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Willie is very fast on the twitter block. He hears itTequilla said:
People have been on Will Harris for a long time nowdnc said:
The biggest red flag virtually everyone ignored is Will Harris.RoadDawg55 said:
Those guys took over units that needed improvement and improved them to the best in the country. Jimmy took over a loaded defense and made them slightly worse.dnc said:
The biggest issue with this is those guys were longer tenured and more successful as coordinators than Lake was, and they didn’t have the architect of their system on staff holding their hands.insinceredawg said:
The counter to that is, did OU and tOSU conduct national searches prior to promoting Riley and Day? I could probably find out but I recall it was a pretty swift change at both schools. The difference obviously is those guys were OCs and I did have some slight concern that promoting a defensive minded coach in today's CFB would be a mistake. However, I had no idea Jimmy's vision for an effective offense would be this shit show we have right now.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
Jimmy was only a coordinator for two seasons, one was mediocre and it was the more recent one.
He was not in Riley/Days class as a coordinator.
Jimmy would land on his feet with a good college DC job, maybe even a pro one. He’s a pretty good football coach. What he is not, is a head coach. He sucks at that. His hiring has been horrible, the recruiting is horrible, and most importantly, his record shows he sucks.
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Yes but few saw him as a warning about Lakes inability to hire assistants.Tequilla said:
People have been on Will Harris for a long time nowdnc said:
The biggest red flag virtually everyone ignored is Will Harris.RoadDawg55 said:
Those guys took over units that needed improvement and improved them to the best in the country. Jimmy took over a loaded defense and made them slightly worse.dnc said:
The biggest issue with this is those guys were longer tenured and more successful as coordinators than Lake was, and they didn’t have the architect of their system on staff holding their hands.insinceredawg said:
The counter to that is, did OU and tOSU conduct national searches prior to promoting Riley and Day? I could probably find out but I recall it was a pretty swift change at both schools. The difference obviously is those guys were OCs and I did have some slight concern that promoting a defensive minded coach in today's CFB would be a mistake. However, I had no idea Jimmy's vision for an effective offense would be this shit show we have right now.dnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
Jimmy was only a coordinator for two seasons, one was mediocre and it was the more recent one.
He was not in Riley/Days class as a coordinator.
Jimmy would land on his feet with a good college DC job, maybe even a pro one. He’s a pretty good football coach. What he is not, is a head coach. He sucks at that. His hiring has been horrible, the recruiting is horrible, and most importantly, his record shows he sucks.
I guarantee that was a Jimmy hire and he’s been worthless since day one. -
Good point and I thought he was a good OC hire away from having a good staff. But then:
1. He hires the RB coach of the shitty Jags to be his OC
2. The 2021 class closed with a wimper
3. Kwat leaves and he was the brains behind the D plus also helped Malloe out with the DL.
4. He promotes Bobby Gregory to DC rather than find a better DC who can also recruit.
5. Lake hires internally to promote a grad assistant to coach the DL.
6. Rumors circulate that Kwat couldn't stand Jimmy Lake and hated working for him.
7. The 2021 class gets off to a weak start and 4 players de-commit, with Jon Wilner pointing out the trouble brewing in August of 2021.
8. Lake loses to Montana.
9. Lake loses to Oregon State a month later and with many of the same deficiencies plaguing the team.
10. He stands by his shitty OC hire going into a bye week when it is blindingly obvious to everyone that JonDon's offense goes major stretches stalling, which tires out the D.
11. No up and coming coach would want to join this sinking ship should Smug Lake happen to keep his job so he'd be stuck with the same crappy coordinators who can't recruit. That's not exactly a recipe for success in competing for top West Coast recruits, including those from WA. -
Has this been legitimately reported anywhere? IIRC it was all hyper read between the lines without a lot of substance.HFNY said:
6. Rumors circulate that Kwat couldn't stand Jimmy Lake and hated working for him. -
Plagiarism my shit, fucko?Quietcowskee said: -
History doesn’t repeat itself but it rhymes.PurpleBaze said:
Plagiarism my shit, fucko?Quietcowskee said:
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I’ve always hated that she cried when Pete left. It was an ominous sign to me.Tequilla said:
The problem with Jen hiring Jimmy isn’t that she hired Jimmy IMOdnc said:
It matters because the implication is "no one could have seen this coming" which lets Jen off the hook and I disagree massively with that. I won't lie and say I thought Jimmy would be this bad (I thought he'd at least recruit decently) but I hated the hire at the time and feel my reasoning was solid. It's fine if a bunch of homer message bored poasters look past all that because they're excited about a change. It's not fine if the person in charge of the AD uses that same blind homer reasoning.gmo said:Why does it matter if people were on board with the Jimmy hire when it happened?
After plenty of evidence he's very clearly a disaster really on all fronts.
Jen fucked this up. Royally.
It’s that I guarantee she didn’t ever consider that Pete would step down or leave like he did (which in his position is 81% chicken shit to give really no notice just gone) so therefore she didn’t have a list made up of what her options were.
If she did and Jimmy was the top of the list that’s an indictment on her hiring decisions that we already know sucks ass
If she did and all her top options turned her down and Jimmy was left then so be it
But I think we know that the reality is that she was blindsided and made a rushed panicked hire in the name of continuity -
Marcus Peters was misunderstood prophet.Quietcowskee said: -
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Marcus Peters was misunderstood prophet.Quietcowskee said:
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