BREAKING: Eldridge Recasner *gets it*
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RaceBannon said:
I don't care what Bernie and AOC think which is what that refers toTheKobeStopper said:
Couple of idiots
The fact that you do speaks volumes
Your concern is Blackrock's profit
Biden has Blackrock executives advising him
And they'll collect every last penny
After the Big Guy gets his 10% off the top.
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Lol. Spare bedroom? TKS doesn’t have a spare bedroom, he occupies a spare bedroom.Swaye said:
You can't be serious?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say.
Also, while I agree putting loads of people on the street sucks, why do they have more right to a property than the person who owns the property? It's a simple question. What's your solution to make the OWNERS of the property whole? Also, have you offered up your spare bedroom to a homeless person yet? What are you personally sacrificing, of YOUR OWN comfort, to fix this problem? My strong suspicion is nothing, because like most socialist dreamers it's always better when someone else's hard work and sacrifice is taken from them, to help you or your high minded ideals. -
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of. -
You have admitted regularly that you will say and or do Anything to see America overthrown.TheKobeStopper said:I don’t cherry pick anything.
There’s 8 million independent landlords. They own 24 million properties. They collect 300 billion in rent. Half of them depend on that income. There’s even cited sources in your link confirming these facts. I’m not going to not help 100 million Americans because there’s slightly less help for 4 million Americans.
I will concede that my first 3 million number was off and it’s 4 million, confirmed by your link. It was a pretty good ballpark since I didn’t have the actual numbers until you decided to get run over.
I’m sorry if this personally effects you. I remember business was booming after 2008 but maybe you should have saved a little bit more so you could handle the ups and downs of putting people on the street for income. If you need anything to help hold you over let me know, pretty much the only thing I’ve done with my money for the last year is loan it to boomers.
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Why have food at all?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say. -
This guy has a tenant that owes 24K in rent but bought a boat!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/eviction-ban-north-carolina-landlord-moratorium-rent-coronavirus -
People will grow it for freeBob_C said:
Why have food at all?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say.
That's why Bill Gates is buying all the farmland -
Dems and the Slobberer totally ignore why people can't pay rent. They were unemployed because of lockdown rules that had no long term effect on the spread of the chicom crud. Then the didn't save their unemployment checks on steroids and now want the government which caused the problem to continue to pay them not to work. Now that's commie economics 101. The Slobberer hates Trump more than hates the chicoms which caused this unforced error.Swaye said:
You can't be serious?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say.
Also, while I agree putting loads of people on the street sucks, why do they have more right to a property than the person who owns the property? It's a simple question. What's your solution to make the OWNERS of the property whole? Also, have you offered up your spare bedroom to a homeless person yet? What are you personally sacrificing, of YOUR OWN comfort, to fix this problem? My strong suspicion is nothing, because like most socialist dreamers it's always better when someone else's hard work and sacrifice is taken from them, to help you or your high minded ideals. -
On this board of bitcoin millionaires I am poor and also the most recent to face the abyss. There goes Uncle Race again
I care about people getting thrown into the street because it damn near happened to me in 2014
The first step is to see who to blame. Its you. It was me. No if ands or buts. Not the government, not my former employer, not baby boomers, not capitalism. Me
The second step is to use that to get out of the mess YOU got in to.
That which I had feared most had happened to me. My entire work career was based on a fear of failure and a fear of my family being thrown into the streets. I worked my ass off and we smoked it all leaving us in no position to handle a downturn in fortune
In debt, no income no savings and an eviction notice on the door. No enhanced UI and a 6 month hard stop on bennies. UI covered minimum payments and food. Weed, wine and cigars and even DIRECTV were gone.
But I couldn't pay the rent. Imagine being 50 plus years old and getting the rent from your brother, sister, brother in law, sister in law and then our son. LOSER
I got a job, first one I was offered, Made a payment deal with the landlord for a few months. Then owed months of penalties which I paid
Long story short that job led to a gold mine that got us out of debt, money in the bank and everyone paid back double so I wouldn't be a LOSER
All it took was 7 days a week of intense work and pressure. I kind of welcomed the lockdown. I was tired
This time around is a walk in the park. Money in the bank, Enhanced and unending UI for both of us and checks from the government. I'd be a real asshole not to pay the rent
If you care then support food banks, missions and the like. If they are on the up and up they will do far more than the gubmint in this moratorium scam
The left no longer gets to pretend they are so fucking much more moral than us. Time to put up or shut up. Your programs are a failure. -
Honest Americans are in short supply. Thank you for sharing. Glad to hear you are in a good spot and hopefully the Tug leftists read this and take a walk for perspective.RaceBannon said:On this board of bitcoin millionaires I am poor and also the most recent to face the abyss. There goes Uncle Race again
I care about people getting thrown into the street because it damn near happened to me in 2014
The first step is to see who to blame. Its you. It was me. No if ands or buts. Not the government, not my former employer, not baby boomers, not capitalism. Me
The second step is to use that to get out of the mess YOU got in to.
That which I had feared most had happened to me. My entire work career was based on a fear of failure and a fear of my family being thrown into the streets. I worked my ass off and we smoked it all leaving us in no position to handle a downturn in fortune
In debt, no income no savings and an eviction notice on the door. No enhanced UI and a 6 month hard stop on bennies. UI covered minimum payments and food. Weed, wine and cigars and even DIRECTV were gone.
But I couldn't pay the rent. Imagine being 50 plus years old and getting the rent from your brother, sister, brother in law, sister in law and then our son. LOSER
I got a job, first one I was offered, Made a payment deal with the landlord for a few months. Then owed months of penalties which I paid
Long story short that job led to a gold mine that got us out of debt, money in the bank and everyone paid back double so I wouldn't be a LOSER
All it took was 7 days a week of intense work and pressure. I kind of welcomed the lockdown. I was tired
This time around is a walk in the park. Money in the bank, Enhanced and unending UI for both of us and checks from the government. I'd be a real asshole not to pay the rent
If you care then support food banks, missions and the like. If they are on the up and up they will do far more than the gubmint in this moratorium scam
The left no longer gets to pretend they are so fucking much more moral than us. Time to put up or shut up. Your programs are a failure. -
How about providing the evidence that without this program 100 million Americans would be forced to live on the street. Now go run and hide Kunt.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American? -
Race I wasn't far behind you at one point. I had 8 rentals houses and hit a rough spot. Wasn't easy. I worked more OT worked hard at my business and busted my ass! We scrapped our way out with minimal damage but had to dump a rental at a loss due to wonderful tenants that tore the place up and didn't pay rent etc. I had to work extra to cover these people and was worried about making the mortgage on the house I lived in! Fuck them! Came back and decided to divest and dump the rentals. We made money on some lost money on others but we're in a good spot now. Reserves and good tenants in the last three. But if prices go up a bit more they will be sold!BleachedAnusDawg said:
Honest Americans are in short supply. Thank you for sharing. Glad to hear you are in a good spot and hopefully the Tug leftists read this and take a walk for perspective.RaceBannon said:On this board of bitcoin millionaires I am poor and also the most recent to face the abyss. There goes Uncle Race again
I care about people getting thrown into the street because it damn near happened to me in 2014
The first step is to see who to blame. Its you. It was me. No if ands or buts. Not the government, not my former employer, not baby boomers, not capitalism. Me
The second step is to use that to get out of the mess YOU got in to.
That which I had feared most had happened to me. My entire work career was based on a fear of failure and a fear of my family being thrown into the streets. I worked my ass off and we smoked it all leaving us in no position to handle a downturn in fortune
In debt, no income no savings and an eviction notice on the door. No enhanced UI and a 6 month hard stop on bennies. UI covered minimum payments and food. Weed, wine and cigars and even DIRECTV were gone.
But I couldn't pay the rent. Imagine being 50 plus years old and getting the rent from your brother, sister, brother in law, sister in law and then our son. LOSER
I got a job, first one I was offered, Made a payment deal with the landlord for a few months. Then owed months of penalties which I paid
Long story short that job led to a gold mine that got us out of debt, money in the bank and everyone paid back double so I wouldn't be a LOSER
All it took was 7 days a week of intense work and pressure. I kind of welcomed the lockdown. I was tired
This time around is a walk in the park. Money in the bank, Enhanced and unending UI for both of us and checks from the government. I'd be a real asshole not to pay the rent
If you care then support food banks, missions and the like. If they are on the up and up they will do far more than the gubmint in this moratorium scam
The left no longer gets to pretend they are so fucking much more moral than us. Time to put up or shut up. Your programs are a failure. -
You don't have money LMFAOTheKobeStopper said:
I’m sorry if this personally effects you. I remember business was booming after 2008 but maybe you should have saved a little bit more so you could handle the ups and downs of putting people on the street for income. If you need anything to help hold you over let me know, pretty much the only thing I’ve done with my money for the last year is loan it to boomers.
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Been thinking more about this and while I don't think the Third Amendment actually applies here, applying the Third Amendment makes more sense than some of the Constitutional leaps SCOTUS has made the past 60 years.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
Besides, when's the last tim anyone had a good Third Amendment debate?
I stand by the Third Amendment! -
If you're not a fan of landlords, then you're not a fan of private property. Instead, you're a Bolshevik Collectivist.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
Fuck Off, Commie. -
Jesus Christ! Are you allergic to work or what?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say. -
Every one who has decommodified food for some reason ends up with a starving population. But history and a basic understanding of human interactions and economics has the Slobberer feeling that this is a solution to what? In the US no one is starving to death and in fact in the US our lower income population is obese from having to much cheap food to eat. Do they need even cheaper food? Remember when all the dem leftist were slobbering over Chavez and the Venezuelan economic miracle. Now not so much, but they are doing there damndest to accomplish the same economic miracle here.TurdBomber said:
Jesus Christ! Are you allergic to work or what?TheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say. -
I see that fucking worm @GDS has returned.
Damn! I thought Covid might've rubbed him out.
Hey, @GDS: Are you ready to produce FACTS that show Tulsi Gabbard supported Assad in Syria?
It's only been what, 18 months since you blathered that drippy-cunt bullshit. Are you ever gonna man-up, you fucking worm? -
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness. -
I think the Thirteenth is more applicable.dnc said:
Been thinking more about this and while I don't think the Third Amendment actually applies here, applying the Third Amendment makes more sense than some of the Constitutional leaps SCOTUS has made the past 60 years.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
Besides, when's the last tim anyone had a good Third Amendment debate?
I stand by the Third Amendment! -
So how does free housing for everyone work in your model?TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
Coercion is the government telling a landlord he doesn't own his property. Freedom is being able to earn enough to buy rent or live where your efforts allow
Your idea of freedom is strange to say the least
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MikeDamone said:
The state in charge of food has worked out beautifully around the globe. “ Bread lines are good, that means they have bread” - Bearnie SandersTheKobeStopper said:
Decommodify food too.MikeDamone said:
Now do grocery stores.TheKobeStopper said:13. The Average Landlord Has Three Properties
Great link. Yes, I think we should be willing to protect 100 million Americans from living on the street over the average landlord that owns three properties. (probably not counting the fourth where they live)
You can call whatever you want mom and pop. I’d consider it someone that owns one rental property and relies on it for income. Maybe owns two in certain circumstances. Simply diy landlords pull in $300 billion in rent. “Mom and Pop” my ass.
Do I even need to quote the point where their average income is 50% higher than the average American?
You’re an absolute dumbfuck and a communist. Full stop. As Gavin Newsome likes to say.
Your greed and willingness to steal other people’s labor is noted.
Yes, yes a number you pulled squarely out of your ass is very "meaningful."TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness. -
So I can move into your house, tell you I've decided I need it more than you and have no money to pay you, and that's cool? I'm not expecting an answer. It's obvious there is no need to discuss this further. You dig socialism. I get it.TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness. -
It’s not coercion, it’s the way Economics works. Goods and services provided in exchange for money. No one is coerced to rent someone’s house.TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness. -
Only in @TheKobStopper's world is keeping your word and honoring your promises considered "coercion."TheKobeStopper said:I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
And he wonders why he's a loser. -
TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
He has no idea what freedom is. He advocates for government violence to be used against people he disagrees with.RaceBannon said:
So how does free housing for everyone work in your model?TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
Coercion is the government telling a landlord he doesn't own his property. Freedom is being able to earn enough to buy rent or live where your efforts allow
Your idea of freedom is strange to say the least -
The TKS argument is worse than communism. At least communism is fair in that everyone gets fucked, not just those that try to earn their keep
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So you can charge people to live and make sure they pay by threatening them with homelessness and that’s cool?Swaye said:
So I can move into your house, tell you I've decided I need it more than you and have no money to pay you, and that's cool? I'm not expecting an answer. It's obvious there is no need to discuss this further. You dig socialism. I get it.TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
I don’t think the eviction moratorium is a good situation. I’d love to solve it but muh freedom to coerce people. -
Like all leftists Kobe feels like he has an entitlement to the labor of others.TheKobeStopper said:
So you can charge people to live and make sure they pay by threatening them with homelessness and that’s cool?Swaye said:
So I can move into your house, tell you I've decided I need it more than you and have no money to pay you, and that's cool? I'm not expecting an answer. It's obvious there is no need to discuss this further. You dig socialism. I get it.TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
I don’t think the eviction moratorium is a good situation. I’d love to solve it but muh freedom to coerce people. -
Yes, that's exactly the point. It's called quid pro quo. You get to live in the house I own, provided you pay for it. Why should I have to subsidize someone's living situation? Oh they lost their job you say? Good thing they have unemployment and a stimulus. And if that doesn't cut it, they probably were overreaching to begin with.TheKobeStopper said:
So you can charge people to live and make sure they pay by threatening them with homelessness and that’s cool?Swaye said:
So I can move into your house, tell you I've decided I need it more than you and have no money to pay you, and that's cool? I'm not expecting an answer. It's obvious there is no need to discuss this further. You dig socialism. I get it.TheKobeStopper said:
You said you can’t do one without the other. I think the 100 million number is meaningful because it’s about political will. Even if you shrink it down to people at risk, that doesn’t make the numbers look better for landlords.dnc said:
There aren't anywhere near 100 million Americans who can't reasonably pay their rent, that number is meaningless.TheKobeStopper said:@dnc a q?
Can you tell me how many Americans live in rental properties and how many mom and pop single property, reliant on that income, owners there are?
That’s why you can have one without the other. It’s 100 million to maybe 3 million. As much as I’m not a fan of landlords, I don’t want those 3 million to suffer. Thankfully, there have been ways, and there continues to be ways, for them to get help.
Make sure you don’t think things are unfair because you identify more with the group getting less help. It’s about harm reduction, that’s all we want.
There's no reason virtually anyone should still be unable to pay rent baring disability, in which case there is other assistance available for them. Everywhere in the world is hiring right now. Vaccines have been free and widely distributed for months. There has been massive government assistance from stimuli to tax credits.
I have been on both ends of this having lived in multiple apartments and spare bedrooms. I've also had to kick my brother out of my house. It sucked, I was physically sick over it for days before and afterwards. I am not zealous to have a bunch of people put out of their homes. I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent, and when you take that motivator away you are asking people to take advantage of the system.
Bottom line, the government doesn't have the right to force people to continue letting someone live on their property for free. The CDC for sure doesn't even have anything close to that right.
All this is leading to is further corporatization of the housing industry which I'm shocked you are in support of.
I don’t care who the landlord is and, honestly, you explained why.
I do think eviction is a great motivator for following through with your commitment to pay rent
That’s not freedom, it’s coercion. I don’t see any difference between the corporations taking your money under threat of homelessness and the “little guy” taking your money under the threat of homelessness.
I don’t think the eviction moratorium is a good situation. I’d love to solve it but muh freedom to coerce people.
It's obvious you aren't a fan of accountability, but at some point we should stop punishing people that have their shit together.