Roger Rosengarten, 2020 4* OL, Littleton (Valor Christian), CO (COMMITTED)
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Neighbor2972 said:
Yeah, 4.85 at the openingDoogWhisperer said:
Where did he run? Was he at the Opening?backthepack said:That fact that Roger ran a 4.8 laser timed 40 is crazy to me lol.
That's fast! Gonna look for his tape there.Neighbor2972 said:
Yeah, 4.85 at the openingDoogWhisperer said:
Where did he run? Was he at the Opening?backthepack said:That fact that Roger ran a 4.8 laser timed 40 is crazy to me lol.
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Haven't found anything other than some random radio dude from Colorado being the source...DoogWhisperer said:Neighbor2972 said:
Yeah, 4.85 at the openingDoogWhisperer said:
Where did he run? Was he at the Opening?backthepack said:That fact that Roger ran a 4.8 laser timed 40 is crazy to me lol.
That's fast! Gonna look for his tape there.Neighbor2972 said:
Yeah, 4.85 at the openingDoogWhisperer said:
Where did he run? Was he at the Opening?backthepack said:That fact that Roger ran a 4.8 laser timed 40 is crazy to me lol.
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Here's why a strong 40 time for an OL really matters:
1) You can't run a strong 40 without having an explosive start and the ability to get up to top speed relatively quickly
2) The ability for an OL to pull is critical in the run game ... and if you view some of the future of the running game what Oklahoma does, then pulling tackles is a look into the future
3) If you want a more passing forward offense, having OL that can get out and down the field blocking athletic LBs and DBs in the screen game (both RB and WR) is critical ... it's an area that we could experience significant improvement in from an execution standpoint -
What's a "screen game"? Is that that thing where somebody catches the ball and gets immediately destroyed? Yeah, I think I recall seeing that a few times.Tequilla said:Here's why a strong 40 time for an OL really matters:
1) You can't run a strong 40 without having an explosive start and the ability to get up to top speed relatively quickly
2) The ability for an OL to pull is critical in the run game ... and if you view some of the future of the running game what Oklahoma does, then pulling tackles is a look into the future
3) If you want a more passing forward offense, having OL that can get out and down the field blocking athletic LBs and DBs in the screen game (both RB and WR) is critical ... it's an area that we could experience significant improvement in from an execution standpoint -
@GrundleStiltzkin silence on his ability to holding the bag speaks volumes
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This Sawchuck guy has elite burst. Is he a 5 star?Neighbor2972 said:Roger didn't post any hudl yet this year, but his teammate we just offered has 10+ minutes of TD runs. Hard not to just watch Roger every play, he's killing dudes.
I reserve the right to change my mind, but RR is my #1 player in this class right now.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4277399/5da4ab8c8cd40b0d282e1f53 -
Sometimes the other team scores a touchdown1to392831weretaken said:
What's a "screen game"? Is that that thing where somebody catches the ball and gets immediately destroyed? Yeah, I think I recall seeing that a few times.Tequilla said:Here's why a strong 40 time for an OL really matters:
1) You can't run a strong 40 without having an explosive start and the ability to get up to top speed relatively quickly
2) The ability for an OL to pull is critical in the run game ... and if you view some of the future of the running game what Oklahoma does, then pulling tackles is a look into the future
3) If you want a more passing forward offense, having OL that can get out and down the field blocking athletic LBs and DBs in the screen game (both RB and WR) is critical ... it's an area that we could experience significant improvement in from an execution standpoint -
Linemen with babyfaces are generally mean and nasty
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Elite.FireCohen said:@GrundleStiltzkin silence on his ability to holding the bag speaks volumes
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If you predicate your offense on linemen sprinting 40 yards, you're doing it wrong, and shouldn't be coaching Pop Warner. Give me an OL's 10 yard time, vertical, or agility drill numbers. If you absolutely can't get those other numbers, the 40 is a relatively bad proxy for explosiveness and quickness that is strictly speaking better than nothing.Tequilla said:Here's why a strong 40 time for an OL really matters:
1) You can't run a strong 40 without having an explosive start and the ability to get up to top speed relatively quickly
2) The ability for an OL to pull is critical in the run game ... and if you view some of the future of the running game what Oklahoma does, then pulling tackles is a look into the future
3) If you want a more passing forward offense, having OL that can get out and down the field blocking athletic LBs and DBs in the screen game (both RB and WR) is critical ... it's an area that we could experience significant improvement in from an execution standpoint
All else being equal, I guess a fast 40 time is kinda neat. But, I guess it would be neat to have an OL who excels in passing or receiving drills, too. -
An O line that didn't leave the building at halftime would be cool
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Nice try on the positive spin. Needs to get his weight back up.
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Reminds me a bit of Jake Fisher. I dunno if RR played any TE in HS. Getting whooped in a drill 20 months before he ever sees the field shouldn't surprise anyone, he needs more sand in the pants.
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Too much healthy food at Valor. Needs fast food IMOGrundleStiltzkin said: -
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There are many outliers that prove you don’t need a great 40 to be a great OL, but more athleticism is always good. It won’t mean shit if he is soft and can’t block or is too dumb to pick up blitzes and stunts, but he’s good and this shows he’s an exceptional athlete for an OL.Emoterman said:
If you predicate your offense on linemen sprinting 40 yards, you're doing it wrong, and shouldn't be coaching Pop Warner. Give me an OL's 10 yard time, vertical, or agility drill numbers. If you absolutely can't get those other numbers, the 40 is a relatively bad proxy for explosiveness and quickness that is strictly speaking better than nothing.Tequilla said:Here's why a strong 40 time for an OL really matters:
1) You can't run a strong 40 without having an explosive start and the ability to get up to top speed relatively quickly
2) The ability for an OL to pull is critical in the run game ... and if you view some of the future of the running game what Oklahoma does, then pulling tackles is a look into the future
3) If you want a more passing forward offense, having OL that can get out and down the field blocking athletic LBs and DBs in the screen game (both RB and WR) is critical ... it's an area that we could experience significant improvement in from an execution standpoint
All else being equal, I guess a fast 40 time is kinda neat. But, I guess it would be neat to have an OL who excels in passing or receiving drills, too. -
Not concerned about this at all. RR is going to be really good, but the spin given when “their recruits” don’t do well has always bothered me.Theironshiek said:Nice try on the positive spin. Needs to get his weight back up.
“I see 6 picks as a good thing. It shows he trusts his arm.”
“High School doesn’t matter.” Except when they do well, then I’ll get excited about I. -
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Welcome to two hours ago.DoogWhisperer said: -
But have you seen his 40 time?!?Theironshiek said:Nice try on the positive spin. Needs to get his weight back up.
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Wiltfong:
“ Washington OL commit Roger Rosengarten has those coveted skinny ankles on an OT, moves well.” -
That’s a different clip...yes, he got manhandled more than once...dnc said:
He definitely redshirts next year to get his strength up. -
YRYKDoogWhisperer said:
That’s a different clip...yes, he got manhandled more than once...dnc said:
He definitely redshirts next year to get his strength up. -
Wiltfong:
While Rosengarten may not be having the week he wants at the point of attack, struggling some in 1-on-1s (especially speed to power from the elite defensive ends), I still love his long-term projection. His feet are terrific, he can bend, and he has a frame with a lot of room for growth. I like him as a red-shirt guy before developing into one of the best offensive tackles in the country. He’s tough, long and most importantly athletic.
“He admittedly says his weight is down because of basketball but he feels he can easily put on the weight that Washington wants him to weigh when he gets there (280ish),” Huffman added. “He’s taken a number of reps and worked at both right and left tackle and looks more comfortable at right tackle. -
The clips I saw showed him a bit light but also on his heels in his back pedal. He was knocked backward easily by powerful guys. Easily corrected. How many defensive ends like that has he ever faced in real games?DoogCourics said:Wiltfong:
While Rosengarten may not be having the week he wants at the point of attack, struggling some in 1-on-1s (especially speed to power from the elite defensive ends), I still love his long-term projection. His feet are terrific, he can bend, and he has a frame with a lot of room for growth. I like him as a red-shirt guy before developing into one of the best offensive tackles in the country. He’s tough, long and most importantly athletic.
“He admittedly says his weight is down because of basketball but he feels he can easily put on the weight that Washington wants him to weigh when he gets there (280ish),” Huffman added. “He’s taken a number of reps and worked at both right and left tackle and looks more comfortable at right tackle.
You can't teach his kind of quickness at his size though and his highlights show him destroying people on both offense and defense. I still think he's a top 3-4 guy in the class when all is said and done. -
Watt had amazing mobility but not great power. That issue still persists. So hope not a bad signchuck said:
The clips I saw showed him a bit light but also on his heels in his back pedal. He was knocked backward easily by powerful guys. Easily corrected. How many defensive ends like that has he ever faced in real games?DoogCourics said:Wiltfong:
While Rosengarten may not be having the week he wants at the point of attack, struggling some in 1-on-1s (especially speed to power from the elite defensive ends), I still love his long-term projection. His feet are terrific, he can bend, and he has a frame with a lot of room for growth. I like him as a red-shirt guy before developing into one of the best offensive tackles in the country. He’s tough, long and most importantly athletic.
“He admittedly says his weight is down because of basketball but he feels he can easily put on the weight that Washington wants him to weigh when he gets there (280ish),” Huffman added. “He’s taken a number of reps and worked at both right and left tackle and looks more comfortable at right tackle.
You can't teach his kind of quickness at his size though and his highlights show him destroying people on both offense and defense. I still think he's a top 3-4 guy in the class when all is said and done. -
Someone on twatter said he is playing basketball right now and has lost 25lbs.
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It’s not. Get him lifting and eating and it will be corrected. Worse case scenario he’s not a mailer and is a pulling guard with help inside. He’s still one of our best commits. All the tools are there.FireCohen said:
Watt had amazing mobility but not great power. That issue still persists. So hope not a bad signchuck said:
The clips I saw showed him a bit light but also on his heels in his back pedal. He was knocked backward easily by powerful guys. Easily corrected. How many defensive ends like that has he ever faced in real games?DoogCourics said:Wiltfong:
While Rosengarten may not be having the week he wants at the point of attack, struggling some in 1-on-1s (especially speed to power from the elite defensive ends), I still love his long-term projection. His feet are terrific, he can bend, and he has a frame with a lot of room for growth. I like him as a red-shirt guy before developing into one of the best offensive tackles in the country. He’s tough, long and most importantly athletic.
“He admittedly says his weight is down because of basketball but he feels he can easily put on the weight that Washington wants him to weigh when he gets there (280ish),” Huffman added. “He’s taken a number of reps and worked at both right and left tackle and looks more comfortable at right tackle.
You can't teach his kind of quickness at his size though and his highlights show him destroying people on both offense and defense. I still think he's a top 3-4 guy in the class when all is said and done. -
Your point is fine, but Wattenberg couldn't move like Rosengarten, plus RR can probably hold close to 75lbs more than what hes at right now. Obviously his mobility will suffer a bit, but it's way beyond where it needs to be to begin with.FireCohen said:
Watt had amazing mobility but not great power. That issue still persists. So hope not a bad signchuck said:
The clips I saw showed him a bit light but also on his heels in his back pedal. He was knocked backward easily by powerful guys. Easily corrected. How many defensive ends like that has he ever faced in real games?DoogCourics said:Wiltfong:
While Rosengarten may not be having the week he wants at the point of attack, struggling some in 1-on-1s (especially speed to power from the elite defensive ends), I still love his long-term projection. His feet are terrific, he can bend, and he has a frame with a lot of room for growth. I like him as a red-shirt guy before developing into one of the best offensive tackles in the country. He’s tough, long and most importantly athletic.
“He admittedly says his weight is down because of basketball but he feels he can easily put on the weight that Washington wants him to weigh when he gets there (280ish),” Huffman added. “He’s taken a number of reps and worked at both right and left tackle and looks more comfortable at right tackle.
You can't teach his kind of quickness at his size though and his highlights show him destroying people on both offense and defense. I still think he's a top 3-4 guy in the class when all is said and done.
