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Thousands of child rapes and human trafficking at border

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Liberals will crush the left

    Hide and watch
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Mostly peaceful child rapes
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    hardhat said:

    Is there a source or is it just from Steve Bannon’s white nationalist mouth?

    Yes there is, fucktard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/21/us-border-agents-shocking-abuses-asylum-seekers
    Another report recounts an incident in 2018 when a male asylum seeker was detained and taken to a detention center in San Ysidro, California. An officer told the man that “if he gave him sex, he would be set free”, and when the detainee refused “the officer swore at him in English and said that he would be locked up as punishment”.

    A stash of redacted documents released to the human rights group after six years of legal tussles uncover more than 160 cases of misconduct and abuse by leading government agencies, notably Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Border Patrol. The papers record events between 2016 and 2021 that range from child sexual assault to enforced hunger, threats of rape and brutal detention conditions.

    A Honduran asylum seeker reported conditions in the McAllen facility in 2019: “I was there for 10 days sitting, I couldn’t move because it was 67 of us in that cell. We said we needed toilet paper and water and … we reported the animals, the scorpions in there. There were scorpions, ants, ticks, fleas and they would tell us that it was fine, it was because of our own stink of being there 45 days.”

    Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse

    I understand not wanting to read the article but that last one is the subheading. Be better.
    So there isn't a big problem with abuse and trafficking at the boarder? Because Trump?

    Did I get that right?
    DJ has claimed there are thousands of rapes happening at the border and the left is silent about it. I have requested any kind of source, none has been provided. The stuff that happened under Trump isnt relevant because we weren’t silent about it.
    You mean like the kids in cages that started under Obama?
    People forget that.

    Liberals are the worst. Well, almost.
    Liberals are good. I am one. Love them. It’s leftists like you who are the worst.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I honestly dont care. Quit trying to hop the border.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    I honestly dont care. Quit trying to hop the border.

    I've been to the border, we're going to the border...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    hardhat said:

    Is there a source or is it just from Steve Bannon’s white nationalist mouth?

    Yes there is, fucktard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/21/us-border-agents-shocking-abuses-asylum-seekers
    Another report recounts an incident in 2018 when a male asylum seeker was detained and taken to a detention center in San Ysidro, California. An officer told the man that “if he gave him sex, he would be set free”, and when the detainee refused “the officer swore at him in English and said that he would be locked up as punishment”.

    A stash of redacted documents released to the human rights group after six years of legal tussles uncover more than 160 cases of misconduct and abuse by leading government agencies, notably Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Border Patrol. The papers record events between 2016 and 2021 that range from child sexual assault to enforced hunger, threats of rape and brutal detention conditions.

    A Honduran asylum seeker reported conditions in the McAllen facility in 2019: “I was there for 10 days sitting, I couldn’t move because it was 67 of us in that cell. We said we needed toilet paper and water and … we reported the animals, the scorpions in there. There were scorpions, ants, ticks, fleas and they would tell us that it was fine, it was because of our own stink of being there 45 days.”

    Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse

    I understand not wanting to read the article but that last one is the subheading. Be better.
    So there isn't a big problem with abuse and trafficking at the boarder? Because Trump?

    Did I get that right?
    DJ has claimed there are thousands of rapes happening at the border and the left is silent about it. I have requested any kind of source, none has been provided. The stuff that happened under Trump isnt relevant because we weren’t silent about it.
    You mean like the kids in cages that started under Obama?
    People forget that.

    Liberals are the worst. Well, almost.
    Liberals are good. I am one. Love them. It’s leftists like you who are the worst.
    Same

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    Is there a source or is it just from Steve Bannon’s white nationalist mouth?

    Yes there is, fucktard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/21/us-border-agents-shocking-abuses-asylum-seekers
    Another report recounts an incident in 2018 when a male asylum seeker was detained and taken to a detention center in San Ysidro, California. An officer told the man that “if he gave him sex, he would be set free”, and when the detainee refused “the officer swore at him in English and said that he would be locked up as punishment”.

    A stash of redacted documents released to the human rights group after six years of legal tussles uncover more than 160 cases of misconduct and abuse by leading government agencies, notably Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Border Patrol. The papers record events between 2016 and 2021 that range from child sexual assault to enforced hunger, threats of rape and brutal detention conditions.

    A Honduran asylum seeker reported conditions in the McAllen facility in 2019: “I was there for 10 days sitting, I couldn’t move because it was 67 of us in that cell. We said we needed toilet paper and water and … we reported the animals, the scorpions in there. There were scorpions, ants, ticks, fleas and they would tell us that it was fine, it was because of our own stink of being there 45 days.”

    Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse

    I understand not wanting to read the article but that last one is the subheading. Be better.
    So there isn't a big problem with abuse and trafficking at the boarder? Because Trump?

    Did I get that right?
    DJ has claimed there are thousands of rapes happening at the border and the left is silent about it. I have requested any kind of source, none has been provided. The stuff that happened under Trump isnt relevant because we weren’t silent about it.
    You mean like the kids in cages that started under Obama?
    People forget that.

    Liberals are the worst. Well, almost.
    Liberals are good. I am one. Love them. It’s leftists like you who are the worst.
    Same

    yeah but you're a racist and a fascist
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2022

    Is there a source or is it just from Steve Bannon’s white nationalist mouth?

    Yes there is, fucktard.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/21/us-border-agents-shocking-abuses-asylum-seekers
    Another report recounts an incident in 2018 when a male asylum seeker was detained and taken to a detention center in San Ysidro, California. An officer told the man that “if he gave him sex, he would be set free”, and when the detainee refused “the officer swore at him in English and said that he would be locked up as punishment”.

    A stash of redacted documents released to the human rights group after six years of legal tussles uncover more than 160 cases of misconduct and abuse by leading government agencies, notably Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Border Patrol. The papers record events between 2016 and 2021 that range from child sexual assault to enforced hunger, threats of rape and brutal detention conditions.

    A Honduran asylum seeker reported conditions in the McAllen facility in 2019: “I was there for 10 days sitting, I couldn’t move because it was 67 of us in that cell. We said we needed toilet paper and water and … we reported the animals, the scorpions in there. There were scorpions, ants, ticks, fleas and they would tell us that it was fine, it was because of our own stink of being there 45 days.”

    Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse

    I understand not wanting to read the article but that last one is the subheading. Be better.
    So there isn't a big problem with abuse and trafficking at the boarder? Because Trump?

    Did I get that right?
    DJ has claimed there are thousands of rapes happening at the border and the left is silent about it. I have requested any kind of source, none has been provided. The stuff that happened under Trump isnt relevant because we weren’t silent about it.
    It was happening when we weren't allowing them to flood the nation. Imagine how bad it is when the numbers exceeded 2 million illegals for last year. Allowing it to occur is treason and Biden should be charged.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Spoiler alert.

    Child smugglers are usually not the best of people
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,635 Founders Club
    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    Lame
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    We can't let the world in

    Discouraging the attempt is kind. Opening the borders and allowing the rapes isn't

    Hence your cruel
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022
    TKS just wants oppressed people to have safe passage to the USA, free healthcare for all, free education for all, a living wage for all and LQBTQ rights. I guess that makes him a bad person to you wing nuts.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    We can't let the world in

    Discouraging the attempt is kind. Opening the borders and allowing the rapes isn't

    Hence your cruel
    *you're
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,635 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,331 Founders Club

    TKS just wants oppressed people to have safe passage to the USA, free healthcare for all, free education for all, a living wage for all and LQBTQ rights. I guess that makes him a bad person to you wing nuts.

    Don't forget none of these people are to be vaccinated
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    If they weren't invited by our criminal in chief they wouldn't be getting raped. You voted for this. This is your fault. Own it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    We can't let the world in

    Discouraging the attempt is kind. Opening the borders and allowing the rapes isn't

    Hence your cruel
    *you're
    Thank your
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.
    Just because you can imagine something worse doesn’t mean it’s not cruel.

    This is a pretty consistent disagreement between right and left. When it comes to things like immigration or abortion, the right prefers to be extremely heavy handed, to the point that IMO it crosses into cruel and unusual. The left prefers to acknowledge people are going to do these things and how can we make it safer.

    Like that article says, some women were taking contraceptives before leaving. They knew the risk of getting raped was there and they still chose to try. Think about how fucking cruel you’d have to be then to stop them from trying.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.

    Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?

    I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.

    I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.

    But I would point to this part of that article

    The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.

    So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.

    My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
    How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.
    Just because you can imagine something worse doesn’t mean it’s not cruel.

    This is a pretty consistent disagreement between right and left. When it comes to things like immigration or abortion, the right prefers to be extremely heavy handed, to the point that IMO it crosses into cruel and unusual. The left prefers to acknowledge people are going to do these things and how can we make it safer.

    Like that article says, some women were taking contraceptives before leaving. They knew the risk of getting raped was there and they still chose to try. Think about how fucking cruel you’d have to be then to stop them from trying.
    I acknowledge they are people. I do not acknowledge any reason they should be let in

    Go to the back of the fucking line of the bleeding rectum bitch
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    Why?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    It's all about the feels.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
    It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited February 2022

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
    It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
    No it isn't. It's a dream of the left: no borders, no religion, no police, no private property, no one works, but somehow everyone magically has all the luxury items they get now from mommy and daddy. John Lennon's song isn't reality.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
    It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
    We have libertarians here

    I'll wait to hear
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    hardhat said:

    No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.


    They should. Open borders, everywhere.
    I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
    It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
    We have libertarians here

    I'll wait to hear
    You just heard from one.