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New Peer reviewed study: Masks provide zero benefit, may cause premature death

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,210 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    The study is being debunked all over the place. Fouchee did originally say on 60 minutes masks are pointless.

    Who is debunking it?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    BangaRang said:

    All you have to read is the difference between the diameter of the virus body and the thread diameter of medical and non medical facemasks. Been saying that forever. Virus passes right through.

    Cue Price Is Right loser music

    Most masks also have nose gaps and a lot of outgoing air isn't even "filtered" by the cloth. A properly fitted N95 mask would give some protection but you hardly ever see one. The latest (could change in a week) CDC finding is that you need 15 minutes of exposure. So, if you were sitting inside a church or a basketball game you might get that exposure. But wandering around Costco, you aren't going to get the 15 minutes.
    One of my kids works in healthcare and they've been following a "15 minute mask rule" for almost a year.

    Same kid tested positive once and experienced 48 hours of mild cold symptoms before returning to normal.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter

    BangaRang said:

    All you have to read is the difference between the diameter of the virus body and the thread diameter of medical and non medical facemasks. Been saying that forever. Virus passes right through.

    Cue Price Is Right loser music

    Most masks also have nose gaps and a lot of outgoing air isn't even "filtered" by the cloth. A properly fitted N95 mask would give some protection but you hardly ever see one. The latest (could change in a week) CDC finding is that you need 15 minutes of exposure. So, if you were sitting inside a church or a basketball game you might get that exposure. But wandering around Costco, you aren't going to get the 15 minutes.
    One of my kids works in healthcare and they've been following a "15 minute mask rule" for almost a year.

    Same kid tested positive once and experienced 48 hours of mild cold symptoms before returning to normal.
    I owned a company where we had masks of every level of protection right up to environmental suits with compressed clean air. Masks don't work. The virus is about 1/10 the size of a particle of dust. N95's are tinker toys and were our everyday masks for dry mixed/blended chemistry. Pull them off at the end of the day after working with powdered clay and there is white all the way up your nose and around your nasal cavities. Pull over masks people wear around their necks? 100% useless. Cheap blue surgical masks? Garbage. Face shields? LOL!

    I have yet to see one mask on one person that does not have gaps on the top, bottom and around the nose. Even if the different woven masks were tight around all orifices' the virus is so small it just travels through the masks. Followers like HH believe in the masks, just let him go. He believes whatever his leaders tell him.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club

    BangaRang said:

    All you have to read is the difference between the diameter of the virus body and the thread diameter of medical and non medical facemasks. Been saying that forever. Virus passes right through.

    Cue Price Is Right loser music

    Most masks also have nose gaps and a lot of outgoing air isn't even "filtered" by the cloth. A properly fitted N95 mask would give some protection but you hardly ever see one. The latest (could change in a week) CDC finding is that you need 15 minutes of exposure. So, if you were sitting inside a church or a basketball game you might get that exposure. But wandering around Costco, you aren't going to get the 15 minutes.
    One of my kids works in healthcare and they've been following a "15 minute mask rule" for almost a year.

    Same kid tested positive once and experienced 48 hours of mild cold symptoms before returning to normal.
    I owned a company where we had masks of every level of protection right up to environmental suits with compressed clean air. Masks don't work. The virus is about 1/10 the size of a particle of dust. N95's are tinker toys and were our everyday masks for dry mixed/blended chemistry. Pull them off at the end of the day after working with powdered clay and there is white all the way up your nose and around your nasal cavities. Pull over masks people wear around their necks? 100% useless. Cheap blue surgical masks? Garbage. Face shields? LOL!

    I have yet to see one mask on one person that does not have gaps on the top, bottom and around the nose. Even if the different woven masks were tight around all orifices' the virus is so small it just travels through the masks. Followers like HH believe in the masks, just let him go. He believes whatever his leaders tell him.
    Inslee said that masks didn’t work for the fires last year.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,752 Standard Supporter
    Hmm lab employees at Wuhan wear space suits but caught it but your cotton fabric magic mask will save you?

    The Chinese released the virus on the world. No doubt about that. It was an act of war.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    BangaRang said:

    All you have to read is the difference between the diameter of the virus body and the thread diameter of medical and non medical facemasks. Been saying that forever. Virus passes right through.

    Cue Price Is Right loser music

    Most masks also have nose gaps and a lot of outgoing air isn't even "filtered" by the cloth. A properly fitted N95 mask would give some protection but you hardly ever see one. The latest (could change in a week) CDC finding is that you need 15 minutes of exposure. So, if you were sitting inside a church or a basketball game you might get that exposure. But wandering around Costco, you aren't going to get the 15 minutes.
    One of my kids works in healthcare and they've been following a "15 minute mask rule" for almost a year.

    Same kid tested positive once and experienced 48 hours of mild cold symptoms before returning to normal.
    I owned a company where we had masks of every level of protection right up to environmental suits with compressed clean air. Masks don't work. The virus is about 1/10 the size of a particle of dust. N95's are tinker toys and were our everyday masks for dry mixed/blended chemistry. Pull them off at the end of the day after working with powdered clay and there is white all the way up your nose and around your nasal cavities. Pull over masks people wear around their necks? 100% useless. Cheap blue surgical masks? Garbage. Face shields? LOL!

    I have yet to see one mask on one person that does not have gaps on the top, bottom and around the nose. Even if the different woven masks were tight around all orifices' the virus is so small it just travels through the masks. Followers like HH believe in the masks, just let him go. He believes whatever his leaders tell him.
    Every thing you say is true, and masks don't guarantee or even significantly affect exposures and transmissions. But they can slow down transmissions and reduce viral loads in some situations, so they aren't completely worthless. But the false sense of security and confidence people place in masks was ridiculous, given "the science." And that may have led many people to believe they were safer than they were, especially those condescending mother fuckers who ask "where's your mask?" Reply: "You mean my virus droplet concentration rag?"

    It's as if nobody ever watched how raindrops formed in elementary school. But that's a whole other topic.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,878 Founders Club

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

    Kobe's love of peer reviewed science
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The idea of needing to wear masks while exercising is the one that gets me ... let's do something that restricts air flow and oxygen levels when your body needs oxygen the most.

    If you want me to wear a mask for symbolic reasons for like 5-10 minutes then whatever ...

    You want me to wear one while I'm sitting watching practice at Husky Stadium, I'm not exerting myself so whatever ...

    I can't imagine having to wear one full time while working a full 8-10 hour day
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.

    Even a broken clock is right 2x a day ... and even an idiot is right from time to time.

    Blindly assuming that something someone says or thinks is wrong because you don't like them is the definition of fucktarded

    As always, take evidence, think critically, form your own opinions.

    Why do so many people require other people to think for them?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club

    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.

    Seriously?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.

    Johnny come lately comes out for masks because tRUmP iS AgAInsT ThEm
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.


    Blindly assuming that something someone says or thinks is wrong because you don't like them is the definition of fucktarded

    Which isn't what I wrote... try harder.

    Different scientists don't agree.

    But if Trump is against them (and his dick suckers here)... then for now... I'm for them.

    I realize the above concepts might be challenging to the typical Trump fan, but try hard to rise above the rest of your ilk.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,878 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.


    Blindly assuming that something someone says or thinks is wrong because you don't like them is the definition of fucktarded

    Which isn't what I wrote... try harder.

    Different scientists don't agree.

    But if Trump is against them (and his dick suckers here)... then for now... I'm for them.

    I realize the above concepts might be challenging to the typical Trump fan, but try hard to rise above the rest of your ilk.
    Biden is president now

    Thank a racist like yourself
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.


    Blindly assuming that something someone says or thinks is wrong because you don't like them is the definition of fucktarded

    Which isn't what I wrote... try harder.

    Different scientists don't agree.

    But if Trump is against them (and his dick suckers here)... then for now... I'm for them.

    I realize the above concepts might be challenging to the typical Trump fan, but try hard to rise above the rest of your ilk.
    Biden is president now

    Indeed. Most thinking Americans are thankful every single day.

    Trump was the worst president this nation has had in the last 100 years.

    He even made W look smart -- which isn't easy.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    doogie said:

    @TheKobeStopper, @insinceredawg, @HHusky, @EwaDawg, @MelloDawg Can you refute this science? It seems to contradict Dr Fauci.

    Did you hear about the peer-reviewed study done by Stanford University that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that face masks have absolutely zero chance of preventing the spread of Covid-19? No? It was posted on the the National Center for Biotechnological Information government website. The NCBI is a branch of the National Institute for Health, so one would think such a study would be widely reported by mainstream media and embraced by the “science-loving” folks in Big Tech


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

    I don't think this article means what you think it means.

    Also, scientists don't always agree, which is why the hash it out with studies. Some says masks are helpful, some say they are not.

    Who knows.

    At one point in time in the 20th century, nearly all scientists thought we'd never walk on the moon.

    One thing is certain though. If a dumbfuck like Trump is against masks, and all of his dick suckers here are too... then for now... I'm for masks.


    Blindly assuming that something someone says or thinks is wrong because you don't like them is the definition of fucktarded

    Which isn't what I wrote... try harder.

    Different scientists don't agree.

    But if Trump is against them (and his dick suckers here)... then for now... I'm for them.

    I realize the above concepts might be challenging to the typical Trump fan, but try hard to rise above the rest of your ilk.
    I'm far from a Trump fan ... dude has some major flaws and issues ... also got some things right as well ... important to be fair and balanced

    I know you didn't write that ... but your implication is "do the opposite" of what someone (and others) you clearly disagree with on principal ... so now you know why I wrote what I wrote.

    I've got no problem wearing my mask, being symbolic, etc.

    Basic science leaves me dubious that they are the solution that some want you to believe that they are ...

    I'll continue to adapt my life to avoiding unnecessary interactions until I'm at the point of being fully vaccinated

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited April 2021

    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.

    That’s sounds amazing but is utterly untrue. The only studies that show masks do anything are studies of N95 masks worn by people trained not to touch them while wearing them...and still then they are only marginally beneficial. The idea all these cloth masks people take on and off all the time are scientifically proven to do anything is both fraudulent and idiotic, and if you can’t look at a world-wide set of data the last year and question this nonexistent “scientific” consensus you don’t have critical thinking bone in your body.

    Or as the WHO...”acknowledges that we lack evidence that wearing a mask protects healthy persons from SARS-CoV-2.”

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.

    That’s sounds amazing but is utterly untrue. The only studies that show masks do anything are studies of N95 masks worn by people trained not to touch them while wearing them...and still then they are only marginally beneficial. The idea all these cloth masks people take on and off all the time are scientifically proven to do anything is both fraudulent and idiotic, and if you can’t look at a world-wide set of data the last year and question this nonexistent “scientific” consensus you don’t have critical thinking bone in your body.

    Or as the WHO...”acknowledges that we lack evidence that wearing a mask protects healthy persons from SARS-CoV-2.”

    I wonder if people thought about masks being advised to help the general public alleviate fears about carrying out routine everyday tasks?

    Problem is that the doubling down on masks has been to the point where people then go one step further and have treated masks as these magical devices to keep them safe from COVID
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.

    That’s sounds amazing but is utterly untrue. The only studies that show masks do anything are studies of N95 masks worn by people trained not to touch them while wearing them...and still then they are only marginally beneficial. The idea all these cloth masks people take on and off all the time are scientifically proven to do anything is both fraudulent and idiotic, and if you can’t look at a world-wide set of data the last year and question this nonexistent “scientific” consensus you don’t have critical thinking bone in your body.

    Or as the WHO...”acknowledges that we lack evidence that wearing a mask protects healthy persons from SARS-CoV-2.”

    I wonder if people thought about masks being advised to help the general public alleviate fears about carrying out routine everyday tasks?

    Problem is that the doubling down on masks has been to the point where people then go one step further and have treated masks as these magical devices to keep them safe from COVID
    Masks aren't the worst part. It's the smug arrogance and ignorance shown by many attention-seeking mask addicts who think they're doing something heroic.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    Tequilla said:

    That’s a great post by me. The complete lack of sense of humor on the right is your own problem.

    Plenty of studies have shown masks work. The one that’s been debunked for lying about masks poisoning you and rambles on about how dehumanizing it is, doesn’t deserve a serious response.

    That’s sounds amazing but is utterly untrue. The only studies that show masks do anything are studies of N95 masks worn by people trained not to touch them while wearing them...and still then they are only marginally beneficial. The idea all these cloth masks people take on and off all the time are scientifically proven to do anything is both fraudulent and idiotic, and if you can’t look at a world-wide set of data the last year and question this nonexistent “scientific” consensus you don’t have critical thinking bone in your body.

    Or as the WHO...”acknowledges that we lack evidence that wearing a mask protects healthy persons from SARS-CoV-2.”

    I wonder if people thought about masks being advised to help the general public alleviate fears about carrying out routine everyday tasks?

    Problem is that the doubling down on masks has been to the point where people then go one step further and have treated masks as these magical devices to keep them safe from COVID
    Masks aren't the worst part. It's the smug arrogance and ignorance shown by many attention-seeking mask addicts who think they're doing something heroic.
    Smug arrogance and ignorance you say?

    Ironic.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Do you notice that “Kindness” is demanded to flow one way and is based on emotion rather than Science?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    How about we make a deal? The masks work cult can have their victory and we wear them indoors where required. In exchange, a little self awareness on their part: End the lockdowns, and wearing masks outside and having to sanitize everything is also recognized as being bad advice.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    you want to negotiate with fascists?