right now: he doesn't care.

    Along the way of course you point out what a cretin he is and go after him personally, but that had better not be the base of your platform. There are people who are going to vote for Trump even if they get a picture of him fucking a dog on the White House lawn. That's just how it is. You're going after the middle who grew weary of gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, elitist affect, and what appeared to be a near obsession with anything and anyone not American.
  • dfleadflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    The thing is, I'm not that bright.
    The rest was bullshit.


  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    dflea said:

    The rest was bullshit.


    And yet I still run circles around your ignorant ass. Now perform you one trick little pony. El Monte will be here shortly to tongue your ass.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,946

    There was more, but I suppose they could drop jobs and healthcare and securing social security and instead renew their focus on transgender bathrooms, open borders and substantiating the rumors of free healthcare for immigrants.




    Trotting out transgender bathrooms, open borders and free healthcare for illegals again is as smart as Mike Leach going 5-wide from the 2 yard line. Trump is doing his Danny Shelton imitation.....

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    SFGbob said:

    The thing is, I'm not that bright. I'm just smarter than you. You exposed yourself with your "the Christian right might do something!!!!" Don't feel bad, you're smarter than Hondo, El Monte, Owl and Flea. You're just not as bright as you think you are.
    Not a very good response mind reader. How exactly did that "expose" my intelligence? We've been through this. Anti-American muslim women and transgender athletes and Gaia worshiping hippies don't interfere in my life at all. But if I wanted an abortion in Alabama or Georgia at this very point in history, my style has now been severely cramped. Abortion is about as in personam as it gets. While you're worried about people not loving America sufficiently, I'm worried about the Bible belt denying people the right to manage themselves as they see fit. Pretty fucking intrusive from where I sit.

    Maybe this is your exposure and you're just confused?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Not a very good response mind reader. How exactly did that "expose" my intelligence? We've been through this. Anti-American muslim women and transgender athletes and Gaia worshiping hippies don't interfere in my life at all. But if I wanted an abortion in Alabama or Georgia at this very point in history, my style has now been severely cramped. Abortion is about as in personam as it gets. While you're worried about people not loving America sufficiently, I'm worried about the Bible belt denying people the right to manage themselves as they see fit. Pretty fucking intrusive from where I sit.

    Maybe this is your exposure and you're just confused?
    But, but the Christian right might do something!!!!!!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Trump has ZERO excuses to fall back on. None. He's president, the buck stops with him. He has presidential powers at his disposal and he can shut immigration down tomorrow if he wanted to. He could use the military to build the wall, he could send troops to the border, he could threaten Mexico with economic penalties and even war if they don't stop the never ending caravans.

    He hasn't done any of these things.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,012
    SFGbob said:

    But, but the Christian right might do something!!!!!!
    I see that you've chosen to yield. I guess I'll take that one comment back in light of your commitment to personal improvement.

    Transgender Athletes man!!
  • dfleadflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    And yet I still run circles around your ignorant ass. Now perform you one trick little pony. El Monte will be here shortly to tongue your ass.
    No, you don't, little girl.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I see that you've chosen to yield. I guess I'll take that one comment back in light of your commitment to personal improvement.

    Transgender Athletes man!!
    Yes, I've "yielded" to the fact that you intentionally limit my examples of the Religious Left impacting my life in ways far greater then your inability to get an abortion in Georgia because you're a dishonest hack who isn't as bright as you feel you are.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Whenever a dumbocrat dares to mention jobs, it should be mentioned right back how many jobs legal and illegal immigrants are taking from the American people.
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