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the problem with trumptards is you're part idiot, part asshole, so like Trump.... so can't anywhere with things like facts and lawhardhat said:
And everyone knows that you don't do anything important in any capacity.AOG said:
Anybody who ever worked in any business anywhere doing anything important knows that there has to be an auditable record. Otherwise no one knows what has been declassified.hardhat said:
Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder.Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service. -
Shocker. Something that people aren't very well versed in gets twisted by the media to sound like this super evil thing and Dems get up in arms about it? Then as usual wishful thinking isn't reality so nothing happens then they claim that everyone is just paid off like the NY ag lol.Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service.
The one who campaigned on "getting trump" then realized they didn't really have anything real and gave up lol
"He was paid off!"
Dude no amount of money would turn someone away from taking down trump if it were legit. Theyd be hailed as a legitimate hero for like a decade and never have to work again and be filthy rich off appearances
I would do it in a hot second. Hell you don't even have to make it stick just get close. You'd still be a hero and filthy rich
Avennatti had the right idea lol. But you're not supposed to do it if you are trying to hide a thousand crimes lol -
The problem with your posts is you rush to judgment without thinking. Go ahead and continue thinking that anyone that disagrees with your silly narrative is a 'trumptard'. Another tell is your certainty about things. "anyone who knows anything about business"...I love it. Keep shitposting.AOG said:
the problem with trumptards is you're part idiot, part asshole, so like Trump.... so can't anywhere with things like facts and lawhardhat said:
And everyone knows that you don't do anything important in any capacity.AOG said:
Anybody who ever worked in any business anywhere doing anything important knows that there has to be an auditable record. Otherwise no one knows what has been declassified.hardhat said:
Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder.Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service.
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At this point I'm surprised sark hasn't seen an opportunity to jump into the fray
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HomerunSwaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service. -
MikeDamone said:
Honron!!!Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service. -
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The Grief is realAOG said:
the problem with trumptards is you're part idiot, part asshole, so like Trump.... so can't anywhere with things like facts and lawhardhat said:
And everyone knows that you don't do anything important in any capacity.AOG said:
Anybody who ever worked in any business anywhere doing anything important knows that there has to be an auditable record. Otherwise no one knows what has been declassified.hardhat said:
Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder.Swaye said:
Actually he can. As one of the only people on this board who maintained a TS/SCI for years, I feel I have more than just passing knowledge of this, and I can assure you the President can declassify anything at will. This is well established. But don't take my word for itMelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
From Politifact in 2017:
Experts agreed that the president, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When someone lower in the chain of command handles classification and declassification duties -- which is usually how it’s done -- it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.
The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan -- which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance -- addresses this line of authority.
"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."
Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."
The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
So the only real question here is whether or not he did declassify it. I do not have the answer to that, but it really is as simple as Trump saying "all of this shit is now declassified." And Congress can't do fuckall about it. I figured as our resident board centrist you would want to be accurate and since you were spreading disinformation I wanted to set the record straight. You are welcome for my service.
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While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After he’s president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument. -
There's no argument lol.MelloDawg said:
While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After he’s president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument.
It's another "the walls are closing in"
Regardless I think the Republicans were mostly behind this. They will do anything to move on from trump
Get the base riled up and make trump not runnable? Win win!
This doesn't help the Dems they know that -
Struggling mightily.MelloDawg said:
While president? Sure, the process is fairly straightforward.pawz said:
I assure you, you have no idea what you are talking about. POTUS and VPOTUS are the only ones in all of government with unilateral discretion to declassify.MelloDawg said:
What facts was I ignoring? I assure you he can’t say “I declassify this” and then it’s declassified.Bendintheriver said:
This is what is worthless about having a discussion with brain dead goose stepping rat morons.MelloDawg said:
"Broad generalizations". Did you think your weak assed attempt to ignore facts was going to make for a good argument?
Be an adult. Be honest and if you are going to vote for your corrupt politicians be a man and own it instead of lying your ass off.
Is 'centrist' code for not well read?
After he’s president? Much much different story, which is the essence of this argument.
He moved out prior to Jan 20 at noon.
He had a standing order that anything he took to private, personal residence was automatically declassified.
Any confusion on the matter is your own. Confirmation bias wants any and all perceived illegal activity to be true.
You really got him this tim.
