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There's a reason Starbucks is so big, despite their very average coffee. Prompt friendly service.SFGbob said:Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11.
That's a good insight that I've never ever thought about.
Too many drab indie shops in Seattle where the baristas always finish their social conversations before addressing a customer, then act annoyed that they actually have to perform a task.
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This is sadly true.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports. -
I tip 10% because half the effort is required. I once tipped a bitch ass waitress .01 because it was obvious this black chick did not like interracial couples. Food purposely delivered cold. Place was not busy at the time. Horrible attitude towards us. I've never done it before but we stopped on the way out and I cornered the manager. Told him his waitress was having a bad day and he needed to send her "ass" home. Dude hands me his card and a free dinner offer. Asked where we were seated, I said "black chick's section." Off he went.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
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Interesting. I waited tables at 3 different establishments and we never tipped out the line cooks. We did tip the hostesses and bussers though. I even cooked on the line at the RAM for a while.TurdBomber said:
I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.RoadTrip said:
I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.
My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.
Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.
Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.
Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch. -
In traveling around this past year, we tip more on the generous side - up to 30%. We do not do fast food but will do take out from restaurants. We tip usually $10-15 for the take out.
The service has been good at almost every place we have been, but this past weekend at a family gathering at the Marriot in Odessa, the waitress was the first time we had so so service. But at the same time a group of 12 without reservations walked in and asked for the restaurant to be re-arranged. So I still tipped well.
In the 3 weeks leading up to Christmas, we gave our waitresses (no waiters in Texas?) a $50 bill on top of the tip and told them Merry Christmas. We were just trying to give the economy a boost. Got some touching replies. Did that about 5-6 times.
Now because of this thread opening my eyes, I will quit tipping because it is raycist -
Non taxable?TurdBomber said:
I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.RoadTrip said:
I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.
My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.
Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.
Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.
Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch. -
46XiJCAB said:
I tip 10% because half the effort is required. I once tipped a bitch ass waitress .01 because it was obvious this black chick did not like interracial couples. Food purposely delivered cold. Place was not busy at the time. Horrible attitude towards us. I've never done it before but we stopped on the way out and I cornered the manager. Told him his waitress was having a bad day and he needed to send her "ass" home. Dude hands me his card and a free dinner offer. Asked where we were seated, I said "black chick's section." Off he went.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
What made it obvious she didn’t like mixed couples. I have hade many shitty attitudes and cold food served.
One thing I noticed is black people (and mixed couples apparently) site examples of being treated poorly because of their race and then give examples of shit that happens to everyone. It’s never the person was having a shitty or there was a mix up or misunderstanding. It always seems to be they are out for me because of my race.
Also, I don’t believe your story. -
It was quite simple. Watching her interactions with fellow diners. Especially the mother and daughter sitting in the next booth. Black. Bitch outed herself.MikeDamone said:46XiJCAB said:
I tip 10% because half the effort is required. I once tipped a bitch ass waitress .01 because it was obvious this black chick did not like interracial couples. Food purposely delivered cold. Place was not busy at the time. Horrible attitude towards us. I've never done it before but we stopped on the way out and I cornered the manager. Told him his waitress was having a bad day and he needed to send her "ass" home. Dude hands me his card and a free dinner offer. Asked where we were seated, I said "black chick's section." Off he went.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
What made it obvious she didn’t like mixed couples. I have hade many shitty attitudes and cold food served.
One thing I noticed is black people (and mixed couples apparently) site examples of being treated poorly because of their race and then give examples of shit that happens to everyone. It’s never the person was having a shitty or there was a mix up or misunderstanding. It always seems to be the are out for me because of my race. -
Does everyone have black guys come up to them when they're out in the club telling them that there is no way they're satisfying that black woman they're with? The number of times someone ever said anything to me and my wife was when we were dating many years ago and it was only a few times and it was always black males doing the talking. I didn't give a fuck. But I did find it interesting that my wife and I have travelled all over the West in some very small rural towns where she was the only black person within miles and I never heard a negative word from anyone, in fact I found that many times that people were overly solicitous as a way of wanting us to feel more comfortable.MikeDamone said:46XiJCAB said:
I tip 10% because half the effort is required. I once tipped a bitch ass waitress .01 because it was obvious this black chick did not like interracial couples. Food purposely delivered cold. Place was not busy at the time. Horrible attitude towards us. I've never done it before but we stopped on the way out and I cornered the manager. Told him his waitress was having a bad day and he needed to send her "ass" home. Dude hands me his card and a free dinner offer. Asked where we were seated, I said "black chick's section." Off he went.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
What made it obvious she didn’t like mixed couples. I have hade many shitty attitudes and cold food served.
One thing I noticed is black people (and mixed couples apparently) site examples of being treated poorly because of their race and then give examples of shit that happens to everyone. It’s never the person was having a shitty or there was a mix up or misunderstanding. It always seems to be they are out for me because of my race.
Also, I don’t believe your story.
Again, this was all many years ago, mixed race couples are way more common now. From what I see on TV, all couples are mixed race, or gay. -
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports. -
If I am just picking up food I give 3 or 4 bucks... and same amount for a small order or double that.... you aren't really serving Me at that pointSFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
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What about Jews? Any word?Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.
Do you have a black wife too? That seems to be a real popular thing among the tugcons -
30 percent is getting ridiculousRoadTrip said:
Do they understand the bare minimum expectation should be 15% unless the service was bad? Do they understand that most people with decent means and a modicum of human decency tip 20-30%? Moreover, do they understand how to determine what 15-30% of the tab is? I ask because many people surprisingly do not.SFGbob said:
Had plenty of dinning experiences with members of my wife's family. They're all lousy tippers. I'll pick up the tab and tell them they can leave the tip and they still tip like crap. I don't know what it is but blaming slavery is pretty fucking pathetic.WestlinnDuck said:
My friend was a waiter at the Heathman in downtown Portland and the bane of his existence was No tippin Clyde the Glide. My daughter waitressed in Eugene part-time while a student and her beef was with native Chinese. Sexual harassment and crummy tips.RaceBannon said:No tippin Scottie Pippin is no racist
I rarely go out to eat, but I'll tip the bartender, Llyft, or barber 15-25 depending on the service. I even tip hotel maids. But I can't stand the fucking options that come up that include a 58% tip. GTFO. Pay them more then. Don't pass the burden on to us. -
Have no clue how they tip... as I don't ask their religion. It's easy to tell the others...I've been a driver for 5 years in San Francisco and talked to numerous other white black, Latino drivers men and women drivers and they all had the same opinion... I've also talked to servers about it and they said it too. Sorry the truth hurts.MikeDamone said:
What about Jews? Any word?Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.
Do you have a black wife too? That seems to be a real popular thing among the tugcons
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I thought you were a driver in N Idaho. Keep your story straight.Goduckies said:
Have no clue how they tip... as I don't ask their religion. It's easy to tell the others...I've been a driver for 5 years in San Francisco and talked to numerous other white black, Latino drivers men and women drivers and they all had the same opinion... I've also talked to servers about it and they said it too. Sorry the truth hurts.MikeDamone said:
What about Jews? Any word?Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.
Do you have a black wife too? That seems to be a real popular thing among the tugconshttps://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk -
My wife is a generous tipper. She's black. Obviously she wasn't raised right.
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She ain't black. If she read to your kids, then just a race traitor.46XiJCAB said:My wife is a generous tipper. She's black. Obviously she wasn't raised right.
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If you get an older Indian person (dot not feather), expect nothing for a tip.Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports. -
I feel like I just chuck tips around when I go out because I'm too lazy to do the math in my head. Eh fuck it close enough to 20
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It's been hard helping our kids navigate "white" ways of teaching.WestlinnDuck said:
She ain't black. If she read to your kids, then just a race traitor.46XiJCAB said:My wife is a generous tipper. She's black. Obviously she wasn't raised right.
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The land under their feet is tip enough am I right?Swaye said:I only tip for exceptional service. If you suck, expect to be rewarded with fuckall.
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How dare you .gifUW_Doog_Bot said:
The land under their feet is tip enough am I right?Swaye said:I only tip for exceptional service. If you suck, expect to be rewarded with fuckall.
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I am now, I was in SF for most my life.MikeDamone said:
I thought you were a driver in N Idaho. Keep your story straight.Goduckies said:
Have no clue how they tip... as I don't ask their religion. It's easy to tell the others...I've been a driver for 5 years in San Francisco and talked to numerous other white black, Latino drivers men and women drivers and they all had the same opinion... I've also talked to servers about it and they said it too. Sorry the truth hurts.MikeDamone said:
What about Jews? Any word?Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.
Do you have a black wife too? That seems to be a real popular thing among the tugconshttps://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk -
I got a 20 buck tip once from an older Indian woman, shocked the shit out of me!RoadDawg55 said:
If you get an older Indian person (dot not feather), expect nothing for a tip.Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports. -
I dated two black women in my 20's. There were hardly any black people in Seattle so I never ran into what you did but the mothers were a different story. Both relationships came to an end by me being met at their door by their mothers. Both said their daughters were going to marry in their race, and that was the end of me. When I was single, the first sign of difficulty in a relationship and I was gone so in both cases it didn't bother me in the least.SFGbob said:
Does everyone have black guys come up to them when they're out in the club telling them that there is no way they're satisfying that black woman they're with? The number of times someone ever said anything to me and my wife was when we were dating many years ago and it was only a few times and it was always black males doing the talking. I didn't give a fuck. But I did find it interesting that my wife and I have travelled all over the West in some very small rural towns where she was the only black person within miles and I never heard a negative word from anyone, in fact I found that many times that people were overly solicitous as a way of wanting us to feel more comfortable.MikeDamone said:46XiJCAB said:
I tip 10% because half the effort is required. I once tipped a bitch ass waitress .01 because it was obvious this black chick did not like interracial couples. Food purposely delivered cold. Place was not busy at the time. Horrible attitude towards us. I've never done it before but we stopped on the way out and I cornered the manager. Told him his waitress was having a bad day and he needed to send her "ass" home. Dude hands me his card and a free dinner offer. Asked where we were seated, I said "black chick's section." Off he went.SFGbob said:
Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?Kaepsknee said:I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.
What made it obvious she didn’t like mixed couples. I have hade many shitty attitudes and cold food served.
One thing I noticed is black people (and mixed couples apparently) site examples of being treated poorly because of their race and then give examples of shit that happens to everyone. It’s never the person was having a shitty or there was a mix up or misunderstanding. It always seems to be they are out for me because of my race.
Also, I don’t believe your story.
Again, this was all many years ago, mixed race couples are way more common now. From what I see on TV, all couples are mixed race, or gay. -
UW_Doog_Bot said:
The land under their feet is tip enough am I right?Swaye said:I only tip for exceptional service. If you suck, expect to be rewarded with fuckall.
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I N Idaho or San Francisco?Goduckies said:
I got a 20 buck tip once from an older Indian woman, shocked the shit out of me!RoadDawg55 said:
If you get an older Indian person (dot not feather), expect nothing for a tip.Goduckies said:
Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.SFGbob said:Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.
A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports. -
My thoughts on tipping:
1. It's literally people voluntarily giving workers extra money. Imagine thinking this is a bad thing.
2. It should only occur when paying for a luxury service, such as dining at a full service restaurant or having food delivered to your house.
3. In some states it's legal to pay servers half or significantly less than minimum wage, and I agree that is bullshit. Tipping is a solution for low wage workers to earn more, not a reason for businesses to pay them less.
4. Tips shouldn't be expected. I was a server for years, and overall I made damn good money. The secret is to always have the mentality that nobody owes you a tip. You have to constantly earn it. At one point I went 6+ months in a row with every table tipping me. No stiffs. Other servers would complain about a stiff at least once or twice a week. I'd always say to them "what could you have done better?"
5. If we eliminate tipping and instead charge customers more, we are still paying the same for the service, but without the option to give more or less based on the service received. It also removes the internal reward of feeling about giving somebody some extra money. People LIKE to tip. -
Yeah, if it's not a luxury, they shouldn't be shoving a tip screen in people's faces. I had my phone repaired awhile back for about $150, and the phone repair shop shoved a tip screen in my face with 15% being the lowest option. Wtf.Pitchfork51 said:I always feel awkward when I go to a fast casual type of place and they flip the thing around to sign with my finger and theres the option for a tip. Like what. no. why you puttin me on the spot.
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Word to the wise - tip your hair stylist/barber or you'll end up looking like the Dazzler.
