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White supremacist on the stand now

SFGbob
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,112
    Why would they risk that? Grosskreutz or whatever his name is ended the prosecution’s case. The fucking trial was over. Putting Kyle on the stand has zero upside, and only potential to let the prosecution back in the game. I’m no lawyer, but that seems fucking stupid.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Why would they risk that? Grosskreutz or whatever his name is ended the prosecution’s case. The fucking trial was over. Putting Kyle on the stand has zero upside, and only potential to let the prosecution back in the game. I’m no lawyer, but that seems fucking stupid.

    It's a bad move.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Only reason is to show his humanity and counter the monster WS image that the media has created.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    46XiJCAB said:

    Only reason is to show his humanity and counter the monster WS image that the media has created.

    They had already done that for the jury without putting him on the stand.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Kid shouldn't have to be going through this.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.

    All out there. Just sum it up in closing. Kyle makes some out of context statement, like I don't support BLM or All Lives Matter and you give the jury a bone that he had it coming. Seems hard to see though how you get a unanimous jury to convict. There is no way the state wants a retrial. Like I said, the judge needs to step up and give a directed verdict.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited November 2021
    This seems insanely stupid. You've won, why risk this?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    This trial is like the 0 to 0 Oregon Oregon State game

    Or


  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.

    All out there. Just sum it up in closing. Kyle makes some out of context statement, like I don't support BLM or All Lives Matter and you give the jury a bone that he had it coming. Seems hard to see though how you get a unanimous jury to convict. There is no way the state wants a retrial. Like I said, the judge needs to step up and give a directed verdict.
    I agree. Why has the judge not just thrown this out with prejudice and said "the prosecution did not prove the elements of the case/" Probably political pressure is all I can assume.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034
    edited November 2021
    Stupid to put him on the stand but he is very thoughtful and articulate.

    ISAFNRC.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Judge has had to jump prosecution twice already regarding their questioning. Yes it’s a gamble to put him on the stand.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2021

    Stupid to put him on the stand but he is very thoughtful and articulate.

    ISAFNRC.

    For a 18 year old kid he is a good witness.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.

    All out there. Just sum it up in closing. Kyle makes some out of context statement, like I don't support BLM or All Lives Matter and you give the jury a bone that he had it coming. Seems hard to see though how you get a unanimous jury to convict. There is no way the state wants a retrial. Like I said, the judge needs to step up and give a directed verdict.
    I agree. Why has the judge not just thrown this out with prejudice and said "the prosecution did not prove the elements of the case/" Probably political pressure is all I can assume.
    Tough to get your mind around this that grown men who ostensibly got a law degree and passed the bar and fully understand the elements of self-defense all agree that Rittenhouse is guilty of two murders and an attempted murder and should go to jail for the rest of his life. Then toss in that the entire MSM agrees and I've heard no defense of Kyle from any leftard anywhere - from the US Congress to any leftard here on the shed. Just don't call this a political show trial, however. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Have you heard any GOP defend him?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034
    Swaye said:

    SFGbob said:

    Stupid to put him on the stand but he is very thoughtful and articulate.

    ISAFNRC.

    For a 18 year old kid he is a good witness.
    Calm cool and collected just like when he was dropping Antifa attackers.
    That kid is going to get laid so much in the next few months.

    Hopefully by hot right wing chicks, not as a prison bitch.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    This prosecutor is an idiot. A bunch of nonsense questions that the answers are obvious. He didn’t use deadly force to protect property. He stated that clearly.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.

    All out there. Just sum it up in closing. Kyle makes some out of context statement, like I don't support BLM or All Lives Matter and you give the jury a bone that he had it coming. Seems hard to see though how you get a unanimous jury to convict. There is no way the state wants a retrial. Like I said, the judge needs to step up and give a directed verdict.
    I agree. Why has the judge not just thrown this out with prejudice and said "the prosecution did not prove the elements of the case/" Probably political pressure is all I can assume.
    Tough to get your mind around this that grown men who ostensibly got a law degree and passed the bar and fully understand the elements of self-defense all agree that Rittenhouse is guilty of two murders and an attempted murder and should go to jail for the rest of his life. Then toss in that the entire MSM agrees and I've heard no defense of Kyle from any leftard anywhere - from the US Congress to any leftard here on the shed. Just don't call this a political show trial, however. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    I try very hard to not go down the banana republic path but anyone with half a brain can watch the videos and deduce within 5 minutes this is clearly self defense. Now, maybe there is a chargeable gun crime (I'm not sure as previously mentioned), or some other child welfare statute, so fine, whatever. But murder or manslaughter is absurd. This is why everyone hates lawyers. They attempt to confuse obvious truths. Just like the government. "Hey, don't believe what your eyes are telling you, listen to us, we have your best interests in mind..."

    Still can't believe they put the kid on the stand.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    LOL at Judge blowing the Prosecutor up.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    With the pressure on this jury I’m not sure his attorneys can feel confident that message was received. His description is of someone being targeted by thugs intent on doing serious physical harm to him.

    All out there. Just sum it up in closing. Kyle makes some out of context statement, like I don't support BLM or All Lives Matter and you give the jury a bone that he had it coming. Seems hard to see though how you get a unanimous jury to convict. There is no way the state wants a retrial. Like I said, the judge needs to step up and give a directed verdict.
    I agree. Why has the judge not just thrown this out with prejudice and said "the prosecution did not prove the elements of the case/" Probably political pressure is all I can assume.
    Tough to get your mind around this that grown men who ostensibly got a law degree and passed the bar and fully understand the elements of self-defense all agree that Rittenhouse is guilty of two murders and an attempted murder and should go to jail for the rest of his life. Then toss in that the entire MSM agrees and I've heard no defense of Kyle from any leftard anywhere - from the US Congress to any leftard here on the shed. Just don't call this a political show trial, however. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Have you heard any GOP defend him?
    Pretty quiet, but the big conservative blogs and Tucker, the biggest noise on cable news were right on this from the start. But unlike hondo or the dazzler, I don't like to be lie and be lied to so I go get some actual news instead of fake news. The GOP pulled this same sh*t with Nick Sandmann and the Covington kids, January 6th and the fake Duke lacrosse team non-rapes. Not that there is any pattern here. At least the Duke prosecutor got disbarred. Ain't going to happen here.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited November 2021
    Muddy the waters between property protection and protecting your life. Hopefully this jury’s not filled with idiots.

    Standing in front of a business with a weapon to protect it from being looted and standing there with the intent on shooting anyone who tries, is a stretch this prosecutor hopes to make to this jury.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Muddy the waters between property protection and protecting your life. Hopefully this jury’s the filled with idiots.

    Standing in front of a business with a weapon to protect it from being looted and standing there with the intent on shooting anyone who tries, is a stretch this prosecutor hopes to make to this jury.

    Actually you want smart independent jurors on this one. It's not a tobacco trial where you do want idiots stuffed with a wad of feelings. Hard to make the stretch when Kyle was putting out fires started by some of the people who were chasing him and threatening with death. Ignoring that is idiotic. Why go to law school and then decide you want to be an embarrassing buffon in front of the nation. Have to ask the dazzler about that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,715 Standard Supporter
    The prosecution acting like lawless assclowns probably won't sit well with the jury either.

    No reason to put Kyle on the stand. None.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    The prosecution acting like lawless assclowns probably won't sit well with the jury either.

    No reason to put Kyle on the stand. None.

    The Judge is absolutely furious at this prosecutor holy shit.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Jury removed. Prosecutor getting his ass handed to him by judge for presenting info that had been ruled inadmissible before trial. Defense attorney called the whole line “ridiculous”.

    How many times is this Judge going to warn this assclown prosecutor before he ends this farce.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Is it a crime to guard property even if the business owner doesn’t ask you to?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    So KR needed to abide by the curfew but not the rioters. He BROKE a curfew LAW! Okay I agree bad move by defense attorney because he just opened this thing up to minutiae BS that has no bearing on what actually happened.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,798 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Is it a crime to guard property even if the business owner doesn’t ask you to?

    HE CROSSED STATE LINES
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Is it a crime to guard property even if the business owner doesn’t ask you to?

    HE CROSSED STATE LINES
    LIFE W/O parole or 90 days in the electric chair.