Snippet from today's article in The Athletic

DerekJohnson

"First, I’d caution against assuming that anybody’s stance on anything related to NIL is ever definitive or final. The landscape is changing daily. Conversations with folks at UW and Montlake Futures last month, for example, revealed little interest in playing the inducement game, but public statements made since then suggest that, actually, the donor collective would direct money from a donor to a recruit, if approached to do so."

DerekJohnson

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

OreDawg

Chances the NCAA will do anything substantive to punish schools is are about the same as UW making the CFP. Seems like a lot of wishful thinking on her part.

theknowledge

My buddy sent in the question. Sent me the reply this morning. Frustrating to say the least. Riding a high horse all the way to hell.

Tequilla

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

This made my blood boil

PurpleBaze

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

Wishful thinking, Jenny. Nothing is going to happen. Ask Grinolds - he's still waiting for the NCAA to drop the hammer on Oregon.

DerekJohnson

Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

I see no signs of hope from these people

Tequilla

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

I see no signs of hope from these people

Everything you cite from Jen highlights my biggest complaint about her being reactionary instead of visionary …

Hands tied by state ethics laws? Go down to Olympia and meet with influential people try to drive change.

Thinking schools will be made an example of isn’t based on any kind of reality because the first time a player gets made an example of that’s a major lawsuit the NCAA won’t win … but it follows with the elitist holier than thou “Washington Way” that she champions

All of her NIL stats are just window dressing to the actual issues and trying to provide ammo to fight back against the vocal minority that sees through the BS because the results are what exactly?

Her approach is why Campbell didn’t take the job despite influential people pushing for him and the fact that I received word on 2 different nights that he was in … clearly he never felt comfortable about what he was hearing when he slept on it.

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen that fits within Jen’s lack of imagination budgeting that is content with going from under $1.5M annually to a guaranteed $15M+ regardless of whether he succeeds or fails. What skin exactly does DeBoer have in the game to lose if recruiting falls off the cliff and he gets fired after Year 3? If he gets fired he can either early retire OR fall back into a comfortable OC career for the remaining 5-10 years of his career.

YellowSnow

Tequilla said:

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

This made my blood boil

You have to care first for your blood to boil.

LawDawg1

How the fuck is she an AD?

HairyBallsDawg

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

haie

HairyBallsDawg said:

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.

Tequilla

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

This made my blood boil

You have to care first for your blood to boil.

I’m really trying hard to care less

Tequilla

haie said:

HairyBallsDawg said:

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.

I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success

haie

Tequilla said:

haie said:

HairyBallsDawg said:

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.

I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success

Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

Fuck off doog.

TrumpsWall

Excuses are for losers.
Jen

Quietcowskee

haie said:

Tequilla said:

haie said:

HairyBallsDawg said:

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.

I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success

Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

Fuck off doog.

Wouldn’t the doog stance be to be bullish on the newly hired coach?

pawz

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

I see no signs of hope from these people

Tequilla said:

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

I see no signs of hope from these people

Everything you cite from Jen highlights my biggest complaint about her being reactionary instead of visionary …

Hands tied by state ethics laws? Go down to Olympia and meet with influential people try to drive change.

Thinking schools will be made an example of isn’t based on any kind of reality because the first time a player gets made an example of that’s a major lawsuit the NCAA won’t win … but it follows with the elitist holier than thou “Washington Way” that she champions

All of her NIL stats are just window dressing to the actual issues and trying to provide ammo to fight back against the vocal minority that sees through the BS because the results are what exactly?

Her approach is why Campbell didn’t take the job despite influential people pushing for him and the fact that I received word on 2 different nights that he was in … clearly he never felt comfortable about what he was hearing when he slept on it.

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen that fits within Jen’s lack of imagination budgeting that is content with going from under $1.5M annually to a guaranteed $15M+ regardless of whether he succeeds or fails. What skin exactly does DeBoer have in the game to lose if recruiting falls off the cliff and he gets fired after Year 3? If he gets fired he can either early retire OR fall back into a comfortable OC career for the remaining 5-10 years of his career.

In the end, DeBoner gets his.

#WeAreASteppingStoneSchool

Joey

haie said:

Tequilla said:

haie said:

HairyBallsDawg said:

Tequilla said:

In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.

In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.

I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success

Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

Fuck off doog.

Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn

YellowSnow

Tequilla said:

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

This made my blood boil

You have to care first for your blood to boil.

I’m really trying hard to care less

I think Jenn is an incompetent athletic direct and would be failing regardless of our being in the current NIL era shit show. But she's not in a position of being able to fix the sport, so I have a hard time getting fired up about her being in way over her head. If someone wants to Make College Football Great Again, maybe I'll come around.

MikeDamone

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

DerekJohnson said:

Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

This made my blood boil

You have to care first for your blood to boil.

This.

The program is over.