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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
    Right. You just act butthurt when I post his lies.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
    Right. You just act butthurt when I post his lies.
    No I don't

    You're struggling

    And a pathological liar

    Sad
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
    Right. You just act butthurt when I post his lies.
    No I don't

    You're struggling

    And a pathological liar

    Sad
    Embarrassing.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    Alexis said:

    2001400ex said:

    Where is the lie Bob?

    In Thursday's video, the former vice president pointed to the violent clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia in August of 2017 at a large white nationalist rally, Biden took aim at Trump’s response that “there were some very fine people on both sides.”

    With those words, the president of the United assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it," Biden charged. "And in that moment, I new the threat to this nation was unlike any I had seen in my lifetime. I wrote at the time that we’re in the battle for the soul of this nation. Well, that’s even more true today. We are in the battle for the soul of this nation."

    Biden argued that "if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen."


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-officially-launches-2020-presidential-bid


    Um. there.
    Isn't the basis is making America great again changing the character of this nation?

    It's sad you guys can't see what Biden is talking about.
    Poof. And just like that Hondo the pathological liar no longer has any interest in discussing Biden's lie. What's sad is that on an anonymous message board you're too big a fucking Kunt to make clear declarative statements and arguments for fear that you'll be exposed for the lying dumbfuck you are if you do.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Biden launches his campaign with a lie and Hondo swallows like a bitch. All is right in the Universe.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
    Right. You just act butthurt when I post his lies.
    No I don't

    You're struggling

    And a pathological liar

    Sad
    Embarrassing.
    Yes, you are.


    Maybe you find an online community that gives a fuck what you think?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo loves being lied to

    Signed,
    Devoted Trump supporter.
    I don't spend page after page repeating and defending his lies over and over again but still
    Right. You just act butthurt when I post his lies.
    No I don't

    You're struggling

    And a pathological liar

    Sad
    Embarrassing.
    Yes, you are.


    Maybe you find an online community that gives a fuck what you think?
    Why so angry?
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    So where is Bidens quote? Lil lyin Bob.

    I heard it thrice on a 20min drive.
    I don't listen to AM talk radio.
    ...or FM radio, or watch the news. Hondo gets his talking points emailed to him.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited April 2019
    How lacking in self awareness do you have to be to be Daddy supporter while complaining about the supposed dishonesty of others?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    How lacking in self awareness do you have to be to be Daddy supporter while complaining about the supposed dishonesty of others?

    If you can find an example where I've defended a lie told by Trump lets see it Kunt but you and Hondo both appear to be defending this lie told by Biden.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited April 2019
    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that Hillary lost the popular vote because the 3-5 illegals that voted for her.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    everybody was doing it
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I don't understand why you guys even engage with Hondo. At this point I'm pretty convinced he's willfully just derailing conversations. It's the equivalent of engaging Ballz on the recruiting board. It can be fun to trigger it every once in a while but is pointless to do every day.

    Yes I do interrupt the circle jerk of liberal hate and conservative dick sucking. I laff and piss of pawz so it works.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    So if I disagree with taking down historical statues than I approve of slavery and racism. Kunt logic, is there anything it can't do?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,040

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    I don't understand why you guys even engage with Hondo. At this point I'm pretty convinced he's willfully just derailing conversations. It's the equivalent of engaging Ballz on the recruiting board. It can be fun to trigger it every once in a while but is pointless to do every day.

    Yes I do interrupt the circle jerk of liberal hate and conservative dick sucking. I laff and piss of pawz so it works.
    You're a liar and coward and that's on your best day Hondo. The only value you bring here is comedic and not as someone to laugh with but someone to mock and laugh at.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    Did you not think that being told that being white is evil would cause general resentment and some crazies to be crazier
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    Did you not think that being told that being white is evil would cause general resentment and some crazies to be crazier
    Shocking that you'd make shit up like that. Where is Bob, the lie police, at?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    How does an administration allow people free speech you fucking statist moron
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    How does an administration allow people free speech you fucking statist moron
    The moment when race realizes he read that comment completely wrong.


    But he'll double down and say he meant what he said. As always.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    Pure fucking crap pulled straight out of your lying twat. How has the Administration "allowed" people to be more vocal about their white supremacy you lying sack of shit?

    Cue the fucking Kunt act because the lying dipshit will never honestly answer this question.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

    But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

    Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.
    That's pompous bullshit.

    Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

    Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

    It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.
    People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

    But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.
    Did you not think that being told that being white is evil would cause general resentment and some crazies to be crazier
    Shocking that you'd make shit up like that. Where is Bob, the lie police, at?
    Hondo worry more about you're own lying twat of mouth instead of others.