Deboer just followed Kenny "Trill" Hill. TCU QB coach. I assume he'll take on that role here. Going to be a great recruiter, elite personality.
Christ that guy is already a QB coach? I don't give a shit how he recruits, that position coach needs to develop more than anything. That would be an odd fit here.
As if Kalen Deboer didn't turn Jake Haener into one of the best QBs in the country lmao.
Right, so bring those coaches with him.
DeBoer is the qb expert.
elite programs have guys that are bagman/recruiters on staff in semi bullshit roles that allow the developers to work with elite athletes m. It's not hard. Hire good coordinators and recruit your dick off
Kind of true. But you can see how to fuck this up like Ohio st on the defensive side of the ball.
The real key is the assistants need to be competent and feel Pressure to recruit and have their guys perform. Jimmy ran a country club for assts. Pete was starting to and knew he needed to can some friends but didn’t have it in him.
DeBoer is encouraging because whether or not williams works out as a hire it shows he is trying. And if the payoff for williams doesn’t work, you cut bait and figure something else out. But we literally haven’t been trying to win for years and it’s stupid.
Deboer just followed Kenny "Trill" Hill. TCU QB coach. I assume he'll take on that role here. Going to be a great recruiter, elite personality.
Christ that guy is already a QB coach? I don't give a shit how he recruits, that position coach needs to develop more than anything. That would be an odd fit here.
As if Kalen Deboer didn't turn Jake Haener into one of the best QBs in the country lmao.
Right, so bring those coaches with him.
They are? They didn't have a QB coach. He's bringing Grubb, Marks, and Moore. I don't have any info on this just reading some tea leaves
Fair enough. If we get Grubb and can replicate the Haener magic, let Kenny Trill bang coeds and close moms in living rooms.
Deboer just followed Kenny "Trill" Hill. TCU QB coach. I assume he'll take on that role here. Going to be a great recruiter, elite personality.
Christ that guy is already a QB coach? I don't give a shit how he recruits, that position coach needs to develop more than anything. That would be an odd fit here.
As if Kalen Deboer didn't turn Jake Haener into one of the best QBs in the country lmao.
Right, so bring those coaches with him.
They are? They didn't have a QB coach. He's bringing Grubb, Marks, and Moore. I don't have any info on this just reading some tea leaves
Fair enough. If we get Grubb and can replicate the Haener magic, let Kenny Trill bang coeds and close moms in living rooms.
He followed a couple of our coaches but I bet Dykes retains him. I think hiring a recruiter at the QB spot isn't the worst idea when you have HC focused on QB development
Deboer just followed Kenny "Trill" Hill. TCU QB coach. I assume he'll take on that role here. Going to be a great recruiter, elite personality.
Christ that guy is already a QB coach? I don't give a shit how he recruits, that position coach needs to develop more than anything. That would be an odd fit here.
As if Kalen Deboer didn't turn Jake Haener into one of the best QBs in the country lmao.
Right, so bring those coaches with him.
They are? They didn't have a QB coach. He's bringing Grubb, Marks, and Moore. I don't have any info on this just reading some tea leaves
Fair enough. If we get Grubb and can replicate the Haener magic, let Kenny Trill bang coeds and close moms in living rooms.
He followed a couple of our coaches but I bet Dykes retains him. I think hiring a recruiter at the QB spot isn't the worst idea when you have HC focused on QB development
Scotty Graham, Arizona running backs coach. New running backs coach or administrative role. Also hearing Lee Marks is coming to be the running backs coach so probably administrative role.
Michigan Offensive Analyst Kyle DeVan. Could be the new oline coach or just an analyst role.
TCU qb coach Kenny Hill Jr., new qb coach.
USC Assistant Jordan Iosefa. Could be the new linebackers coach or assistant role. Inge most likely staying at Fresno.
There is a big time name that COULD be in play at DC but I can't share publicly. If it's not him it's Orlondo Steinauer.
Chili Davis could be retained as special teams coach.
Some things are nearly confirmed. Frank Maile, the Boise assistant head coach and Dline coach is our new Dline coach. Kirby Moore is the new tight ends coach. Junior Adams is being retained as WRs coach. Ryan Grubb, Fresno OC is joining, DeBoer will also call plays and Grubb could also coach oline. Donte Williams is coming to be co-dc and DB coach. Courtney Morgan is the new recruiting coordinator.
Fun portal name DeBoer is after: Andres Fox, defensive lineman portaling out of stanford, has two years eligibility left. Former alabama high school 4 star, didn't play much at Stanford. Hope we get him. DeBoer is also going to try to flip 4 star linebacker Tevarua Tafiti from Stanford. A one time rumored "silent commit" to Lake.
If someone has better info than me feel free to correct me.
You had me going for a second but Iosefa as LBs coach is complete bullshit. He just medically retired a few months ago and has been a student assistant this season like Latu with us. He's barely qualified to be a GA let alone a position coach.
And I still doubt the Donte smoke. Dawgman guys continue to be adamant it's not happening and as I mentioned earlier, they are pretty dialed in for UW AD news. He ain't coming.
Scotty Graham, Arizona running backs coach. New running backs coach or administrative role. Also hearing Lee Marks is coming to be the running backs coach so probably administrative role.
Michigan Offensive Analyst Kyle DeVan. Could be the new oline coach or just an analyst role.
TCU qb coach Kenny Hill Jr., new qb coach.
USC Assistant Jordan Iosefa. Could be the new linebackers coach or assistant role. Inge most likely staying at Fresno.
There is a big time name that COULD be in play at DC but I can't share publicly. If it's not him it's Orlondo Steinauer.
Chili Davis could be retained as special teams coach.
Some things are nearly confirmed. Frank Maile, the Boise assistant head coach and Dline coach is our new Dline coach. Kirby Moore is the new tight ends coach. Junior Adams is being retained as WRs coach. Ryan Grubb, Fresno OC is joining, DeBoer will also call plays and Grubb could also coach oline. Donte Williams is coming to be co-dc and DB coach. Courtney Morgan is the new recruiting coordinator.
Fun portal name DeBoer is after: Andres Fox, defensive lineman portaling out of stanford, has two years eligibility left. Former alabama high school 4 star, didn't play much at Stanford. Hope we get him. DeBoer is also going to try to flip 4 star linebacker Tevarua Tafiti from Stanford. A one time rumored "silent commit" to Lake.
If someone has better info than me feel free to correct me.
You had me going for a second but Iosefa as LBs coach is complete bullshit. He just medically retired a few months ago and has been a student assistant this season like Latu with us. He's barely qualified to be a GA let alone a position coach.
And I still doubt the Donte smoke. Dawgman guys continue to be adamant it's not happening and as I mentioned earlier, they are pretty dialed in for UW AD news. He ain't coming.
Idk what his role would be I just heard he could be coming here. Probably assistant
Scotty Graham, Arizona running backs coach. New running backs coach or administrative role. Also hearing Lee Marks is coming to be the running backs coach so probably administrative role.
Michigan Offensive Analyst Kyle DeVan. Could be the new oline coach or just an analyst role.
TCU qb coach Kenny Hill Jr., new qb coach.
USC Assistant Jordan Iosefa. Could be the new linebackers coach or assistant role. Inge most likely staying at Fresno.
There is a big time name that COULD be in play at DC but I can't share publicly. If it's not him it's Orlondo Steinauer.
Chili Davis could be retained as special teams coach.
Some things are nearly confirmed. Frank Maile, the Boise assistant head coach and Dline coach is our new Dline coach. Kirby Moore is the new tight ends coach. Junior Adams is being retained as WRs coach. Ryan Grubb, Fresno OC is joining, DeBoer will also call plays and Grubb could also coach oline. Donte Williams is coming to be co-dc and DB coach. Courtney Morgan is the new recruiting coordinator.
Fun portal name DeBoer is after: Andres Fox, defensive lineman portaling out of stanford, has two years eligibility left. Former alabama high school 4 star, didn't play much at Stanford. Hope we get him. DeBoer is also going to try to flip 4 star linebacker Tevarua Tafiti from Stanford. A one time rumored "silent commit" to Lake.
If someone has better info than me feel free to correct me.
Scotty Graham, Arizona running backs coach. New running backs coach or administrative role. Also hearing Lee Marks is coming to be the running backs coach so probably administrative role.
Michigan Offensive Analyst Kyle DeVan. Could be the new oline coach or just an analyst role.
TCU qb coach Kenny Hill Jr., new qb coach.
USC Assistant Jordan Iosefa. Could be the new linebackers coach or assistant role. Inge most likely staying at Fresno.
There is a big time name that COULD be in play at DC but I can't share publicly. If it's not him it's Orlondo Steinauer.
Chili Davis could be retained as special teams coach.
Some things are nearly confirmed. Frank Maile, the Boise assistant head coach and Dline coach is our new Dline coach. Kirby Moore is the new tight ends coach. Junior Adams is being retained as WRs coach. Ryan Grubb, Fresno OC is joining, DeBoer will also call plays and Grubb could also coach oline. Donte Williams is coming to be co-dc and DB coach. Courtney Morgan is the new recruiting coordinator.
Fun portal name DeBoer is after: Andres Fox, defensive lineman portaling out of stanford, has two years eligibility left. Former alabama high school 4 star, didn't play much at Stanford. Hope we get him. DeBoer is also going to try to flip 4 star linebacker Tevarua Tafiti from Stanford. A one time rumored "silent commit" to Lake.
If someone has better info than me feel free to correct me.
Honest question, at what point as a mercenary recruiter does your message stop having an impact/easy to be picked apart?
If Donte Williams comes here, everyone knows he'll be gone in 1.5 seasons to the next highest bidder.
I'm not the greatest salesman on the planet but I'd probably bring a laminated chart of this going head to head with Dante for any recruits:
Every move he has made was considered a move up. Until he becomes an actual dc it probably doesn’t make the most sense to move on.
That said if he does leave oh well. You hire another secondary coach.
No offense, but this sounds like excuse making bullshit. Every move was a move up? 2019, he’s at Oregon, they just won the pack 12 and the Rose Bowl. So he leaves for USC where everybody knows that Clay Helton is on his way out and the whole staff is going to get fired? That doesn’t sound like much of a move up to me.
And leaving from Nebraska to Oregon? Nebraska had just hired one of the hottest coaching names in the country, Scott Frost. Oregon had just hired a complete unknown assistant coach, Mario Cristobal. A guy who had been fired from his only previous head-coaching job. At the time, if you were choosing which of those two was more likely to be successful long-term, it would’ve been Frost. That also doesn’t sound like a real step up to me.
Finally, even if you excuse those decisions by saying he got paid more at each stop, the question remains: if he was so vital, why didn’t the previous staff’s or the new staffs offer him enough to keep him? Look at us. We’re talking about liking the job Adams has done so much we want to keep him. And we may have liked Malloe enough to offer him a chance to stay. When Lake was getting interest in better jobs we upped his $$, gave him a new job/title. Yet it seems none of these coaches thought Williams was worth matching the offer. Makes you wonder.
Honest question, at what point as a mercenary recruiter does your message stop having an impact/easy to be picked apart?
If Donte Williams comes here, everyone knows he'll be gone in 1.5 seasons to the next highest bidder.
I'm not the greatest salesman on the planet but I'd probably bring a laminated chart of this going head to head with Dante for any recruits:
Every move he has made was considered a move up. Until he becomes an actual dc it probably doesn’t make the most sense to move on.
That said if he does leave oh well. You hire another secondary coach.
No offense, but this sounds like excuse making bullshit. Every move was a move up? 2019, he’s at Oregon, they just won the pack 12 and the Rose Bowl. So he leaves for USC where everybody knows that Clay Helton is on his way out and the whole staff is going to get fired? That doesn’t sound like much of a move up to me.
And leaving from Nebraska to Oregon? Nebraska had just hired one of the hottest coaching names in the country, Scott Frost. Oregon had just hired a complete unknown assistant coach, Mario Cristobal. A guy who had been fired from his only previous head-coaching job. At the time, if you were choosing which of those two was more likely to be successful long-term, it would’ve been Frost. That also doesn’t sound like a real step up to me.
Finally, even if you excuse those decisions by saying he got paid more at each stop, the question remains: if he was so vital, why didn’t the previous staff’s or the new staffs offer him enough to keep him? Look at us. We’re talking about liking the job Adams has done so much we want to keep him. And we may have liked Malloe enough to offer him a chance to stay. When Lake was getting interest in better jobs we upped his $$, gave him a new job/title. Yet it seems none of these coaches thought Williams was worth matching the offer. Makes you wonder.
Scotty Graham, Arizona running backs coach. New running backs coach or administrative role. Also hearing Lee Marks is coming to be the running backs coach so probably administrative role.
Michigan Offensive Analyst Kyle DeVan. Could be the new oline coach or just an analyst role.
TCU qb coach Kenny Hill Jr., new qb coach.
USC Assistant Jordan Iosefa. Could be the new linebackers coach or assistant role. Inge most likely staying at Fresno.
There is a big time name that COULD be in play at DC but I can't share publicly. If it's not him it's Orlondo Steinauer.
Chili Davis could be retained as special teams coach.
Some things are nearly confirmed. Frank Maile, the Boise assistant head coach and Dline coach is our new Dline coach. Kirby Moore is the new tight ends coach. Junior Adams is being retained as WRs coach. Ryan Grubb, Fresno OC is joining, DeBoer will also call plays and Grubb could also coach oline. Donte Williams is coming to be co-dc and DB coach. Courtney Morgan is the new recruiting coordinator.
Fun portal name DeBoer is after: Andres Fox, defensive lineman portaling out of stanford, has two years eligibility left. Former alabama high school 4 star, didn't play much at Stanford. Hope we get him. DeBoer is also going to try to flip 4 star linebacker Tevarua Tafiti from Stanford. A one time rumored "silent commit" to Lake.
If someone has better info than me feel free to correct me.
What about Thomas FSP Ford? How will DeBoer surviv?
Spoadie! Oh my god, I feel like the adults in "It" who had kinda forgot all about that demonic clown and suddenly it all comes rushing back!
But also, who the fuck is Donte Williams? Has he ever actually coached anybody that could play? You'll pardon me if I don't doog out about becoming USC of the last 10 years, signing great recruits and watching them turn into 5th-round draft picks. I remember Bill Simmons's basketball book wherein he argued that if a guy considered great was really so great, why was he fucking traded? Same question: if having Donte Williams is so great, why can't he seem to stay on a staff for more than a year or two? Arizona, 1 year. Nebraska, 1 yr. Oregon, 2 yrs. All in the same role. USC, 2 years. And don't tell he left because he was getting better offers. If he was so great, the school would've paid what it took to keep him.
Bill Parcells, the smartest man of our age, said it best: don't tell me about the labor, show me the baby.
Ok. Would you rather have Will Harris or Bob Gregory on staff?
Honest question, at what point as a mercenary recruiter does your message stop having an impact/easy to be picked apart?
If Donte Williams comes here, everyone knows he'll be gone in 1.5 seasons to the next highest bidder.
I'm not the greatest salesman on the planet but I'd probably bring a laminated chart of this going head to head with Dante for any recruits:
Every move he has made was considered a move up. Until he becomes an actual dc it probably doesn’t make the most sense to move on.
That said if he does leave oh well. You hire another secondary coach.
No offense, but this sounds like excuse making bullshit. Every move was a move up? 2019, he’s at Oregon, they just won the pack 12 and the Rose Bowl. So he leaves for USC where everybody knows that Clay Helton is on his way out and the whole staff is going to get fired? That doesn’t sound like much of a move up to me.
And leaving from Nebraska to Oregon? Nebraska had just hired one of the hottest coaching names in the country, Scott Frost. Oregon had just hired a complete unknown assistant coach, Mario Cristobal. A guy who had been fired from his only previous head-coaching job. At the time, if you were choosing which of those two was more likely to be successful long-term, it would’ve been Frost. That also doesn’t sound like a real step up to me.
Finally, even if you excuse those decisions by saying he got paid more at each stop, the question remains: if he was so vital, why didn’t the previous staff’s or the new staffs offer him enough to keep him? Look at us. We’re talking about liking the job Adams has done so much we want to keep him. And we may have liked Malloe enough to offer him a chance to stay. When Lake was getting interest in better jobs we upped his $$, gave him a new job/title. Yet it seems none of these coaches thought Williams was worth matching the offer. Makes you wonder.
Riley gets fired in 2017 and Donte goes to Oregon before Frost is hired, and Oregon gives him a bump in pay. USC gets killed for their lackluster recruiting class in 2019 but can't afford to buy out Clay. Knowing that Donte is the best recruiter by far on the West Coast, their AD offers over a million per year to be their DB coach making him the highest paid non-coordinator in all of football. Along with his father being sick (he's from LA), that makes it an easy decision to leave. Top recruiters move all the time because everybody wants them; the fact that he's so desirable and big-time programs want him should speak to his track record.
Honest question, at what point as a mercenary recruiter does your message stop having an impact/easy to be picked apart?
If Donte Williams comes here, everyone knows he'll be gone in 1.5 seasons to the next highest bidder.
I'm not the greatest salesman on the planet but I'd probably bring a laminated chart of this going head to head with Dante for any recruits:
There is a real argument that if you can’t develop, it doesn’t matter. I want him at UW, but am not as gung ho about it as many here.
Its fine to have one or two recruiting specialists on your grumpy old man development focused coaching staff but if your staff is a bunch of mercenary recruiters you are just going to end up with a team of overhyped 4 star goo that sucks.
Its far easier to build a support system so a great development coach can recruit than it is to turn a great recruiter into a good development coach.
It all starts and finishes with the head coach. If DeBoer is a great coach he will squeeze every ounce of development out of the mercenaries and have enough developers to make sure the team isn’t a soft batch of goo. If Pete coaches Sarks staff from 2014-19 he’s getting more results from the same group of guys. Even Ivan and his explosive ACL training would have had a turnaround in results.
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And I still doubt the Donte smoke. Dawgman guys continue to be adamant it's not happening and as I mentioned earlier, they are pretty dialed in for UW AD news. He ain't coming.
If Donte Williams comes here, everyone knows he'll be gone in 1.5 seasons to the next highest bidder.
I'm not the greatest salesman on the planet but I'd probably bring a laminated chart of this going head to head with Dante for any recruits:
That said if he does leave oh well. You hire another secondary coach.
And leaving from Nebraska to Oregon? Nebraska had just hired one of the hottest coaching names in the country, Scott Frost. Oregon had just hired a complete unknown assistant coach, Mario Cristobal. A guy who had been fired from his only previous head-coaching job. At the time, if you were choosing which of those two was more likely to be successful long-term, it would’ve been Frost. That also doesn’t sound like a real step up to me.
Finally, even if you excuse those decisions by saying he got paid more at each stop, the question remains: if he was so vital, why didn’t the previous staff’s or the new staffs offer him enough to keep him? Look at us. We’re talking about liking the job Adams has done so much we want to keep him. And we may have liked Malloe enough to offer him a chance to stay. When Lake was getting interest in better jobs we upped his $$, gave him a new job/title. Yet it seems none of these coaches thought Williams was worth matching the offer. Makes you wonder.
Its far easier to build a support system so a great development coach can recruit than it is to turn a great recruiter into a good development coach.
recruiting only matters if you can develop it.