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As a non-breeder myself, I’m all for other people having kids. You do you boo.
That shit ain’t for me and I’m perfectly ok with it. I enjoy my lifestyle of doing whatever I feel like and having the money to do it.
I get to be an uncle for my nieces and nephews and my buddies have kids, and that’s plenty.
Edit: I am however for getting married. 20’s was great for messing around, trying different women to figure out what you like. Then lock one down who doesn’t want kids either and go do fun shit across the world with each other. -
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich. -
What?HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
Keeping kids locked in the basement is the only way I’d ever see “haven’t been particularly expensive”.
How many kids do you have locked in your basement? -
Two kids, they're just 4 and 3. Only grandkids on wifey's side of the fam so we get the hookup from their grandparents pretty consistently.dirtysouwfdawg said:
What?HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
Keeping kids locked in the basement is the only way I’d ever see “haven’t been particularly expensive”.
How many kids do you have locked in your basement? -
Alexis said:
Agree. Sure when your buddies have money and time to party during their 20s, it kind of sucks, but now those same buddies have kids in school, little league, dance class, etc, and my kids are out of the house, I can golf whatever day I want, wife and I can go out to dinner whatever day we want, and hell, I never got laid back then anyway, so now isn't any different.MikeDamone said:
If you want kids, having kids young has it’s upside.bananasnblondes said:Why in God's name would you have a kid...or get married at his age?
Fuck yes. All in here. Happy to breed more caustic and non-beta boys into this world. I'd have as many as we can afford, but MrsEm is done getting pelted by footballs or gang tackled in the back yard. She pulled a "no mas" after the last kid, finally got a girl.HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
10.5 year age gap between the oldest and youngest demon seed. Oldest is my fishing and golfing buddy.
Youngest is in diapers. Should get weird in a bit, but I love being Pops. -
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
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Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations. -
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of. -
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.dflea said:
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of. -
#MeToo.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
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This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.HillsboroDuck said:
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.dflea said:
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness. -
dirtysouwfdawg said:
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.HillsboroDuck said:
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.dflea said:
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
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TYFYS. My money was on J though. Race quicker to the draw.RaceBannon said:dirtysouwfdawg said:
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.HillsboroDuck said:
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.dflea said:
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness. -
Thank God it's a boy. Can't imagine Gaines in female form.
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This is true, however child care is a bitch. I'm guessing if yours are 3 and 4 and you aren't bitching about the costs of child care then you don't have those.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead. -
RaceBannon said:dirtysouwfdawg said:
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.HillsboroDuck said:
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.dflea said:
True.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
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Yeah, I'm probably as happy as I've ever been being a dad. It's made considerably easier by having a wife whose career is childcare and isn't the typical first time parent. We go to concerts, camping, vacations, etc. that I see my friends are too afraid to do with their new kids. A strong support network of family living close by doesn't hurt either.
They still cost a fortune. I can't imagine the extra disposable income I'll have after I no longer have to pay for infant childcare. -
Your wife or husband has to make enough to justify child care costs otherwise one should stay home and raise the little rug rats. Staying home can be a considerable sacrifice in today's world where our value is in our work in a lot of cases
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked
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This is a case to have kids when you’re young and poor. You can’t spend a fortune on them is you don’t have a fortune.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor. -
My wife is thanking allah that our youngest (twins) will be going from 1/2 day pre-k to all day kindergarten next year. After 10 yrs she’s going back to work. She probably won’t make shit but it’s better than zero. She’s stayed home with all 4 and is done, like bullet to the side of the head done. Daycare was never an option because she would never have cleared enough to cover the ridiculous costs. Even the cost of 2 for day care was stupid expensive.RaceBannon said:Your wife or husband has to make enough to justify child care costs otherwise one should stay home and raise the little rug rats. Staying home can be a considerable sacrifice in today's world where our value is in our work in a lot of cases
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked
First world problems indeed. -
I have many thoughts about the intersection of second-wave feminism and consumerism.
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Wifey is primarily a stay at home mom (#opportunitycost). She works two days a week, one of those is my off day so I get a Daddy Day to do fun and stupid shit with them when she's not around to tell me to knock it off. So we only pay childcare one day a week, and thankfully she makes more than enough in that one day to justify it.whlinder said:
This is true, however child care is a bitch. I'm guessing if yours are 3 and 4 and you aren't bitching about the costs of child care then you don't have those.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead.
We could be pretty ballin if she worked full time since she makes more per hour than I do. But this way she gets to get out some, I still get to be the breadwinner and we still live comfortably enough. Our kids won't ever have the most or nicest stuff but they're going to have a much better life than most kids just by virtue of being with a parent far more often than not.
Our life isn't for everybody but it works pretty damn well for us. -
AgreeHillsboroDuck said:
Wifey is primarily a stay at home mom (#opportunitycost). She works two days a week, one of those is my off day so I get a Daddy Day to do fun and stupid shit with them when she's not around to tell me to knock it off. So we only pay childcare one day a week, and thankfully she makes more than enough in that one day to justify it.whlinder said:
This is true, however child care is a bitch. I'm guessing if yours are 3 and 4 and you aren't bitching about the costs of child care then you don't have those.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead.
We could be pretty ballin if she worked full time since she makes more per hour than I do. But this way she gets to get out some, I still get to be the breadwinner and we still live comfortably enough. Our kids won't ever have the most or nicest stuff but they're going to have a much better life than most kids just by virtue of being with a parent far more often than not.
Our life isn't for everybody but it works pretty damn well for us.
I would have loved to be a rich kid I'm not going to lie but my dad making us work for anything we wanted and being a cheap bastard did prepare me for life
We didn't even move to the brand new split level in the suburbs that all my friends did
We stayed on the mean streets of the South Capital hood in our 1920 house -
And my mom stayed home which was the way it was back then
She went back to the UW when we got to high school to get a job and my dad divorced her
"no wife of mine is going to work"
Kids today have no idea what it was like. They think injustice started in 2016
She was the wave of women who had to fight to get a credit card without a husband -
To my wife's credit, I told her she had to make more or be a stay at home mom. She managed to flip her job to a much more lucrative one even while pregnant. We also totally lucked out on our daycare which is cheap by market standards around here while also probably being the highest quality care around. Lots of luck involved.RaceBannon said:Your wife or husband has to make enough to justify child care costs otherwise one should stay home and raise the little rug rats. Staying home can be a considerable sacrifice in today's world where our value is in our work in a lot of cases
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked -
TBF, the 1920 house was also brand new at the time.RaceBannon said:
AgreeHillsboroDuck said:
Wifey is primarily a stay at home mom (#opportunitycost). She works two days a week, one of those is my off day so I get a Daddy Day to do fun and stupid shit with them when she's not around to tell me to knock it off. So we only pay childcare one day a week, and thankfully she makes more than enough in that one day to justify it.whlinder said:
This is true, however child care is a bitch. I'm guessing if yours are 3 and 4 and you aren't bitching about the costs of child care then you don't have those.HillsboroDuck said:
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.dflea said:
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.HillsboroDuck said:
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.Meek said:
in THIS economy??????HillsboroDuck said:I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
You must be rich.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead.
We could be pretty ballin if she worked full time since she makes more per hour than I do. But this way she gets to get out some, I still get to be the breadwinner and we still live comfortably enough. Our kids won't ever have the most or nicest stuff but they're going to have a much better life than most kids just by virtue of being with a parent far more often than not.
Our life isn't for everybody but it works pretty damn well for us.
I would have loved to be a rich kid I'm not going to lie but my dad making us work for anything we wanted and being a cheap bastard did prepare me for life
We didn't even move to the brand new split level in the suburbs that all my friends did
We stayed on the mean streets of the South Capital hood in our 1920 house -
This thread has become really gay, so I will now participate in it.
I have a stay-at-home wife raising our kid, and there will be 1-2 more in the future. -
I was watching House Hunters, speaking of gay, and this gal said she was a stay at home mom for their two dogs.
Shen then proceeded to bitch about every house they looked at
I yelled at my TV - why don't you get a fucking job then!!! -
If my second kid was my first, there would have been only one.
He escaped out the front window a couple times by kicking out the screen, he drew a 4 foot tall purple W on the wall of his room while I was watching a Husky game one Saturday, and he came running in the house one time with about 15 yellow jackets in his pants and shirt and proceeded to spread them all around the house.
Good kid, but hell on wheels. -
Sounds like his daddflea said:If my second kid was my first, there would have been only one.
He escaped out the front window a couple times by kicking out the screen, he drew a 4 foot tall purple W on the wall of his room while I was watching a Husky game one Saturday, and he came running in the house one time with about 15 yellow jackets in his pants and shirt and proceeded to spread them all around the house.
Good kid, but hell on wheels.
