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Rand Paul Confronts Biden's Transgender Health Nominee About "Genital Mutilation"

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,506 Founders Club
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club
    edited February 2021
    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    TheKobeStopper said:

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    This is about not elevating mental illness to a protected class status.
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  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited February 2021
    TheKobeStopper said:

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    Are you a trans faggot? Seems like you know a lot about it since you’re promoting the “findings” of a group known for pedophilia.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    RaceBannon said:

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Yes, if you're a mentally ill adult and you want to cut your own junk off have at it, but you sure as fuck don't get to do it on my dime which is what the bill the House just passed would allow for.
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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    SFGbob said:

    How the fuck did we ever get to this point in our society? Genital mutilation of minors is now acceptable behavior.

    Not accepted.

    Encouraged and supported.

    The correct term is "affirmed," you TransPhobe.

    You are so not woke!

    Which means you don't need intense psychiatric therapy.

    Fascist!
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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    TurdBomber said:

    Total and complete mockery of the confirmation process by the robotic nominee who spewed nothing but prepared talking points that provided absolutely no responses to any questions.

    And I'm sure all the Democratic sheep will vote for this TransClown, without hesitation.

    Because Joe Biden's America is Queer as Fuck.

    So happy we got rid of that mean orange man.

    Merrick Garland didn't have an opinion if crossing the border illegally was illegal

    Pathetic
    Merrick Garland has removed any doubt that he is completely unqualified to sit on the Supreme Court.

    I'm glad that spineless jellyfish has finally gone through a confirmation process, so the world can see how unprincipled he is.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    edited February 2021
    RaceBannon said:

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,856 Standard Supporter
    TheKobeStopper said:

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    So your mom's gave it to you. Explains everything!
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    TurdBomber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    You have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about. "Associated with" is what liars say when they can't establish causation.

    Perhaps its time for you to STFU and stop spewing bullshit. Hormone blockers ARE NOT routinely "used on kids" the way these freaks advocate their use.

    What's more, nobody is equating hormone blockers and genital mutilation except you, Moron.

    Rand Paul was talking about removing body parts, you thick-headed mutant. That's what "amputate" means, Blockhead.
    You have to be 18 to get the surgery. So if you can’t get the surgery as a minor and you’re not taking about hormone blockers then what the fuck are you talking about.

    Give me every single example ever of minors getting sex changes.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    edited February 2021
    TheKobeStopper said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirmation surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    No one is claiming hormone blockers mutilate people but please continue, that strawman isn't going to rape his own ass.

    And supporting giving kids hormone blockers from the same crowd who freaks out when there are hormones in cow's milk is a nice touch. These are the very same people who freaked out when Trump suggested that adults take HCQ despite the fact that it had been prescribed for over 50 years. But now they want to give kids hormone blockers when there is very little if any long term research on their possible negative effects.

    Normal people don't allow perfectly healthy 12 year old's to take hormone blockers and normal people don't look like this fucking freak.


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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,562
    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,712 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021
    Long term use of hormone blockers does cause damage - if the gender dysphoria person later stops the transition and changes their mind - which happens frequently - there is irreparable damage. There really is not a good long term study

    Also - in Oregon the age is 15 for the surgery without parental approval- and there are numerous court cases on-going.

    The science for this is again not a proven but a consensus, the head guy at Johns Hopkins a few years ago is adamant that this should be treated as mental illness. He is conservative so the liberal doctors/press have debunked anything he says. progress is what you might calll it?

    Psychiatry is a science that should not cause surgery because of feelings and social pressure. IF there was an epidemic of transgenderism you think it would appear in all humans not just certain societies. The only acceptance of transgenders is when it is force fed to the population by the government.

    Edit: if some screwed up adult wants to go through this - more power to them - but leave the kids alone

    Edit2: Johns Hopkins doctor is Paul McHugh
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