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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    That's you're fucking reasoning?

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    Yeah, big boy football. Jesus
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    He has no comeback because he knows it's embarrassing. Oregon may not ever schedule Boise again.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,225 Standard Supporter
    @haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

    xoxo
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    thechatch said:

    @haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

    xoxo

    Can he bring his UW diploma?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    @haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

    xoxo

    Imagine getting to this point. "the box" of that tiny little stadium. lol, must be impressive to your vacuum distributors.

    I'd do a rafting trip down the McKenzie river with you guys but that's about it.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    thechatch said:

    @haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

    xoxo

    Can he bring his UW diploma?
    Sure, if you bring your Lane diploma.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    If I recall correctly, CP didn't keep his foot on the gas as much as Oregon rolled over. Would it have made as much of a difference anyway if UW had scored 60 or 63 points instead of 70?

    But back UW Football, besides our Lord and Savior Pat Haden, maybe we(?) I formally propose adding Bobby Hauck to the pantheon of greatness for kicking off (or at least accelerating) the beginning of the end for Lake.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    Is it primarily because of NIL or do the coaches suck at recruiting?
  • bluechipuwrecruits
    bluechipuwrecruits Member Posts: 394
    Great, that is all that we can expect going forward.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,869 Founders Club
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    I saw we just offered an unrated QB from South Dakota. Over on dawgman they are celebrating this as proof that our coaches are leaving no stone unturned in finding the best players
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    Is it primarily because of NIL or do the coaches suck at recruiting?
    Part of it is NIL but a big part is they just don't have the coaches who can recruit.
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    Putting only 70 on your team was taking his foot off the gas.

    That team could have hung 105 on those quacks.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    Is it primarily because of NIL or do the coaches suck at recruiting?
    Part of it is NIL but a big part is they just don't have the coaches who can recruit.
    No one's getting on all fours and woofing enough?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    Putting only 70 on your team was taking his foot off the gas.

    That team could have hung 105 on those quacks.
    They still had the entire rest of the season to go.

    Pete took his foot off the gas when he made shitty in game decisions, recruited soft players to appease the boosters, and then refused to fix his mess in 2019.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    Putting only 70 on your team was taking his foot off the gas.

    That team could have hung 105 on those quacks.
    OK!
  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    HFNY said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    If I recall correctly, CP didn't keep his foot on the gas as much as Oregon rolled over. Would it have made as much of a difference anyway if UW had scored 60 or 63 points instead of 70?

    But back UW Football, besides our Lord and Savior Pat Haden, maybe we(?) I formally propose adding Bobby Hauck to the pantheon of greatness for kicking off (or at least accelerating) the beginning of the end for Lake.
    Up 5 touchdowns, 56-21 in the 4th qtr, Browning was still slingin’ the rock, driving uw to score a td, going up 63-21. Browning was still in the game for the next scoring drive. So was John Ross, and the rest of the starters.

    How the fuck is that taking your foot off the gas?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    dOgmaster said:

    HFNY said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    I'm always skeptical of the evaluation metrics thing. It usually seems to be a cop out for simply not being able to win recruiting battles.

    I don't see a situation where recruits don't see themselves playing over the guys who got rag dolled in a shit Pac-12 last year, especially with a completely new staff coming in.

    My one sliver optimism is I'm very curious to see how the NIL plays out. Will there be an advantage to teams/programs that are more building culture and team with players that actually want to be there opposed to players who just are there because of the money. Unless you're the same Top 5-6 programs that can stack five stars on five stars AND have good coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if the next best teams every year are more teams that want it more instead of the A&Ms and Oregons where guys are going simply for money and weird clout.

    It's a cop out for some staffs, like Colorado. For Petersen's staff it was not. For Leech's staff it was not. For this staff, who finished 2nd/3rd in the MW but had bottom half recruits on paper in that league, it was not.

    If there's an established starter on a bad team, I don't think recruits think they are just going to supplant them. Some lt recruit isn't going to think, "Yeah I should be able to come to Washington and take Kirkland's spot because his OL was shit last year."

    It's definitely situational, and this roster is pretty backed up. 2021 and 2022 were supposed to be the years we would have a lot of success because of numbers.

    A lot of programs have already shown that you need a roster that gives a shit, and that will overcome a roster full of mercs that don't care about what school they are at.
    Things delusional people say.
    We'll see how bitch boy does this season when his GameDay tasks become more than getting the post game kegs for the staff.
    MWC tuff.
    You've never beaten Boise State yet you say shit like this.

    Quook!
    You lost to MT, STFU idiot.
    We have beaten Montana by 40+ in the last 5 years.

    You have never, ever beaten Boise State.

    Unsurprising you can't process anything anyone says here.
    BSU plays big boy football. You lost to JV league team. Process that! Lol.
    Even Sark plundered Boise State. The Montana loss is a stain but life wouldn’t be better if we squeaked that one out. Jimmy would have still been the same shitty coach.
    If Peterson were half as smart as he's given credit for he would have taken his foot off the gas to keep Sling Blade around, much like Kelly did with Sark each year. I'll always thank him for not doing the smart thing.
    If I recall correctly, CP didn't keep his foot on the gas as much as Oregon rolled over. Would it have made as much of a difference anyway if UW had scored 60 or 63 points instead of 70?

    But back UW Football, besides our Lord and Savior Pat Haden, maybe we(?) I formally propose adding Bobby Hauck to the pantheon of greatness for kicking off (or at least accelerating) the beginning of the end for Lake.
    Up 5 touchdowns, 56-21 in the 4th qtr, Browning was still slingin’ the rock, driving uw to score a td, going up 63-21. Browning was still in the game for the next scoring drive. So was John Ross, and the rest of the starters.

    How the fuck is that taking your foot off the gas?
    There were times Kelly could have scored 100 on Sark but he actually liked the guy so it was run, run, run, punt. Pete didn't do that. His ass was too chapped.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,225 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    @haie i really feel like you should come down for a game at Autzen. If you can make the drive to Aurora, we’ll fly you down and let you sit up in the box with us, and you can tell everyone there all about how inferior they are while you drink vodka sodes on us. We usually have a couple customers in tow, so you’ll need to try and hold it mostly together. After all, they buy a lot of vacuum cleaners from us.

    xoxo

    Imagine getting to this point. "the box" of that tiny little stadium. lol, must be impressive to your vacuum distributors.

    I'd do a rafting trip down the McKenzie river with you guys but that's about it.
    Hey it’s gotta be better than sitting in the Montlake rain, watching the huskies lose again. Tell us one more time about sitting next to the Conerlys at Husky Stadium….don’t think that’s gonna happen again anytime soon.

    The invitation is there, @haie

    Come spend some time with your lessers.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    Deboer and his staff are doing everything the right way when you are trying to build a program and get recruits. But when I see them throw out offers all across America, plus watching what is going on in the state, and West Coast all I can think of is the saying nice guys finish last.

    Their issues as it pertains to this class (which will be the third "sub-optimal" class in a row) is by the time the season kicks off the majority of their plan A guys will be committed to other schools so even going 10-2 or better won't help with 95% of them who haven't seriously every considered us, which means we will be vying for plan B and C guys and I believe even then the plan B guys will use UW as their back-up plan in case they don't get the offer they really want.

    And in regards to the Doog dream that was Morgan, his current position at UW falls somewhere between hypeman at MLM, timeshare presentations and fluffer in the X-rated movie genre. If recuits don't see and know how little interaction they will have with him once on campus, their parents certainly will and will let them know.

    Kalen has a monumental task ahead of him to try and fix this.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    godawgst said:

    Some pretty pathetic recruiting going on for Washington right now. They have absolutely no buzz in Socal and are barely in contention for any four-star recruits. Oh, and the effect people thought Courtney Morgan would have was utterly over-hyped. He's made minimal impact besides getting us some courtesy visits from a few recruits.

    Deboer and his staff are doing everything the right way when you are trying to build a program and get recruits. But when I see them throw out offers all across America, plus watching what is going on in the state, and West Coast all I can think of is the saying nice guys finish last.

    Their issues as it pertains to this class (which will be the third "sub-optimal" class in a row) is by the time the season kicks off the majority of their plan A guys will be committed to other schools so even going 10-2 or better won't help with 95% of them who haven't seriously every considered us, which means we will be vying for plan B and C guys and I believe even then the plan B guys will use UW as their back-up plan in case they don't get the offer they really want.

    And in regards to the Doog dream that was Morgan, his current position at UW falls somewhere between hypeman at MLM, timeshare presentations and fluffer in the X-rated movie genre. If recuits don't see and know how little interaction they will have with him once on campus, their parents certainly will and will let them know.

    Kalen has a monumental task ahead of him to try and fix this.
    It definitely looks and feels like KDB is in over his head when it comes to recruiting

    Either way though he gets $15M+ win or lose