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DerekJohnson
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"First, I’d caution against assuming that anybody’s stance on anything related to NIL is ever definitive or final. The landscape is changing daily. Conversations with folks at UW and Montlake Futures last month, for example, revealed little interest in playing the inducement game, but public statements made since then suggest that, actually, the donor collective would direct money from a donor to a recruit, if approached to do so."


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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,355 Founders Club
    Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”
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  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,708 Founders Club
    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    YellowSnow said:

    Tequilla said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

    This made my blood boil
    You have to care first for your blood to boil.
    I’m really trying hard to care less
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,708 Founders Club
    edited May 2022
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
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  • TrumpsWall
    TrumpsWall Member Posts: 476
    Excuses are for losers.
    Jen
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  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,217 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Wouldn’t the doog stance be to be bullish on the newly hired coach?
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,447 Founders Club
    DerekJohnson said:

    Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

    Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

    I see no signs of hope from these people

    Tequilla said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Cohen cites that her hands are tied by state ethics laws. Then she wants schools made an example of. Then she claims half of her football is making money off NIL deals. Meaning what exactly?

    Also, Caple states in the article that DeBoer isn't bothered by UW's approach. How does he know? He's basing it off of DeBoer's public comments.

    I see no signs of hope from these people

    Everything you cite from Jen highlights my biggest complaint about her being reactionary instead of visionary …

    Hands tied by state ethics laws? Go down to Olympia and meet with influential people try to drive change.

    Thinking schools will be made an example of isn’t based on any kind of reality because the first time a player gets made an example of that’s a major lawsuit the NCAA won’t win … but it follows with the elitist holier than thou “Washington Way” that she champions

    All of her NIL stats are just window dressing to the actual issues and trying to provide ammo to fight back against the vocal minority that sees through the BS because the results are what exactly?

    Her approach is why Campbell didn’t take the job despite influential people pushing for him and the fact that I received word on 2 different nights that he was in … clearly he never felt comfortable about what he was hearing when he slept on it.

    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen that fits within Jen’s lack of imagination budgeting that is content with going from under $1.5M annually to a guaranteed $15M+ regardless of whether he succeeds or fails. What skin exactly does DeBoer have in the game to lose if recruiting falls off the cliff and he gets fired after Year 3? If he gets fired he can either early retire OR fall back into a comfortable OC career for the remaining 5-10 years of his career.
    In the end, DeBoner gets his.

    #WeAreASteppingStoneSchool

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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,256 Founders Club
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    YellowSnow said:

    Tequilla said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

    This made my blood boil
    You have to care first for your blood to boil.
    This.

    The program is over.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Well, that’s one way to look at I suppose.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,244 Founders Club
    MikeDamone said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Tequilla said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Cohen replied, in part: “There’s two issues at Washington that are concerning. One is that people are so breaking the rules with inducement. They’re taking kids away from schools. Until the NCAA starts to enforce it — and I think they will make an example of a couple schools. I think they have to. There’s a lot of pressure to do that. But we’re not going to be in that lane. You don’t want us to be in that lane. But we are in the lane of trying to find every student-athlete at Washington who wants an NIL deal, an NIL deal.”

    This made my blood boil
    You have to care first for your blood to boil.
    This.

    The program is over.
    I wonder if a non revenue sport or two will get cut or will enough TV revenue trickle in to keep us in the black?
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    How I see it:

    1. Cohen will probably retire if Hopkins needs to be fired and may retire anyway if he stays. She probably doesn't have the energy to lobby Olympia either.

    2. The program still has talent. The WRs get the most attention but the OL and DL could surprise to the upside (the LBs too if you include Dom Hampton).

    3. The staff seems to be finding their legs in recruiting and has a pretty good OV list coming up. Deboer and Co. haven't substantially complained about anything and appear to have confidence that they can find the guys they need while receiving a helping hand from the portal for the next class or two.

    4. There is a chance Montlake Futures gives in and buys a recruit or two...or finds a loophole to somehow sweeten the pot.

    5. There is likely so much we don't know and how this continues to evolve. Who knows what will happen.

    6. No matter what happens with Cohen and NIL, the bottom line is that DeBoer was a good hire and winning more games will create its own momentum. I am Doogin' hard on the Michigan State game. It's at Husky Stadium and in two games against them Penix went 58 for 80 (72.5%) for 606 yards (7.57 yards per attempt) with 5 TDs to 2 INTs (and he had 1 rushing TD).

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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,256 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    Greatest swerve in history. Haie’s swerve seems forced and unnecessary
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HFNY said:

    How I see it:

    1. Cohen will probably retire if Hopkins needs to be fired and may retire anyway if he stays. She probably doesn't have the energy to lobby Olympia either.

    2. The program still has talent. The WRs get the most attention but the OL and DL could surprise to the upside (the LBs too if you include Dom Hampton).

    3. The staff seems to be finding their legs in recruiting and has a pretty good OV list coming up. Deboer and Co. haven't substantially complained about anything and appear to have confidence that they can find the guys they need while receiving a helping hand from the portal for the next class or two.

    4. There is a chance Montlake Futures gives in and buys a recruit or two...or finds a loophole to somehow sweeten the pot.

    5. There is likely so much we don't know and how this continues to evolve. Who knows what will happen.

    6. No matter what happens with Cohen and NIL, the bottom line is that DeBoer was a good hire and winning more games will create its own momentum. I am Doogin' hard on the Michigan State game. It's at Husky Stadium and in two games against them Penix went 58 for 80 (72.5%) for 606 yards (7.57 yards per attempt) with 5 TDs to 2 INTs (and he had 1 rushing TD).


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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    Are you high? Wrestling in the 70s and 80s was unsurpassed. When was Wrestlmania 3? That’s what I thought.

    How old are you?
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    MikeDamone said:

    HFNY said:

    How I see it:

    1. Cohen will probably retire if Hopkins needs to be fired and may retire anyway if he stays. She probably doesn't have the energy to lobby Olympia either.

    2. The program still has talent. The WRs get the most attention but the OL and DL could surprise to the upside (the LBs too if you include Dom Hampton).

    3. The staff seems to be finding their legs in recruiting and has a pretty good OV list coming up. Deboer and Co. haven't substantially complained about anything and appear to have confidence that they can find the guys they need while receiving a helping hand from the portal for the next class or two.

    4. There is a chance Montlake Futures gives in and buys a recruit or two...or finds a loophole to somehow sweeten the pot.

    5. There is likely so much we don't know and how this continues to evolve. Who knows what will happen.

    6. No matter what happens with Cohen and NIL, the bottom line is that DeBoer was a good hire and winning more games will create its own momentum. I am Doogin' hard on the Michigan State game. It's at Husky Stadium and in two games against them Penix went 58 for 80 (72.5%) for 606 yards (7.57 yards per attempt) with 5 TDs to 2 INTs (and he had 1 rushing TD).


    I like how the official visits are looking, it's ok to Doog a little after Jimmy Lake: https://247sports.com/college/washington/Season/2023-Football/Visits/
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    MikeDamone said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    Are you high? Wrestling in the 70s and 80s was unsurpassed. When was Wrestlmania 3? That’s what I thought.

    How old are you?
    I am not high. I’m in my mid 30’s. I think it all has to do with being a kid and being into it. Wrestlemania 3 had to be in 86 or 87. I used to own a History of Wrestleman DVD.

    Anyone in their 30’s that watched wrestling loved the Attitude Era and the Monday Night Wars.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,195 Standard Supporter
    MikeDamone said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    RoadDawg55 said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HairyBallsDawg said:

    Tequilla said:


    In the end DeBoer until proven otherwise is a discounted knock off version of Petersen

    I'm okay with this as long as he doesn't walk away after 2 Pac12 championships but failing to win any NY6 games.
    In terms of development and focus on team chemistry and all that, sure.

    But Petersen rolled out a stale shit offense for 6 years, so the comparison ends there and "Teq" conveniently leaves that PowerPoint slide out.

    Cohen deserving to be fired while also getting the right coach can both be true.
    I don’t care what you roll out if you have the “success” that Petersen had … DeBoer will do well to sniff that success
    Petersen had 3 good seasons in 6 years and one of those (2017) he underachieved.

    And he was burned out before even taking the job. Wouldn't read the room and change his offense.

    I'll take a humble coach who lost 3 games in a stint over some coach that was stressing balls because he couldn't live up to his fluff fucking mountain west record.

    Fuck off doog.
    Hogan’s heel turn > Haie’s heel turn
    You’re the man for the wrestling references. They are all from the real glory day is 1996 to about 2000.

    Wrestling before that was boring. Wrestling after that is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
    Are you high? Wrestling in the 70s and 80s was unsurpassed. When was Wrestlmania 3? That’s what I thought.

    How old are you?
    Attitude era was best era, rather easily.
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