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  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,257 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    Kaepsknee said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Interesting article. Clearly Ivermectin has been successful in most parts of Africa that used it. But not near as effective in other parts of the world. Genetics may be a reason. Also a lack of co morbidities as well. Also how many are active smokers? As that seems to keep the covid away, at least here in Oregon.

    If given early on, both Ivermectin and Hydroxy were highly effective. Problem was the Big Pharma/NIH Conflict of Interest filled protocol that sent sick people away from ERs with Tylenol to heal themselves or die.

    If you've even attempted to inform yourself on the subject, you know this already.
    I remember when Hydro combined with the antibiotic was doing good work for those that were dosed in the first 4 days. The Governments shunned it because Trump touted it. And then New York started using it with folks that were 10 days in and lone behold, it didn’t work. Just as they knew it wouldn’t.

    Today I read the linq? and have seen that Ivermectin has been highly effective in African countries where used. But not as much in other countries.

    I’ve been looking for some type of study here, that compares those dosed with IV, with those not dosed to see a real comparison of recovery rates.
    Who would fund a generic drug study? Fauci???
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    Bob_C said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Interesting article. Clearly Ivermectin has been successful in most parts of Africa that used it. But not near as effective in other parts of the world. Genetics may be a reason. Also a lack of co morbidities as well. Also how many are active smokers? As that seems to keep the covid away, at least here in Oregon.

    If given early on, both Ivermectin and Hydroxy were highly effective. Problem was the Big Pharma/NIH Conflict of Interest filled protocol that sent sick people away from ERs with Tylenol to heal themselves or die.

    If you've even attempted to inform yourself on the subject, you know this already.
    I remember when Hydro combined with the antibiotic was doing good work for those that were dosed in the first 4 days. The Governments shunned it because Trump touted it. And then New York started using it with folks that were 10 days in and lone behold, it didn’t work. Just as they knew it wouldn’t.

    Today I read the linq? and have seen that Ivermectin has been highly effective in African countries where used. But not as much in other countries.

    I’ve been looking for some type of study here, that compares those dosed with IV, with those not dosed to see a real comparison of recovery rates.
    Who would fund a generic drug study? Fauci???
    Truth.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,527 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Interesting article. Clearly Ivermectin has been successful in most parts of Africa that used it. But not near as effective in other parts of the world. Genetics may be a reason. Also a lack of co morbidities as well. Also how many are active smokers? As that seems to keep the covid away, at least here in Oregon.

    If given early on, both Ivermectin and Hydroxy were highly effective. Problem was the Big Pharma/NIH Conflict of Interest filled protocol that sent sick people away from ERs with Tylenol to heal themselves or die.

    If you've even attempted to inform yourself on the subject, you know this already.
    I remember when Hydro combined with the antibiotic was doing good work for those that were dosed in the first 4 days. The Governments shunned it because Trump touted it. And then New York started using it with folks that were 10 days in and lone behold, it didn’t work. Just as they knew it wouldn’t.

    Today I read the linq? and have seen that Ivermectin has been highly effective in African countries where used. But not as much in other countries.

    I’ve been looking for some type of study here, that compares those dosed with IV, with those not dosed to see a real comparison of recovery rates.
    An open mind is a wonderful thing

    I don't know the answer but like you when I read that I thought it was worth looking into
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,703 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    Quercetin is an over the counter zinc ionophore with a similar action to HCQ.

    Flccc.net is where you go to learn what real doctors use.

    A little inside baseball, our nanny is now a medical student and found out all their med school faculty are on ivermectin prophylactic

    Calling it horse med is great, it’s the easiest tell that they’re trying to kill the story and it’s unifying people on both sides of the aisle.

    Health populism will not be stopped.

    A friend’s dad 75, fully vaccinated a while ago. Got covid and was declining. Started taking ivermectin and went to the hospital. Hospital refuses to let him continue taking his ivermectin series prescribed by his primary care doctor and he died.

  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Interesting article. Clearly Ivermectin has been successful in most parts of Africa that used it. But not near as effective in other parts of the world. Genetics may be a reason. Also a lack of co morbidities as well. Also how many are active smokers? As that seems to keep the covid away, at least here in Oregon.

    If given early on, both Ivermectin and Hydroxy were highly effective. Problem was the Big Pharma/NIH Conflict of Interest filled protocol that sent sick people away from ERs with Tylenol to heal themselves or die.

    If you've even attempted to inform yourself on the subject, you know this already.
    I remember when Hydro combined with the antibiotic was doing good work for those that were dosed in the first 4 days. The Governments shunned it because Trump touted it. And then New York started using it with folks that were 10 days in and lone behold, it didn’t work. Just as they knew it wouldn’t.

    Today I read the linq? and have seen that Ivermectin has been highly effective in African countries where used. But not as much in other countries.

    I’ve been looking for some type of study here, that compares those dosed with IV, with those not dosed to see a real comparison of recovery rates.
    @Kaepsknee I have the utmost respect for the fact that you are willing to have an open mind on the issue. If only @HHusky and @TheKobeStopper had your courage - I digress.

    cv19ivermectin.com

    There are 119 studies to date. 63 studies have control groups.


    co-sign @LoneStarDawg recommendation. the url he proffered auto-directs to covid19criticalcare.com which is a fantastic resource.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited September 2021
    A ton of data there that seems reliable. Some places over their skis in methodology but most seem to be legit studies. And if mostly true. IV is the most effective for early stage treatment. I’m not sure I would take it as a Prophylaxis, but it seems to be harmless when taken in appropo doses short term.

  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    A ton of data there that seems reliable. Some places over their skis in methodology but most seem to be legit studies. And if mostly true. IV is the most effective for early stage treatment. I’m not sure I would take it as a Prophylaxis, but it seems to be harmless when taken in appropo doses short term.

    There is a study out of Argentina on the prophylaxis benefits of IVM.

    Paraphrasing:
    Over 700 front line critical care medical professionals. 1 weekly dose.

    400 got IVM, the other 300+ did not

    The 400 that took IVM, not a single person contracted cv19.

    Of the 300+ that did not, 43% contracted cv19.


  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    A ton of data there that seems reliable. Some places over their skis in methodology but most seem to be legit studies. And if mostly true. IV is the most effective for early stage treatment. I’m not sure I would take it as a Prophylaxis, but it seems to be harmless when taken in appropo doses short term.

    It seems to me - NOT a doctor, I only play one on the internet - half the battle is catching it early.

    When you get in to days 7-10+, you're in trouble as CV has traveled from the mucous centers (nose & throat) to the lungs.

  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,703 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    A ton of data there that seems reliable. Some places over their skis in methodology but most seem to be legit studies. And if mostly true. IV is the most effective for early stage treatment. I’m not sure I would take it as a Prophylaxis, but it seems to be harmless when taken in appropo doses short term.

    It seems to me - NOT a doctor, I only play one on the internet - half the battle is catching it early.

    When you get in to days 7-10+, you're in trouble as CV has traveled from the mucous centers (nose & throat) to the lungs.

    Which is why telling people to sit at home until their lips are blue is exactly what you do if you want them to die
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,703 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    A ton of data there that seems reliable. Some places over their skis in methodology but most seem to be legit studies. And if mostly true. IV is the most effective for early stage treatment. I’m not sure I would take it as a Prophylaxis, but it seems to be harmless when taken in appropo doses short term.

    There is a study out of Argentina on the prophylaxis benefits of IVM.

    Paraphrasing:
    Over 700 front line critical care medical professionals. 1 weekly dose.

    400 got IVM, the other 300+ did not

    The 400 that took IVM, not a single person contracted cv19.

    Of the 300+ that did not, 43% contracted cv19.


    It was more like 700 in the treatment group and 500 in the control group.

    Of the control group 58% got covid, zero in the treatment group

    Might seem too good to be true, but why don’t we try to replicate it rather than putting out horse memes with “y’all” in it