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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    What's there to be confused about? He knew he couldn't make a case on obstruction and he took the cowards way out. His job was to render a decision to either charge Trump or not charge Trump based upon the investigation that we spent millions of dollars on and instead of during that he tossed it back in the lap of the DOJ. He could have done that from the outset and saved us all the time, and money.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    You know one thing there is no confusion about?

    Hondo is a pathological liar.

    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    You know one thing there is no confusion about?

    Hondo is a pathological liar.

    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    There's the white flag
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,080 Standard Supporter
    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,080 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
    Most forget that all of this crap started under Obama's watch. I believe he was involved and had full knowledge.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,942
    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
    Most forget that all of this crap started under Obama's watch. I believe he was involved and had full knowledge.
    I do as well, and I think that much of this "investigation" has been designed to give time and opportunity to the Obama loyalist to cover their tracks.

    Why can't we answer at this late date with 100% certainty if the DNC was ever really hacked and who they were hacked by?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,080 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
    Most forget that all of this crap started under Obama's watch. I believe he was involved and had full knowledge.
    I do as well, and I think that much of this "investigation" has been designed to give time and opportunity to the Obama loyalist to cover their tracks.

    Why can't we answer at this late date with 100% certainty if the DNC was ever really hacked and who they were hacked by?
    He had to know the how and why and give permission for the unmasking, In fact he issued an order to allow freer exchange of raw intelligence data within the government so it could occur.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
    Most forget that all of this crap started under Obama's watch. I believe he was involved and had full knowledge.
    I do as well, and I think that much of this "investigation" has been designed to give time and opportunity to the Obama loyalist to cover their tracks.

    Why can't we answer at this late date with 100% certainty if the DNC was ever really hacked and who they were hacked by?
    If they were hacked? El oh El. You don't recall the emails that were released? Fuck you are stupid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-officers-indicted-for-allegedly-hacking-clinton-campaign-dnc-emails
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,358
    edited March 2019
    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-of-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/ar-BBVfmVf

    It’s black letter law that a defendant can satisfy the corrupt intent criterion for obstruction even if the defendant himself committed no underlying crime. For example, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit recently ruled that a defendant could be convicted of obstruction “[e]ven if [his] primary motivation was to extricate the sister of his childhood friend from a troubled situation.” A court in Utah held in 2013 that a defendant could be liable for obstruction where his only apparent motive was to protect a friend from a criminal charge.

    Former Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick went to jail for obstructing justice in 2008 after he lied under oath about an extramarital affair. And this past January, a U.S. Navy captain in Florida was indicted on a charge of obstruction of justice after he allegedly misled investigators about his extramarital affair with a civilian employee’s spouse. Of course, adultery is not a crime. But interfering with an investigation to cover up adultery certainly is.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,080 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-of-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/ar-BBVfmVf
    And you think Mueller wouldn't charge it if he could? Or that the author for the uber liberal Post has a better legal understanding than Mueller or Barr? But Comey saying it has sparked the hopefuls on this BS.

    You still need a crime to investigate. HTH
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club
    but but but still - hondo
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    All of the Russian hacking, if there was any, and all of the corruption at the FBI that was uncovered by the exposure of McCabe and Strozk and Page happened on Comey's watch. He should have been fired for being a shitty Administrator.
    Most forget that all of this crap started under Obama's watch. I believe he was involved and had full knowledge.
    I do as well, and I think that much of this "investigation" has been designed to give time and opportunity to the Obama loyalist to cover their tracks.

    Why can't we answer at this late date with 100% certainty if the DNC was ever really hacked and who they were hacked by?
    If they were hacked? El oh El. You don't recall the emails that were released? Fuck you are stupid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-officers-indicted-for-allegedly-hacking-clinton-campaign-dnc-emails
    Is being charged the same as being guilty? Podesta was phished and gave out his password. That's how they got out

    And what they showed was the DNC fixing the race for Hillary, I'm glad they got caught for it. Anyone should be

    Blaming Russia is what Hillary shills do to cover up for her same as when she lost the election. El Oh EL!!!!!!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,358
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-of-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/ar-BBVfmVf
    And you think Mueller wouldn't charge it if he could? Or that the author for the uber liberal Post has a better legal understanding than Mueller or Barr? But Comey saying it has sparked the hopefuls on this BS.

    You still need a crime to investigate. HTH
    The smarter readers understand that challenging spurious reasoning is exactly that. Your legal understanding and Barr's are both incorrect. Thus Comey's confusion.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-of-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/ar-BBVfmVf
    And you think Mueller wouldn't charge it if he could? Or that the author for the uber liberal Post has a better legal understanding than Mueller or Barr? But Comey saying it has sparked the hopefuls on this BS.

    You still need a crime to investigate. HTH
    The smarter readers understand that challenging spurious reasoning is exactly that. Your legal understanding and Barr's are both incorrect. Thus Comey's confusion.
    I;m sure a partisan hack like yourself knows better. Just like the partisan hack Comey
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,358

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Interesting thought process. According to Comey you don't even need a crime to investigate to investigate. KGB man right there.

    After 2 years all the witnesses, search warrants and FBI agents working this entirely fabricated crime of a non-crime (collusion) and they have absolutely nothing. Comey thought his firing was the obstruction but he was a liar and he was telling those lies because of his own political beliefs and bias. He was fired for it. Unfit for law enforcement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-of-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/ar-BBVfmVf
    And you think Mueller wouldn't charge it if he could? Or that the author for the uber liberal Post has a better legal understanding than Mueller or Barr? But Comey saying it has sparked the hopefuls on this BS.

    You still need a crime to investigate. HTH
    The smarter readers understand that challenging spurious reasoning is exactly that. Your legal understanding and Barr's are both incorrect. Thus Comey's confusion.
    I;m sure a partisan hack like yourself knows better. Just like the partisan hack Comey
    I know better than virtually everyone. It's very frustrating and you should sympathize a little.
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