Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
My 'limited' view: My grandmother is from there. I grew up learning about the culture. I have only been there a few times and had a chance to talk to people about what people in America get wrong about it, but I can assure you it's mostly the lefties that are mistaken about Norway.
Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
My grandmother is from there. I have only been there a few times and had a chance to talk to people about what people in America get wrong about it, but I can assure you it's mostly the lefties that are mistaken about Norway.
I'm not a lefty. I've been there and was scheduled to be headed there again before the pandemic.
I'm a product of the great Norwegian exodus of the 19th Century on Mom's side.
Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
My grandmother is from there. I have only been there a few times and had a chance to talk to people about what people in America get wrong about it, but I can assure you it's mostly the lefties that are mistaken about Norway.
I'm not a lefty. I've been there and was scheduled to be headed there again before the pandemic.
I'm a product of the great Norwegian exodus of the 19th Century on Mom's side.
Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
My grandmother is from there. I have only been there a few times and had a chance to talk to people about what people in America get wrong about it, but I can assure you it's mostly the lefties that are mistaken about Norway.
I'm not a lefty. I've been there and was scheduled to be headed there again before the pandemic.
I'm a product of the great Norwegian exodus of the 19th Century on Mom's side.
You'll love the high sales taxes. My main point is that dipshits like Bernie or Paul Krugman say we should 'be more like country x'. In some cases, sure. But most of the time they're clueless about the tradeoffs or the reason why some country like that does things in a certain way.
Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
My grandmother is from there. I have only been there a few times and had a chance to talk to people about what people in America get wrong about it, but I can assure you it's mostly the lefties that are mistaken about Norway.
I'm not a lefty. I've been there and was scheduled to be headed there again before the pandemic.
I'm a product of the great Norwegian exodus of the 19th Century on Mom's side.
Does this mean that if a black person shows up to vote, they're asked 'who are you voting for?' and if they say 'republicans, of course!' they're allowed to vote without ID?
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
1) What is additional effort? Asking all adults to have an ID? That’s pretty much common sense given the need to have IDs for any number of things.
2) What isn’t a problem? It’s pretty standard in polling that around 80% of the population supports IDs to vote. Moreover, if you have a large segment of the population (regardless of the side) that doesn’t have full faith and confidence in the election process, that’s a problem.
A Democrat if they are so confident in their messaging, positioning, and support by the people should have no issue in ensuring fully transparent elections that are full of “controls” to ensure one vote per person, that the person voting is that person, etc
But the reality is that the Democrats aren’t as confident as they want you to believe because they know that all the votes that vanish when you execute an election properly disproportionately impacts their vote totals
The populations disproportionately affected tend to vote Democrat. That is the sole motivation behind the Voter ID requirements enacted in the past 20 years.
Bullshit. Here are a few other countries that require ID to vote Norway Germany Israel Mexico Iceland
Do you think people living in those countries are 100% white? I don't know how anyone can get away with this nonsense any longer. Whatever news sources you are consuming that are filling you with this garbage, you need to stop listening to them and think a little bit.
I've now said repeatedly that it wasn't racially motivated.
A guy who can't take Yes for an answer is gonna have trouble getting laid.
We’re trying to point out that there is no evil intent in the requirement for voter id.
The subject was also the US of A. But Norway! Awesome
No, the subject is requiring id to vote. And Norway is awesome.
Norway is awesome. I think if your goal is for the US to be more like Norway, many of us would agree.
Great, so voter id is ok then.
You have an awfully limited view of what makes Norway awesome. I'm sure many of us would give in to you on the issue in exchange for some of the other things that make Norway awesome.
You don't usually hold Norway up as what we should aspire to, but I'm happy to see you're making (slow) progress.
Finally admitted: @HHusky wants to live among almost exclusively white people.
It makes absolutely zero sense to me why voter IDs are controversial if you truly believe in the concept of a fair and open election decided by the people
The reason people don’t view IDs as being free is because there obviously is a nominal cost tied to getting a drivers license. If there truly is a prohibitive cost to that (which I don’t necessarily agree with), I’m sure the problem can be readily solved by getting an ID that isn’t cost prohibitive
There’s always an excuse that someone uses when they really don’t want something to happen
Imagine putting anyone to any additional effort in order to solve a nonexistent problem.
What could the motive POSSIBLY be? Just a mystery, ain’t it?
I guess the motive is a mystery, but 36 states require it. Racism?
Absolutely not.
I already addressed that.
So what is the nefarious motive that 36 states want some form of ID to vote?
The preference that Democrats vote in smaller numbers.
So are you saying that black people are too helpless and stupid to obtain an ID, or are you saying that democrats are too helpless and stupid to obtain an ID?
Because you’ve basically presented the case that, in your mind, it has to be one of the other.
What a bizarre argument to pursue.
Is this where you pivot back to, “it’s a racist solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”?
Because, if that’s where you want to head, I’ll agree to the latter of the two original propositions.
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I'm a product of the great Norwegian exodus of the 19th Century on Mom's side.
My main point is that dipshits like Bernie or Paul Krugman say we should 'be more like country x'. In some cases, sure. But most of the time they're clueless about the tradeoffs or the reason why some country like that does things in a certain way.
VIKINGS!!!!
Because you’ve basically presented the case that, in your mind, it has to be one of the other.
What a bizarre argument to pursue.
Is this where you pivot back to, “it’s a racist solution to a problem that doesn’t exist”?
Because, if that’s where you want to head, I’ll agree to the latter of the two original propositions.
This is me calling you stupid, btw.