No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
We have libertarians here
I'll wait to hear
You just heard from one.
What happened to being a “Democratic Socialist”?
Kobe changes definitions as frequently as I change clothes.
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
We have libertarians here
I'll wait to hear
You just heard from one.
What happened to being a “Democratic Socialist”?
Kobe changes definitions as frequently as I change clothes.
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
We have libertarians here
I'll wait to hear
You just heard from one.
What happened to being a “Democratic Socialist”?
Kobe changes definitions as frequently as I change clothes.
These things are not in conflict.
Ok, Commie.
have you ever had an original thought without the googles?
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I gave you a fuck off but it was one of those fuck off's where I actually respect the fact you aren't afraid to just say what you want. So the fuck off is because the content of your thoughts are complete lunacy, but a respectful fuck off for having some balls to just go with it.
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
We have libertarians here
I'll wait to hear
You just heard from one.
What happened to being a “Democratic Socialist”?
Kobe changes definitions as frequently as I change clothes.
No country is going to have a border policy where they want to make it 'safer for people to cross'. I'd like to ask any of these progressive types if they have any self awareness at all.
They should. Open borders, everywhere.
I remember when the left denied they were for open borders
It’s a libertarian thing, statists like you wouldn’t understand.
We have libertarians here
I'll wait to hear
You just heard from one.
Geezus, slobberer, I've sh*t bigger libertarians than you. Libertarians live on Planet Make Believe as far as open border go. They would also deny all government welfare programs for everyone, not just illegals. Your side thinks that making the US the world's welfare magnet is going to make the US a better place for everyone. It won't. Just look at California. Highest US welfare rate. Almost the US's worst public schools. Homelessness and crime exploding. Your side is just killing it.
Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.
Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?
I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.
I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.
But I would point to this part of that article
The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.
So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.
My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.
Just because you can imagine something worse doesn’t mean it’s not cruel.
This is a pretty consistent disagreement between right and left. When it comes to things like immigration or abortion, the right prefers to be extremely heavy handed, to the point that IMO it crosses into cruel and unusual. The left prefers to acknowledge people are going to do these things and how can we make it safer.
Like that article says, some women were taking contraceptives before leaving. They knew the risk of getting raped was there and they still chose to try. Think about how fucking cruel you’d have to be then to stop them from trying.
So. What you are saying is that rape is going to happen, so we should make it safer. Perhaps they should just lie back and let it happen if it's going to happen and try to enjoy it. Seems like a great platform. Winner.
Last 12 months there have more than 2x the amount of single minor encounters at the border vs 2019 and over 3x in single adult encounters. That’s with roughly the same number of border agents.
Read a Huff Po piece from 2014 that estimates between 60-80% of under 18 girls are raped on their journey to the border. Probably a bullshit number, but I don’t write the rules. So unless the cartels have softened, why would we assume that raw volume of people headed to the border doesn’t lead to more rapes?
I appreciate an actual attempt to explain it.
I read the Huffpo article and while the links to the studies are dead, I’m willing to concede those numbers. I think we’d all agree there has been some exaggerating of rape statistics but you could cut those numbers in half and it would still be horrible.
But I would point to this part of that article
The assaults are so common that many women and girls take contraceptives beforehand as preventative measures.
So some of them know the risks going in and still choose to try and cross.
My response is let’s make it safer for them to cross. Yours is let’s make it so horrible for those that are desperate to cross that less will try. Hence, the cruelty is the point.
How does making it safer for them to cross eliminate rapes leading up to them crossing? If it was “safer” wouldn’t even more rapes occur as even more people would be trying? Cruelty would be putting sharks in the Rio Grande.
Just because you can imagine something worse doesn’t mean it’s not cruel.
This is a pretty consistent disagreement between right and left. When it comes to things like immigration or abortion, the right prefers to be extremely heavy handed, to the point that IMO it crosses into cruel and unusual. The left prefers to acknowledge people are going to do these things and how can we make it safer.
Like that article says, some women were taking contraceptives before leaving. They knew the risk of getting raped was there and they still chose to try. Think about how fucking cruel you’d have to be then to stop them from trying.
So. What you are saying is that rape is going to happen, so we should make it safer. Perhaps they should just lie back and let it happen if it's going to happen and try to enjoy it. Seems like a great platform. Winner.
Your inability to differentiate between a systemic response and an individual response is noted.
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Kobe changes definitions as frequently as I change clothes.
have you ever had an original thought without the googles?
What in the actual fuck? That's not 'fair'.
RACISTS!!!