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A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs. -
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs. -
Ran the numbers because I was curious. Winker needs to bat .305 over his next 120 plate appearances to be at a .250 average after 400 ABs. Of course he could rip the cover off the ball and bat .400 but he’d need to go something like 15 for his next 15 ABs to get to .250 in “a couple of games”.RoadDawg55 said:
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs.
I do agree it’s fair to expect more and I think we’re starting to see it.
How good is Julio, holy shit.
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Mariners are again must watch baseball. Julio Rodriguez, holy shit!
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He’s so incredibly fun to watch, easy to see a very, very successful career. Basically does it all. 40/40 on the table in the next 3-4 years.
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Well, I thought he had gotten over .240 before a couple of hitless games (wrong) and he actually has more ABs than I thought. So I was wrong. Not the first time.RoadDawg55 said:
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs.
Still, one would expect, and the signs point to it, that Winker will hit better going forward than he has this season to date, probably a lot better. -
I'm not trying to be a statistician out here.FireTheJanitor said:
Ran the numbers because I was curious. Winker needs to bat .305 over his next 120 plate appearances to be at a .250 average after 400 ABs. Of course he could rip the cover off the ball and bat .400 but he’d need to go something like 15 for his next 15 ABs to get to .250 in “a couple of games”.RoadDawg55 said:
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs.
I do agree it’s fair to expect more and I think we’re starting to see it.
How good is Julio, holy shit.
For real I made a dumb, uninformed comment, but it wasn't from left field. Winker had a good stretch, and I think I did see him over .240 during one of those games where he was 2-2 starting out. He then went 0fer a few games.
Him, Frazier and Kelenic have been the main letdowns. Kelenic only needed to improve a bit in terms of BA and getting on base to help the team, but went backwards instead. Frazier, without hitting over .300, brings very little to the table and I don't see that changing much. The odds will play out eventually for Winker though. He's a good hitter and will be a key to the playoff run the Ms are going to go on. -
Shockingly, they're about to be only 1 game below .500 and are currently 4 back in the wildcard.
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chuck said:
I'm not trying to be a statistician out here.FireTheJanitor said:
Ran the numbers because I was curious. Winker needs to bat .305 over his next 120 plate appearances to be at a .250 average after 400 ABs. Of course he could rip the cover off the ball and bat .400 but he’d need to go something like 15 for his next 15 ABs to get to .250 in “a couple of games”.RoadDawg55 said:
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs.
I do agree it’s fair to expect more and I think we’re starting to see it.
How good is Julio, holy shit.
For real I made a dumb, uninformed comment, but it wasn't from left field. Winker had a good stretch, and I think I did see him over .240 during one of those games where he was 2-2 starting out. He then went 0fer a few games.
Him, Frazier and Kelenic have been the main letdowns. Kelenic only needed to improve a bit in terms of BA and getting on base to help the team, but went backwards instead. Frazier, without hitting over .300, brings very little to the table and I don't see that changing much. The odds will play out eventually for Winker though. He's a good hitter and will be a key to the playoff run the Ms are going to go on.
I agree and wasn’t trying to come across as a dick, if I did. Long story short, Winker isn’t far from a hot stretch putting his average in a more respectable territory. He was just starting to turn the corner Pre-fight, I think it’ll continue. Lot of ifs but feels like they are clicking for the first time as a group and more help should be on the way in Haniger and France. -
Don't be mean to me you dick!FireTheJanitor said:chuck said:
I'm not trying to be a statistician out here.FireTheJanitor said:
Ran the numbers because I was curious. Winker needs to bat .305 over his next 120 plate appearances to be at a .250 average after 400 ABs. Of course he could rip the cover off the ball and bat .400 but he’d need to go something like 15 for his next 15 ABs to get to .250 in “a couple of games”.RoadDawg55 said:
Career .277 hitter. Hit .305 last year. .255 and .269 the two years before. He’s hitting .226 right now. Half the season is over. It’s been three months, not one. It’s not a small sample size. It will take a lot more than two good games to get him to .250.chuck said:
A stretch? A guy who hasn't hit as poorly as .250 ever? You're basing what he will do off of a small sample, as you tend to do. One or two good games and he's over .250 right now. You saying a guy who has never hit that poorly can't sustain it because he's had a slow start?RoadDawg55 said:Lewis has performed for long enough that it’s more than potential. He’s legit if he can ever stay healthy.
Winker will hit .250 or so. .300 is a bit stretch.
I agree we haven’t even seen Julio’s best stretch. A 10 HR month is coming.
The Mariners still are irrelevant and won’t sniff the playoffs.
I do agree it’s fair to expect more and I think we’re starting to see it.
How good is Julio, holy shit.
For real I made a dumb, uninformed comment, but it wasn't from left field. Winker had a good stretch, and I think I did see him over .240 during one of those games where he was 2-2 starting out. He then went 0fer a few games.
Him, Frazier and Kelenic have been the main letdowns. Kelenic only needed to improve a bit in terms of BA and getting on base to help the team, but went backwards instead. Frazier, without hitting over .300, brings very little to the table and I don't see that changing much. The odds will play out eventually for Winker though. He's a good hitter and will be a key to the playoff run the Ms are going to go on.
I agree and wasn’t trying to come across as a dick, if I did. Long story short, Winker isn’t far from a hot stretch putting his average in a more respectable territory. He was just starting to turn the corner Pre-fight, I think it’ll continue. Lot of ifs but feels like they are clicking for the first time as a group and more help should be on the way in Haniger and France.
Actually I played with some numbers myself after I saw your post and was impressed with how far off I was.
Yeah it's always a bunch of "ifs" with the Mariners. I like the ifs better this year than I have in many years though. Fully healthy and out of early season slumps, they can compete with anyone and the hole they're in isn't really that deep st all.
