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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    And @TheKobeStopper apologies for using “Bitch” in the thread title ...

    I was pretty pissed in the moment (still not happy) about you taking things out of context and reacting on a different medium (which you shouldn’t do) and reacted emotionally (which I try to avoid)

    Please accept my sincere apologies

    I didn’t intentionally take it out of context. You must know the guys here would 100% make that argument. I went with it because it stood out to me, like god damn even Tequilla believes this shit. But I was wrong, so sorry I called you a dumb fuck.

    I don’t really get the problem with taking things to another medium part but I won’t do it to you since you so strenuously object to it.
    It’s really because people take things out of context and we live in a society where people are trying to play Gotcha

    I really do try to see both sides of arguments and over the years have found more patience for listening

    I’m aware of how some people here interpret things but I also think it’s important to not lump people together and stereotype as well ... don’t get anywhere by doing that

    I’m definitely open to people reaching out and asking me something and will respond ... I’m not very thrilled though when people try to put me on blast particularly when not asking me about something directly first
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    I always find it amusing that you never hear anybody talk about global warming in times likes these

    That’s you ^^^^

    How did I misrepresent what you said?

    It’s called sarcasm

    When heat related events take place (notably hurricanes) ... everybody is really quick to point out the link between the event and temperature

    Yet when really abnormal events swing the other way there’s never a recognition that things swing the other way as well

    My point is that what bothers me most about climate change advocates is that they cherry pick events to their narrative ... it’s off putting

    You want to show evidence that the effects of climate change results in greater volatility in weather ... I’m listening

    You want to talk about observable data that we need to address ... I’m open to talking about how that is done

    But I will always be critical of those that selectively use data to advance a pre-determined conclusion
    Wait what? I think the primary term has changed from “global warming” to “climate change” for this exact reason. These extreme weather events aren’t always just warm weather events. And I think climate change activists are using this cold snap as evidence for their agenda, not dismissing it and being quiet about it.

    I think the bigger issue is that people just can’t grasp the concept of small sample sizes. Just because the average temp is increasing over time doesn’t mean we can’t still have extreme cold snaps like this occasionally as well.
    Small sample size is the point

    The planet is billions of years old

    Oh and the climate changes. No shit

    Let's start a religion
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072

    Tequilla said:

    I always find it amusing that you never hear anybody talk about global warming in times likes these

    That’s you ^^^^

    How did I misrepresent what you said?

    It’s called sarcasm

    When heat related events take place (notably hurricanes) ... everybody is really quick to point out the link between the event and temperature

    Yet when really abnormal events swing the other way there’s never a recognition that things swing the other way as well

    My point is that what bothers me most about climate change advocates is that they cherry pick events to their narrative ... it’s off putting

    You want to show evidence that the effects of climate change results in greater volatility in weather ... I’m listening

    You want to talk about observable data that we need to address ... I’m open to talking about how that is done

    But I will always be critical of those that selectively use data to advance a pre-determined conclusion
    Wait what? I think the primary term has changed from “global warming” to “climate change” for this exact reason. These extreme weather events aren’t always just warm weather events. And I think climate change activists are using this cold snap as evidence for their agenda, not dismissing it and being quiet about it.

    I think the bigger issue is that people just can’t grasp the concept of small sample sizes. Just because the average temp is increasing over time doesn’t mean we can’t still have extreme cold snaps like this occasionally as well.
    Small sample size is the point

    The planet is billions of years old

    Oh and the climate changes. No shit

    Let's start a religion
    It's snowed yesterday.

    Trump's fault.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021
    Climate change is a thing.
    Man-made climate change is a thing.

    To what degree we have an effect one way or the other is highly debatable, and weather =/= climate.

    I’m not convinced that we need to take drastic measures to prevent any kind of global catastrophe in the near term, and climate activists really hurt their own cause with with the ridiculous and opportunistic fear mongering, but I am convinced that clean energy is a worthwhile endeavour to pursue, mainly because it’s difficult to argue that pollution has a negative affect on our species and those that we share the planet with.

    All that said, the US has done a relatively good job over the last decade of reducing carbon emissions, and there’s room for further improvement, as the creation of markets continues to take shape along the supply/demand curve.

    We aren’t too* far away from real competition with fossil fuels, as price continues to come down, but we aren’t there yet, and we probably aren’t nearly as close as people like TKS would like to dream. To that end, it makes zero sense to cut our own noses off by doing things like cancel job-producing projects like Keystone XL, which only serve to weaken our economic position in the existing dominant global energy market of O/G.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    I am not a weather specialist nor do I claim to know anything about the detailed content of the atmosphere and how each element affects the weather. How much do humans impact the weather/climate is all a mystery to me.

    What I disagree with is "a consensus of" being the determining factor in totally changing our? economy. Joining in with the Paris Accords that set guide lines that cost the US and does nothing to the other nations that join but do nothing that the accord outlined.

    Follow the money and the actual estimates of the impact these changes would make. It is more like trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.

    Climate change is not a proven science it is a best guess. Too many politicians world wide are making too much money off this science
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,678 Founders Club
    Kobe, why no nuclear?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    It’s not on his Cheat Sheet
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?


  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,036 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021
    Anyone who supports the GND is not a futurist. They are a Luddite.

    Almost every CO2 fossil fuel can be engineered to burn longer and cleaner, reducing their CO2 output and contribution to the Greenhouse Effect.

    We will never get rid of fossil fuels as long as China, Russia, and India exist.

    Effective policies focus on conservation, reduced consumption and higher efficiency and yields.

    Idiots and only idiots dream of zero emission policies, which do nothing but ruin people's lives, increase suffering, foist increased energy costs upon lower classes, and fail at spectacular rates to hit their targets.

    Those stupid "we believe in science" yard signs are parodies, pseudo intellectual, and cult-membership signals, nothing more.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,036 Standard Supporter
    LebamDawg said:

    I am not a weather specialist nor do I claim to know anything about the detailed content of the atmosphere and how each element affects the weather. How much do humans impact the weather/climate is all a mystery to me.

    What I disagree with is "a consensus of" being the determining factor in totally changing our? economy. Joining in with the Paris Accords that set guide lines that cost the US and does nothing to the other nations that join but do nothing that the accord outlined.

    Follow the money and the actual estimates of the impact these changes would make. It is more like trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.

    Climate change is not a proven science it is a best guess. Too many politicians world wide are making too much money off this science

    Paris Accords? Paris can't even get drugs out of the Tour de France, for fuck sake. The corruption in Europe is as bad as anything Nike does in the U.S.

    Fuck Europe and Fuck Nike.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited February 2021

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    Does that mean you're finally going to get one?

    A job, that is.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    There is no perfect. You are on the edge of reason and understanding. Don't stop now. Keep going

    Carbon is the best and you can't prove it isn't

    If you are advocating bullshit solutions that leave people freezing you need to make your case. My case has been made. By science. Nothing is more efficient than carbon> Nothing


    Its a little thing we like to call science
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    There is no perfect. You are on the edge of reason and understanding. Don't stop now. Keep going

    Carbon is the best and you can't prove it isn't

    If you are advocating bullshit solutions that leave people freezing you need to make your case. My case has been made. By science. Nothing is more efficient than carbon> Nothing


    Its a little thing we like to call science
    I, personally, don’t view battery disposal as equally bad as destroying the planet. But, hey, efficiency!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    There is no perfect. You are on the edge of reason and understanding. Don't stop now. Keep going

    Carbon is the best and you can't prove it isn't

    If you are advocating bullshit solutions that leave people freezing you need to make your case. My case has been made. By science. Nothing is more efficient than carbon> Nothing


    Its a little thing we like to call science
    I, personally, don’t view battery disposal as equally bad as destroying the planet. But, hey, efficiency!
    Destroying the planet

    Or to put it another way support 7 billion people in the highest standard of living in recorded human history

    This is why you people can't be trusted to be in charge

    By the way we are down to about 7 years now according to your cult leader. What difference does it make?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    People I know in Canada and England would say fuck off.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,036 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    Yet another "Trump's a Nazi" hoax, swallowed whole by APAG.

    Hint: Repeating dumb lies reflects poorly upon you, APAG. HTH
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,036 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    There is no perfect. You are on the edge of reason and understanding. Don't stop now. Keep going

    Carbon is the best and you can't prove it isn't

    If you are advocating bullshit solutions that leave people freezing you need to make your case. My case has been made. By science. Nothing is more efficient than carbon> Nothing


    Its a little thing we like to call science
    I, personally, don’t view battery disposal as equally bad as destroying the planet. But, hey, efficiency!
    You have no clue where and how Lithium is mined, do you, APAG?

    And you have no clue how damaging it is to the land and water where it's mined, either.

    Google it, shill. And learn something.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    How do you dispose of the batteries and the old windmills and solar panels?

    And renewables creating more jobs is more bullshit

    Biden is killing jobs one month in.
    This is just the “universal healthcare has wait lines” trick. You haven’t proven that it’s worse, just that it’s not perfect. But there is no perfect, Race. Even in my communist utopia and Trump’s white ethno state, there would still be problems.
    There is no perfect. You are on the edge of reason and understanding. Don't stop now. Keep going

    Carbon is the best and you can't prove it isn't

    If you are advocating bullshit solutions that leave people freezing you need to make your case. My case has been made. By science. Nothing is more efficient than carbon> Nothing


    Its a little thing we like to call science
    I, personally, don’t view battery disposal as equally bad as destroying the planet. But, hey, efficiency!
    You have no clue where and how Lithium is mined, do you, APAG?

    And you have no clue how damaging it is to the land and water where it's mined, either.

    Google it, shill. And learn something.
    You guys suddenly pretending to care about things will never get old.

    Democrat in the White House? The debt!

    Renewable energy? The environment!

    You’re only fooling yourselves.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bob_C said:

    Kobe, why no nuclear?

    Renewables would create more jobs. Why would we choose to go down the path that has more serious risks, creates nuclear waste and doesn’t create enough jobs?
    4th Generation Nuclear plants consume their own waste on-site, thereby reducing the net generated waste footprint to zero.

    But you have to read above a 4th grade level to know this, APAG.
    Oh wow, so cool. Where are these 4th gen plants in use?