Thousands of child rapes and human trafficking at border
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I acknowledge they are people. I do not acknowledge any reason they should be let inTheKobeStopper said:
Just because you can imagine something worse doesn’t mean it’s not cruel.Bob_C said:
How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.TheKobeStopper said:
I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.Bob_C said:Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.
Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?
I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.
But I would point to this part of that article
The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.
So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.
My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
This is a pretty consistent disagreement between right and left. When it comes to things like immigration or abortion, the right prefers to be extremely heavy handed, to the point that IMO it crosses into cruel and unusual. The left prefers to acknowledge people are going to do these things and how can we make it safer.
Like that article says, some women were taking contraceptives before leaving. They knew the risk of getting raped was there and they still chose to try. Think about how fucking cruel you’d have to be then to stop them from trying.
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No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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Why?TheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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I remember when the left denied they were for open bordersTheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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It's all about the feels.
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It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.RaceBannon said:
I remember when the left denied they were for open bordersTheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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No it isn't. It's a dream of the left: no borders, no religion, no police, no private property, no one works, but somehow everyone magically has all the luxury items they get now from mommy and daddy. John Lennon's song isn't reality.TheKobeStopper said:
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.RaceBannon said:
I remember when the left denied they were for open bordersTheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
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We have libertarians hereTheKobeStopper said:
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.RaceBannon said:
I remember when the left denied they were for open bordersTheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
I'll wait to hear -
You just heard from one.RaceBannon said:
We have libertarians hereTheKobeStopper said:
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.RaceBannon said:
I remember when the left denied they were for open bordersTheKobeStopper said:
They should. Open borders, everywhere.hardhat said:No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
I'll wait to hear
