Roger Rosengarten, 2020 4* OL, Littleton (Valor Christian), CO (COMMITTED)

KrunkJuice said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Gladstone said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjqcnuCF34

Lol, Herbert had all day to throw against a consistent 5 man rush. He was sacked once on a stunt by Fields and the OL gave up one negative rushing play. Capra was the culprit and he transferred out to SDSU. Also, Oregon was down Sewell, Jones got injured in the game, and Warmack wasn't a go. That game was on Herbert, the receivers and special team gaffes. Also, that might have been the worst play calling I've seen in a decade. Those are my two biggest concerns: Herbert's mental fortitude and Arroyo play calling.

What the fuck are you watching? Arizona stuffed the fuck out of your running game with an undersized D-line. Almost every time Herbert dropped back to pass he was under pressure and had to move off his spot or get rid of the ball just in time before getting sacked. He got hit at least half a dozen times after throwing the ball. He was under pressure and threw picks and inaccurate passes because of it. Pretty funny Cristobal kept him in the whole game to try to make the score more respectable and Herbert got smacked trying to run it in at the end.

Arizona was credited with 1 sack and zero hurries. Every time he was moved off his spot he had time to reset. Arizona moves him off his spot by blitzing on every play - they sent 5 on every play until the 4th qtr. He had a lot of clean pockets and when he didn’t he was able to side step pressure easily. The times he took a qb hit were stick routes. Herbert played his worst game.

Justin played constipated, the play calling was unimaginative and the wide receivers couldn’t beat man coverage. The oline had three of the top grades on offense. It was not the oline play that lost that game. That is backed up with stats and people that grade for a living.

Pass pro was actually good and run blocking adequate (RBs left a lot on the table). Likewise, 23 carries wasn’t going to give them the reps or rhythm to assert themselves. Were they dominate? No. Were they the problem. Absolutely not.

I just watched the fucking game earlier today. I don't give a fuck what stats were recorded or not recorded in terms of QB hurries. Sometimes those stats are not recorded. I know what the fuck I saw. Arizona was in your back field all fucking game and getting pressure on Herbert all game and knocking him to the ground. The two picks he threw were under pressure.

All I hear is fucking excuses. They got their asses absolutely smacked by Arizona. The Arizona players were clowning them all game. I loved that little pose one of them did in the end zone. That was hilarious. I don't give a fuck about "O-line grades". Film don't lie. Oregon could not run the ball and they gave up pressure all fucking game long and Herbert shit himself. Oregon ran for 3.7 yards per carry and passed for 3.9 yards per pass. That's fucking pathetic. Your O-line is just not that good. You're seriously trying to argue it wasn't the O-line's fault they got blown out 44-15 and only averaged 3.7 yards per carry. I think Cristobal would disagree.

Yes, that’s exactly what I am arguing. The yardage was pathetic. The reason wasn’t the OL. It’s really not that difficult of a concept.

Oregon stepped all over their dicks in that game...busted coverages, fumbles, ints, and terrible special teams.

Dude, Herbert threw one int. Get it straight. He was outside the pocket and there was no pressure and he under threw the ball into double coverage.

The skill play was atrocious save a couple good plays by Mitchell (he was inconsistent). Arroyo called stick routes, go routes and screen passes. No flare routes or passes in the flats until the 4 the qtr to throw behind the blitzing outside linebackers.

Also, the advantage of size on the OL comes in the 4th quarter when you’ve worn down the smaller dline. Misfiring on stick routes on 3rd and short in the first half gave the offense no rhythm or opportunity to wear down Zona.

That being said there was still some awful ball carrier vision and yards were left on the field.

You are a fucking retard. Oregon tried to run the ball and couldn't. That is on their O-line. You want to blame everybody except the fucking O-line for not being able to run the ball against Arizona and it makes no fucking sense. Everything is a fucking excuse to avoid admitting your O-line isn't nearly as good as they are being hyped up to be. And it's not just one game. It was the same against WSU and Utah and Michigan State.

Versus UW: 3.6 yards per rush
Versus Arizona: 3.7 yards per rush
Versus Utah: 3.7 yards per rush
Versus WSU: 2.4 yards per rush
Versus Michigan State: 1.4 yards per rush

I thought Cristobal was an O-line guru? I thought he wanted to run the ball down team's throats and teach the Pac-12 what big boy football is all about? I thought Oregon was SEC of the West. What the fuck is this shit? Oregon did not run the ball on anybody impressive all of last season. Where the fuck is this bullshit hype coming from that Oregon has an elite O-line? They haven't done shit. It's just based off of returning experience. Fucking run the ball down somebody's throat then you can talk. Auburn's D-line is going to smack them.

Herbert threw that pick because he was flushed out of pocket and threw the ball late. Why was he flushed out of the pocket? Because of pressure you dumb ass.

If you want to measure pass pro by a qb getting moved off his spot, what does that say about UW’s pass pro? However, I am sure you’re going to say Browning held onto the ball too long, amirite?

Also, Oregon was getting 3-4 yards a carry in the first half. It’s not like it was they were stuffed at the LOS and broke off a big play.

Lastly, Oregon couldn’t beat man when Zona sent 5 - 6 people every play. The oline can beat their man and play their assignment but if a WR can’t make the defense pay for playing a man blitz scheme, I am not sure how you blame the oline.

Nobody here is claiming UW has an elite O-line. They're good and one of the better O-lines in the conference, but they have not become dominant yet. You look at Oregon boards and they're all jizzing on themselves about Oregon's O-line.

I just gave you literally half of Oregon's season of mediocre rushing numbers and you're still in denial. You are the dumbest fucking quook I've ever seen. Straight up @Mosster47 level retarded.

I never said they’re dominant. You said they were dominated. You’re always changing the goal posts.

Also, back to Rosengarten, sounds like he may be more comfortable in a smaller city.

Changing subjects, according to Oregon Live, you guys are 2 over the limit. Who else is Cristobal going to boot?

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

StrongArmCobra said:

lawsandl said:

Gladstone said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjqcnuCF34

Lol, Herbert had all day to throw against a consistent 5 man rush. He was sacked once on a stunt by Fields and the OL gave up one negative rushing play. Capra was the culprit and he transferred out to SDSU. Also, Oregon was down Sewell, Jones got injured in the game, and Warmack wasn't a go. That game was on Herbert, the receivers and special team gaffes. Also, that might have been the worst play calling I've seen in a decade. Those are my two biggest concerns: Herbert's mental fortitude and Arroyo play calling.

What the fuck are you watching? Arizona stuffed the fuck out of your running game with an undersized D-line. Almost every time Herbert dropped back to pass he was under pressure and had to move off his spot or get rid of the ball just in time before getting sacked. He got hit at least half a dozen times after throwing the ball. He was under pressure and threw picks and inaccurate passes because of it. Pretty funny Cristobal kept him in the whole game to try to make the score more respectable and Herbert got smacked trying to run it in at the end.

Arizona was credited with 1 sack and zero hurries. Every time he was moved off his spot he had time to reset. Arizona moves him off his spot by blitzing on every play - they sent 5 on every play until the 4th qtr. He had a lot of clean pockets and when he didn’t he was able to side step pressure easily. The times he took a qb hit were stick routes. Herbert played his worst game.

Justin played constipated, the play calling was unimaginative and the wide receivers couldn’t beat man coverage. The oline had three of the top grades on offense. It was not the oline play that lost that game. That is backed up with stats and people that grade for a living.

Pass pro was actually good and run blocking adequate (RBs left a lot on the table). Likewise, 23 carries wasn’t going to give them the reps or rhythm to assert themselves. Were they dominate? No. Were they the problem. Absolutely not.

I just watched the fucking game earlier today. I don't give a fuck what stats were recorded or not recorded in terms of QB hurries. Sometimes those stats are not recorded. I know what the fuck I saw. Arizona was in your back field all fucking game and getting pressure on Herbert all game and knocking him to the ground. The two picks he threw were under pressure.

All I hear is fucking excuses. They got their asses absolutely smacked by Arizona. The Arizona players were clowning them all game. I loved that little pose one of them did in the end zone. That was hilarious. I don't give a fuck about "O-line grades". Film don't lie. Oregon could not run the ball and they gave up pressure all fucking game long and Herbert shit himself. Oregon ran for 3.7 yards per carry and passed for 3.9 yards per pass. That's fucking pathetic. Your O-line is just not that good. You're seriously trying to argue it wasn't the O-line's fault they got blown out 44-15 and only averaged 3.7 yards per carry. I think Cristobal would disagree.

Yes, that’s exactly what I am arguing. The yardage was pathetic. The reason wasn’t the OL. It’s really not that difficult of a concept.

Oregon stepped all over their dicks in that game...busted coverages, fumbles, ints, and terrible special teams.

Dude, Herbert threw one int. Get it straight. He was outside the pocket and there was no pressure and he under threw the ball into double coverage.

The skill play was atrocious save a couple good plays by Mitchell (he was inconsistent). Arroyo called stick routes, go routes and screen passes. No flare routes or passes in the flats until the 4 the qtr to throw behind the blitzing outside linebackers.

Also, the advantage of size on the OL comes in the 4th quarter when you’ve worn down the smaller dline. Misfiring on stick routes on 3rd and short in the first half gave the offense no rhythm or opportunity to wear down Zona.

That being said there was still some awful ball carrier vision and yards were left on the field.

You are a fucking retard. Oregon tried to run the ball and couldn't. That is on their O-line. You want to blame everybody except the fucking O-line for not being able to run the ball against Arizona and it makes no fucking sense. Everything is a fucking excuse to avoid admitting your O-line isn't nearly as good as they are being hyped up to be. And it's not just one game. It was the same against WSU and Utah and Michigan State.

Versus UW: 3.6 yards per rush
Versus Arizona: 3.7 yards per rush
Versus Utah: 3.7 yards per rush
Versus WSU: 2.4 yards per rush
Versus Michigan State: 1.4 yards per rush

I thought Cristobal was an O-line guru? I thought he wanted to run the ball down team's throats and teach the Pac-12 what big boy football is all about? I thought Oregon was SEC of the West. What the fuck is this shit? Oregon did not run the ball on anybody impressive all of last season. Where the fuck is this bullshit hype coming from that Oregon has an elite O-line? They haven't done shit. It's just based off of returning experience. Fucking run the ball down somebody's throat then you can talk. Auburn's D-line is going to smack them.

Herbert threw that pick because he was flushed out of pocket and threw the ball late. Why was he flushed out of the pocket? Because of pressure you dumb ass.

If you want to measure pass pro by a qb getting moved off his spot, what does that say about UW’s pass pro? However, I am sure you’re going to say Browning held onto the ball too long, amirite?

Also, Oregon was getting 3-4 yards a carry in the first half. It’s not like it was they were stuffed at the LOS and broke off a big play.

Lastly, Oregon couldn’t beat man when Zona sent 5 - 6 people every play. The oline can beat their man and play their assignment but if a WR can’t make the defense pay for playing a man blitz scheme, I am not sure how you blame the oline.

Nobody here is claiming UW has an elite O-line. They're good and one of the better O-lines in the conference, but they have not become dominant yet. You look at Oregon boards and they're all jizzing on themselves about Oregon's O-line.

I just gave you literally half of Oregon's season of mediocre rushing numbers and you're still in denial. You are the dumbest fucking quook I've ever seen. Straight up @Mosster47 level retarded.

I never said they’re dominant. You said they were dominated. You’re always changing the goal posts.

Also, back to Rosengarten, sounds like he may be more comfortable in a smaller city.

DoogCourics said:

Per Ektard, Oregon crushed the visit and UW has a lot of ground to make up.

This weekend is critical.

StrongArmCobra said:

His UW visit will be a 12/10.

greenblood said:

StrongArmCobra said:

His UW visit will be a 12/10.

But we need to watch for the weather forecast.

Right Ballz?

KrunkJuice said:

bananasnblondes said:

247 just posted his post-Oregon visit interview. He is complimentary, but it doesnt scream "blown away". He also throws in UW. I think we might have a better shot to land him than I thought.

What stood out the most is that I got to connect with the players, getting together for dinner and they treated me to a good time.

"The coaches didn't tell I’ll be starting right away if I were to go there, but if I buy into the program and believe, I know there's a great strength staff in place and sky is the limit."

"I think I'd fit in real well in the program," Rosengarten said. "Their offense is balanced with some pro-style concepts and they're run heavy at times. I think altogether I'm a well-rounded player, so it fits me. They've got a likely first-round draft pick next year in Justin Herbert, so I know they throw the ball around, too. It's balanced offensively so I like how everything is there.

"I really like the staff and neither they or Washington have pressured me at all in any way to make a decision. I know I am a top priority for both schools and there has been no stress, so I really appreciate that."

Here is the trip report headline from Hopkins which doesn't exactly sound great.

https://twitter.com/JHopkinsSD/status/1135629839904301056

ThoroughDawg said:

DoogCourics said:

Per Ektard, Oregon crushed the visit and UW has a lot of ground to make up.

Crystal Dong to UW