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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    4th Generation Nuclear plants consume their own waste on-site, thereby reducing the net generated waste footprint to zero.

    But you have to read above a 4th grade level to know this, APAG.
    Oh wow, so cool. Where are these 4th gen plants in use?
    If you could read, you'd already know the answer.

    In the same vein, where is a major city powered only by wind and solar, APAG?
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    Kobe taking it to the twatters? Must have forgot to take his midol.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Tequilla said:

    If you’re going to try to come after me on Twitter ... get your fucking facts straight

    Absolutely NOTHING that you accuse me of is even remotely close to accurate

    Guy is a complete lying piece of shit. What makes him worse is what a fucking coward he is. He'll smear you with his lies and when you call him on it and ask him to back up his mouth with some evidence that you ever said what he claims you said, he runs and hides like a Kunt.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,244
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    LebamDawg said:

    I am not a weather specialist nor do I claim to know anything about the detailed content of the atmosphere and how each element affects the weather. How much do humans impact the weather/climate is all a mystery to me.

    What I disagree with is "a consensus of" being the determining factor in totally changing our? economy. Joining in with the Paris Accords that set guide lines that cost the US and does nothing to the other nations that join but do nothing that the accord outlined.

    Follow the money and the actual estimates of the impact these changes would make. It is more like trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.

    Climate change is not a proven science it is a best guess. Too many politicians world wide are making too much money off this science

    What are you talking about? If 97% isn't a consensus then you need to be forced onto a train.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,883
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    You mean like all the semen swallowers of Black Lives Matter who never got past the trademarked slogan and actually read that Marxist group’s manifesto and the felons behind it?

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,934
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    But I hear Chinese solar panels are cheap, easy to install, get you tax credits, and can power your car to go 11 miles after half a day in the sun.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,861
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    No scientist has ever said how much man contributes to climate change. Is it 50? Okay, then I'll bike more. If it's two percent, fuck off. I'm not going to take it that seriously until someone does.

    Kobeslobber and other SJWs just ignore and deflect.
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    We aren’t not dealing with the fact, we think it’s laughably stupid. Hey guys, did you know a meteor caused the climate to change 12,000 years ago therefore humans can’t cause climate change?

    The air quality changed long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t change the quality of the air.

    Earthquakes happened long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t cause earthquake.

    You’re educationally sub-normal.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    We aren’t not dealing with the fact, we think it’s laughably stupid. Hey guys, did you know a meteor caused the climate to change 12,000 years ago therefore humans can’t cause climate change?

    The air quality changed long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t change the quality of the air.

    Earthquakes happened long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t cause earthquake.

    You’re educationally sub-normal.
    You should post this on Twitter
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,449
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    We aren’t not dealing with the fact, we think it’s laughably stupid. Hey guys, did you know a meteor caused the climate to change 12,000 years ago therefore humans can’t cause climate change?

    The air quality changed long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t change the quality of the air.

    Earthquakes happened long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t cause earthquake.

    You’re educationally sub-normal.
    This was a stupid post

    Do better

    If you want to off several billion people and destroy the quality of life for those left you are going to have to prove your bullshit not deflect from it

    The planet is billions of years old and humans aren't

    Prove your theories of how much climate change humans have caused and what your remedies will actually do

    Meanwhile I will enjoy my AC as usual

    The burden of proof is on you and the ten year clock is ticking fast.

    Pro tip for your cult - never put an end date on it. Plenty of Elmer Gantry types made that same mistake
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    We aren’t not dealing with the fact, we think it’s laughably stupid. Hey guys, did you know a meteor caused the climate to change 12,000 years ago therefore humans can’t cause climate change?

    The air quality changed long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t change the quality of the air.

    Earthquakes happened long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t cause earthquake.

    You’re educationally sub-normal.
    This was a stupid post

    Do better

    If you want to off several billion people and destroy the quality of life for those left you are going to have to prove your bullshit not deflect from it

    The planet is billions of years old and humans aren't

    Prove your theories of how much climate change humans have caused and what your remedies will actually do

    Meanwhile I will enjoy my AC as usual

    The burden of proof is on you and the ten year clock is ticking fast.

    Pro tip for your cult - never put an end date on it. Plenty of Elmer Gantry types made that same mistake
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/amp

    However, the science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the warming observed since 1950

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/climate-explained-how-much-of-climate-change-is-natural-how-much-is-man-made-123604

    For nearly all climate scientists, the case is proven that humans are the overwhelming cause of the long-term changes in the climate that we are observing. And that this case should be closed.

    https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/10-myths-about-climate-change

    Over the course of the Earth’s 4.5-billion-year history, the climate has changed a lot. This is true. But the rapid warming we’re seeing now can't be explained by natural cycles of warming and cooling. The kind of changes that would normally happen over hundreds of thousands of years are happening in decades.

    You wanted to tussle, we tussled.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    One thing that I think is important in any discussion is to leverage the past to inform us in the future ... but ultimately what I care about is what we do today forward and not about assign blame about the events of the past

    The reason? I can’t change what HAS happened ... I can only change what CAN happen going forward
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,968
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    I’m no denier of what caused what, frankly don’t really care. What I’m skeptical of is how big of a deal it actually is based on the proposed remedies. If it was truly the end of the world, then you need to strip the racial equity part out of the GND out immediately as it’s not relevant. It takes away any credibility from the climate portion of it.

    If it was the existential threat you say it is, then we should be at war with China already over their non actions. Get them on board with an actual equal bilateral treaty before actual change is made and current jobs are cut and I’m willing to talk. Cutting off your own balls without China doing the same is going to be a disaster economically and eventually environmentally as they’ll continue to grow faster and gain market share with such a huge advantage.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    Tequilla said:

    One thing that I think is important in any discussion is to leverage the past to inform us in the future ... but ultimately what I care about is what we do today forward and not about assign blame about the events of the past

    The reason? I can’t change what HAS happened ... I can only change what CAN happen going forward

    Reject the 1619 Project at your peril. Equity says flip the script.

    No improvements or refinements necessary. That's just your whiteness talking.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    Bob_C said:

    I’m no denier of what caused what, frankly don’t really care. What I’m skeptical of is how big of a deal it actually is based on the proposed remedies. If it was truly the end of the world, then you need to strip the racial equity part out of the GND out immediately as it’s not relevant. It takes away any credibility from the climate portion of it.

    If it was the existential threat you say it is, then we should be at war with China already over their non actions. Get them on board with an actual equal bilateral treaty before actual change is made and current jobs are cut and I’m willing to talk. Cutting off your own balls without China doing the same is going to be a disaster economically and eventually environmentally as they’ll continue to grow faster and gain market share with such a huge advantage.

    Without the Trojan Horse of Equity, the GND is DOA.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,449
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    I don't hear anyone seriously denying outright that climate change exists. What I see is nuance, legitimate questions as to causation and proportion of it that is caused by human activity, etc.

    What I also see daily is the complete laziness of people like APAG who have not read the Green New Deal and do not understand how little it actually addresses climate change, versus how chock full of race-baiting and divisive bullshit it is, under the guise of equity, as though the white man is the root cause of any and all forms of pollution, climate change, environmental destruction and exploitation, and therefore must be dethroned and replaced by BIPOC people who's spiritual connection to the Earth is superior in every way, which will rightfully lead humanity back to the agrarian, organic, utopian world where people can return to mass starvation, diseases like polio and malaria, and all those other organic trappings that created such a perfect harmonious world before whitey came along and ruined it all.

    Posted this dozens of times. 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Happened many times in the past. Now it isn't. Not one leftard wants to deal with this most basic fact. Human CO2 emissions had nothing to do with it. Just like asking a leftard how much should the US spend on reducing CO2 emissions and what will it accomplish. Toss in the non-serious proposed solutions, none of which entail nukes or shipping US LNG to Asia. Case closed.
    We aren’t not dealing with the fact, we think it’s laughably stupid. Hey guys, did you know a meteor caused the climate to change 12,000 years ago therefore humans can’t cause climate change?

    The air quality changed long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t change the quality of the air.

    Earthquakes happened long before humans existed, therefore, humans can’t cause earthquake.

    You’re educationally sub-normal.
    This was a stupid post

    Do better

    If you want to off several billion people and destroy the quality of life for those left you are going to have to prove your bullshit not deflect from it

    The planet is billions of years old and humans aren't

    Prove your theories of how much climate change humans have caused and what your remedies will actually do

    Meanwhile I will enjoy my AC as usual

    The burden of proof is on you and the ten year clock is ticking fast.

    Pro tip for your cult - never put an end date on it. Plenty of Elmer Gantry types made that same mistake
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/amp

    However, the science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the warming observed since 1950

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/climate-explained-how-much-of-climate-change-is-natural-how-much-is-man-made-123604

    For nearly all climate scientists, the case is proven that humans are the overwhelming cause of the long-term changes in the climate that we are observing. And that this case should be closed.

    https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/10-myths-about-climate-change

    Over the course of the Earth’s 4.5-billion-year history, the climate has changed a lot. This is true. But the rapid warming we’re seeing now can't be explained by natural cycles of warming and cooling. The kind of changes that would normally happen over hundreds of thousands of years are happening in decades.

    You wanted to tussle, we tussled.
    I'm interested in your opinion and thoughts not a bunch of linked malarkey that doesn't address anything I wrote
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,934
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    A mile of ice. Then no ice. Seems like a lot of warming. Romans were growing wine grapes in England once upon a time. Once upon a time Greenland was green. Then it wasn't and they all died or fled. I blame the internal combustion engine.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Tequilla said:

    One thing that I think is important in any discussion is to leverage the past to inform us in the future ... but ultimately what I care about is what we do today forward and not about assign blame about the events of the past

    The reason? I can’t change what HAS happened ... I can only change what CAN happen going forward

    Reject the 1619 Project at your peril. Equity says flip the script.

    No improvements or refinements necessary. That's just your whiteness talking.
    Nothing I do today changes what happened over the last 400 years ...

    I’m all about solving problems ...

    As with any problem, you have to want to solve the problem to actually solve the problem ... is this country really ready to address problems and come together as one?
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