Jimmy's keeping Donovan
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It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally. -
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I still support Jimmy but I'm a fan
I thought continuity was good but I'm a fan
Jen is the AD. She made the call. She was wrong
Its her job and she needs to pay with it
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I hear that, 100%. Yeah I never thought he would be this bad, I like I think many on here were hoping the same on the recruiting front.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
Your point is taken in that context. I was asking the question hoping that it wasn't a finger pointing exercise of division.
Basketball and football are both disasters by any measure. That in and of itself always should mean you need a new AD at any college worth a shit at all. (I guess that last part is up for debate). -
The counter to that is, did OU and tOSU conduct national searches prior to promoting Riley and Day? I could probably find out but I recall it was a pretty swift change at both schools. The difference obviously is those guys were OCs and I did have some slight concern that promoting a defensive minded coach in today's CFB would be a mistake. However, I had no idea Jimmy's vision for an effective offense would be this shit show we have right now.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally. -
The biggest issue with this is those guys were longer tenured and more successful as coordinators than Lake was, and they didn’t have the architect of their system on staff holding their hands.insinceredawg said:
The counter to that is, did OU and tOSU conduct national searches prior to promoting Riley and Day? I could probably find out but I recall it was a pretty swift change at both schools. The difference obviously is those guys were OCs and I did have some slight concern that promoting a defensive minded coach in today's CFB would be a mistake. However, I had no idea Jimmy's vision for an effective offense would be this shit show we have right now.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
Jimmy was only a coordinator for two seasons, one was mediocre and it was the more recent one.
He was not in Riley/Days class as a coordinator. -
Good points. I'm not defending Cohen at all and being in her position she should have performed the due diligence. From a fan's perspective it made a ton of sense on paper. Dig a little deeper though and you'll see Lake's experience in coaching prior to hitching his wagon to CP was dubious at best. He was the DBs coach for some god awful teams including the 1-10 2004 Gilby UW team and the 0-16 2008 Detroit Lions team.dnc said:
The biggest issue with this is those guys were longer tenured and more successful as coordinators than Lake was, and they didn’t have the architect of their system on staff holding their hands.insinceredawg said:
The counter to that is, did OU and tOSU conduct national searches prior to promoting Riley and Day? I could probably find out but I recall it was a pretty swift change at both schools. The difference obviously is those guys were OCs and I did have some slight concern that promoting a defensive minded coach in today's CFB would be a mistake. However, I had no idea Jimmy's vision for an effective offense would be this shit show we have right now.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
Jimmy was only a coordinator for two seasons, one was mediocre and it was the more recent one.
He was not in Riley/Days class as a coordinator. -
I didn’t love it myself, but the dooging is strong with me and I convince myself every year why we should be good.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.






